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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : My guess here is that if you are...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 17 2011 at 6:36pm<br /><br />My guess here is that if you are that excited about <strong>Breaking Wind, </strong>you probably aren't going to be particularly bowled over by Citizen Kane. ]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :  I have not seen this movie....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=134866">atk2tonogan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 17 2011 at 3:41am<br /><br />I have not seen this movie. But I am very very very excited to see Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 1...&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :  Yes, Citizen Kane is the best...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=133742">jetbrav</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 06 2011 at 1:27am<br /><br />Yes, Citizen Kane is the best movie of all time!!!]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :  Welcome Francessam. Are you...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 31 2011 at 11:17am<br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Welcome <b>Francessam</b>. Are you by any chance the president of the AFI?&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></font>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : Citizen Kane was a really good...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=132604">francessam</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 30 2011 at 9:17pm<br /><br />Citizen Kane was a really good movie and I"m not surprised why it was chosen as the #1 Best movie of all time. I liked Citizen Kane but it's not really my favorite to be in the no.1 spot. My most favorite is Casablanca. It was a truly great classic movie. I also loved Gone with The Wind and The Godfather. &nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :   I don&amp;#039;t think it SHAKESPEARE...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 29 2011 at 10:28am<br /><br />I don't think it SHAKESPEARE a satire at all. Satire uses ironic sarcasm to make a statement, something SIL lacked. It was an homage film. Plus the references were anything but subtle. The priest saying "A plague on both of your houses," not subtle. In another year I might not have minded (although I don't know which). My big problem is that Harvey Weinstein lied his butt off about what kind of film PRIVATE RYAN was. 'Historically Inaccurate?!?' Give me a break! SIL had even less that was actually accurate about it. Not to mention that it managed to take other Oscars away from people who gave performances of a lifetime (such as Cait Blanchett in Elizabeth, who kicked the ever- loving crap out of Gwyneth Paltrow in terms of performance).<div><br></div><div>Weinstein controls the Academy like a puppet master. Not to mention that the Academy has always hated Spielberg's guts. When you combine the two, Private Ryan loses and Weinstein gets to go home with another Oscar. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>Don't even know where to start trying to respond to this diatribe -- If the AMPAS "has always hated Spielberg's guts," how do you explain that he's been Oscar-nominated 13 TIMES (<a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/awards" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><b>IMDb LINK</b></font></a>) and has not only won THREE TIMES, but one of his wins was as&nbsp;<i>Best Director...</i>for PRIVATE RYAN!&nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">As for SHAKESPEARE being "historically inaccurate," it did not represent itself as being about actual history but instead was clearly a romantic fable, merely "riffing" on the works and legends of Shakespeare and his times. &nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">Sounds to me like you're buying into the "Spielberg is God/Fanboy" folklore too readily available on the 'Net... </font>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :  Actually I would vote for Forest...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=86146">maxxxpower</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 29 2011 at 10:02am<br /><br />Actually I would vote for Forest Gump as my best ever -- <i>That</i> is a great movie! &nbsp;]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : I don&amp;#039;t know, notevery SuperBowlmakes...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2011 at 7:56pm<br /><br /><div>I don't know, not&nbsp;every SuperBowl&nbsp;makes for a&nbsp;great showing for all teams. There's the odd chance you get that 33-3 game that should have ended after the second quarter... &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br />I agree that the Oscars are the Super Bowl of the movie industry, but the NFL doesn't have to look back on several of their past champions with a degree of embarrassed throat clearing. I don't think anyone who played for the&nbsp;Green Bay Packers in the '97 Super Bowl would speak of the accomplishment with anything but pride. But&nbsp;seriously, would you ever come out and publicly admit that you were one of the guys who voted for Forrest Gump?</td></tr></table>&nbsp;<div></div>.]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : I was in a rush when I posted...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2011 at 12:17pm<br /><br />I was in a rush when I posted that. I re-checked the source and it didn't say they paid them, but implied it. There's no links, so I can't verify it. Sorry for the confusion.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Link: <a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_18460_5-reas&#111;ns-oscars-matter-even-less-than-you-thought_p2.html" target="_blank">http://www.cracked.com/article_18460_5-reasons-oscars-matter-even-less-than-you-thought_p2.html</A>&nbsp;(Scroll down to number 1)</DIV>]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : I think Shakespeare in Love is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2011 at 10:10am<br /><br /><div>I think Shakespeare in Love is a brilliant film. Considering the fact that I downright loathed the story of Romeo and Juliet and every film adaptation I've seen, I was blown away by how great the movie was. Saving Private Ryan is good too, but I've seen better war films -- like Full Metal Jacket and Letters to Iwo Jima. