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   <title>BEL AMI                                                                                                                                      : Member Discussion of BEL AMI</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 02 2013 at 12:21am<br /><br />Wow! &nbsp;If you want to have a chance at an Oscar, you can't show your movie on pay-per-view BEFORE it hits the theaters? &nbsp;<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Be careful, though -- &nbsp;That also means that, if a studio knows it has a dud on their hands, all they have to do is put it on pay-per-view for a day and they can avoid qualifying for a Razzie...&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 30 2012 at 10:40am<br /><br />I'm guessing the reason why this movie doesn't qualify for Razzie noms this year is that it either was first released in 2011 or that it wasn't shown in a theater in either Los Angeles or New York? &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b><font color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>Actually, as was established in an earlier post in this very Forum discussion, BEL AMI was disqualified on an even more obscure "technicality" than when/where it was first released. It's makers permitted their film to appear on pay-per-view outlets prior to putting it in theatres, which is verboten under both AMPAS and GRAF rules. Since it's a fair bet that few people tried to sit through it other than myself (when it was on HD Net Movies) I think it's safe to say it would probably not have had much impact on Pattinson's chances at getting a 2012&nbsp;<i>Worst Actor</i> nomination... &nbsp;</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>BEL AMI                                                                                                                                      : Member Discussion of BEL AMI</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=135009">Dun-Ida</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 06 2012 at 7:07am<br /><br />This movie is definitely Razzie worthy. Here are my reasons:&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Worst Picture: The pacing of the movie seems rushed. As the movie progresses it seems to accelerate. Had this movie been a theme park ride the highest speed would have been at the very end.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Actor: Robert Pattinson is still worthy of a Razzie. He fails to get out the right emotions for his role, just like in those stupid 'Twilight' movies. This failure makes it difficult to like Pattinson's protagonist (part of me wished the female characters would strike him below the belt-line).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Supporting Actress: Uma Thurman was unconvincing as a nineteenth-century person. She sounded and acted like a time-traveller from our time.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Supporting Actor: Colm Meaney was also unsuitable for his role. His words and mannerisms did not give the impression of a person of privilege. Meaney seemed more like a factory worker pretending to be an upper-class snob.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel: As mentioned before the novel has been adapted several time before. Since it is worthy of a Worst Picture nomination it also qualifies it for this category.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Director: Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod did a poor job of putting together this movie, especially its pacing.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Screenplay: Rachel Bennette's script was dull and that is putting it lightly.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Screen Couple: The main cast have been miscast. So any combination of them is worthy of a nomination, especially with alleged vampire Robert Pattinson.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Worst Screen Ensemble: As with the previous category the miscast actors make the group deserving of getting nominated.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 22 2012 at 10:38am<br /><br /><a href="http://rogerebert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120620/REVIEWS/120629995" target="_blank"><b>Roger Ebert </b>gave it 2 stars out of 4.</a>]]>
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   <title>BEL AMI                                                                                                                                      : B.O. MoJo #s for BEL AMI</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">HeadRAZZBerry</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> B.O. MoJo #s for BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 14 2012 at 9:24am<br /><br /><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">It took 'em several daze to admit just <i>how</i> poorly this did on its opening weekend, but the numbers (miniscule as they were) finally came in. So here's a <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=belami.htm" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>B.O. MoJo LINK</u></b></font></a> to see just how badly <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/bel-ami_forum631.html%20" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#990000"><b><u>BEL AMI</u></b></font></a> bombed... &nbsp;</font><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 09 2012 at 12:58pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">R.T. (around 30%): "The film contains some soapy pleasures, but it overall rushes through the narrative and suffers from a vague central performance by <b>Robert Pattinson</b>".</font><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><a href="http://www.rollingst&#111;ne.com/movies/reviews/bel-ami-20120607" target="_blank"><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><b>Peter Travers</b> gave it 1.5/4.</font></a></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8992">oiram</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 07 2012 at 3:14pm<br /><br />Wait, fifth version? Can you please link the other four from Imdb or something? &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b><font color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</font></b> Here's that <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440732/trivia?tab=mc" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>IMDb LINK</u></b></font></a>, as requested. It turns out I didn't scroll down the page far enough when doing my research -- NINE previous film versions of this same source material (an 1895 novel by Guy deMaupassant) were released between 1939 and 2005...&nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9233">MR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 07 2012 at 12:40pm<br /><br />Pattinson chose to do this movie around the time of the first Twilight movie and he was only 23 when he filmed it.  It was filmed prior to Water for Elephants.  It is a small foreign indie and the directors had never even filmed a movie before.  <br><br>It seems weird to me that this small foreign indie is getting a forum when big budget Hollywood films with much lower RT scores that were recently made like The Vow did not get a forum or The Lucky One (with RT at 20%) did not get one started by HeadRazz. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b><font color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</font></b> Not sure if <b>MR</b>&nbsp;understands that R.T. numbers are not the <i>only</i> criteria used for determining RAZZIE</font><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt; ">®</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">&nbsp;Contenders and/or what gets a Forum discussion on our site. We also look at box office (THE VOW, despite mediocre reviews, actually made "big money" in its theatrical release, topping $125 million domestic w/a production budget of about $30 million - </span><a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=vow.htm" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><u>B.O. MoJo LINK</u></font></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">). We also look at what I call a film's "RAZZIE</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt; ">®</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">&nbsp;Pedigree." As I explained in the first posting above regarding BEL AMI, it is not only the 5th screen version of this material (meaning it qualifies for <i>Worst Remake, Rip-Off or Sequel</i>) but it also stars three "actors" who, among them, have garnered a total of 10 RAZZIE</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt; ">®</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">&nbsp;nominations in past years.</span></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Also, <b>MR</b>, if you feel berry strongly about a specific title you think we've over-looked, you are always free to set up a "Member Started Forum" using this <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/memberstarted-discussi&#111;ns-of-2012-releases_forum593.html" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>LINK</u></b></font></a>.&nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">FYI: There is already a Member Started Forum for THE LUCKY ONE (<a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/the-lucky-&#079;ne_topic5861.html" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>LINK</u></b></font></a>) which has generated all of 4 comments so far...&nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9505">mbh</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 07 2012 at 12:22pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><br><div><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">And this is their film debut, and the script writer's too.</font></div></div></td></tr></table><br><br>That might explain why it's so uneven, but I don't know how many scenes they cut or if the writer had no clue how to tell the story. Their inexperience definitely shows. Whoever did the sets and costumes had a clue, though.<br><br>I saw a black and white version of the book with Angela Lansbury and George Sanders a few years ago, which had a totally different ending. Judging between the movies, the Lansbury one was definitely done better overall, but the story was cheesier. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Member Discussion of BEL AMI<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 07 2012 at 12:10pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">The last time <b>Pattinson </b>made an attempt out of the TWILIGHT saga, he did WATER FOR ELEPHANTS. He was nominated for the <b>Vits </b>Award for Worst Movie Actor for that (and BREAKING DAWN PART 1). He's even more likely be nominated for this and PART 2.&nbsp;</font><div><b><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></b></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><b>Uma Thurman</b> and <b>Kristin Scott-Thomas</b> don't really have a career. The former seems to have lost star power, with MY SUPER EX-GIRLFRIEND being her last big Hollywood lead role, and the latter seems to have opted for French indies, but I do recommend her 2010 movie LOVE CRIME (7/10).</font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">I'd like to point out that <b>Vits </b>Award nominee for Best Movie Ensemble <b>Natalia Tena</b> (<b>HARRY POTTER</b>; GAME OF THRONES) appears here too.&nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><div style="font-size: small; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by mbh</strong></em><br /><br />It was directed by a duo of English award winning theatre directors named&nbsp;</div><div style="font-size: small; ">Declan Donnellan, Nick Ormerod.</td></tr></table>&nbsp;</div><div style="font-size: small; "><br></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">And this is their film debut -- and the screenwriter's too.&nbsp;</font></div></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div>]]>
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