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Head RAZZberry</strong></em><br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="4">Gotta disagree with you about SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE vs SAVING RYAN's PRIVATES -- I have seen both films multiple times and, while RYAN <i>is</i> one of the best war films ever made, SHAKESPEARE is a brilliant satire that actually expects its audience to be educated enough to get subtle references to several of Shakespeare's classic plays and favorite plot devices. While RYAN is indeed a fine film, SHAKESPEARE is a movie that respects audiences enough not to talk down to us -- an all too rare vote of confidence in movie-goers' intelligence in an age when most of Hollywood thinks we're all complete cretins!</font></td></tr></table><br><br>]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :    I think the reason over...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2011 at 3:54am<br /><br />I think the reason over the Shakespeare In Love backlash is less with the film itself and more with Harvey Weinstein's rumored tactics. Specifically, paying off journalists to claim that Private Ryan was historically inaccurate! &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>Even though this is only an open Forum, and nothing here is technically "published," I feel compelled to point out that, while opinions are most welcome, the posting of accusations, allegations and other "actionable remarks" here is both inappropriate and unwelcome. I bring this up because I just now edited the above post to include the word "rumored" -- I think it's reasonable to assume that, had evidence of the accusations against <b>Weinstein</b> existed, <b>Spielberg</b> and the makers of PRIVATE RYAN would have sought legal recourse. The fact that they did not, while not exactly proving the accusations untrue, certainly lends credence to their being an example of "Urban Folklore."&nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">In future, let's try to stay focused on what each of us thinks about the subjects at hand, rather than posting rumor, innuendo and other material that could be considered "actionable remarks" on our part...&nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :   Ah yes the &amp;#039;97 Superbowl...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2011 at 9:45pm<br /><br />Ah yes the '97 Superbowl one of the bigger upsets in Superbowl history. As a fan of the winning team, the Broncos, I can say that it is indeed better to have gone and lost than not gone at all. Not so much with the Oscars. The Superbowl is actually based off of talent. the winning team worked their butts off to get there. With the Oscars, a few simple payoffs and a giant smear campaign and you will have it regardless of whether or not you deserve it. case and point, Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan which is widely regarded as one of the biggest f*** ups in Oscar history. &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>Gotta disagree with you about SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE vs SAVING RYAN's PRIVATES -- I have seen both films multiple times and, while RYAN <i>is</i> one of the best war films ever made, SHAKESPEARE is a brilliant satire that actually expects its audience to be educated enough to get subtle references to several of Shakespeare's classic plays and favorite plot devices. While RYAN is indeed a fine film, SHAKESPEARE is a movie that respects audiences enough not to talk down to us -- an all too rare vote of confidence in movie-goers' intelligence in an age when most of Hollywood thinks we're all complete cretins! &nbsp;</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2011 at 9:07pm<br /><br />I agree that the Oscars are the Super Bowl of the movie industry, but the NFL doesn't have to look back on several of their past champions with a degree of embarrassed throat clearing. I don't think anyone who played for the&nbsp;Green Bay Packers in the '97 Super Bowl would speak of the accomplishment with anything but pride. But&nbsp;seriously, would you ever come out and publicly admit that you were one of the guys who voted for Forrest Gump?]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE : well 1990 would be a do-over because...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2011 at 7:50pm<br /><br />well 1990 would be a do-over because Goodfellas has aged so much better than DWW so is the second half of your list films that most people feel shouldn't have won that you agree with the win?]]>
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   <title>CITIZEN KANE :  I would also add to the &amp;#034;Oscar...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2011 at 6:10pm<br /><br />I would also add to the "Oscar re-do years" list: 1956 and 1981. &nbsp;<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Also, 1990 being on your list amuses me because I have Dances With Wolves on my counter. Let's see if it winds up in the same company as Around The World In 80 Days/Chariots Of Fire/Crash or it ranks with Cimarron/Forrest Gump/My Fair Lady.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 18 2011 at 5:11pm<br /><br />They should poll a bunch of film critics for years to redo. I'm sure 1998 would be at the top of the list as well as 1941, 1952, 1979, 1980, and 1990 to start with.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 18 2011 at 4:39pm<br /><br /><p>The Oscars are to Hollywood what the SuperBowl is to American football. When the industry is not obsessed with plugging tentpole movies, it's obsessed with winning Oscars ...&nbsp;and so are people outside of the industry. Thousands of office pools are based on the results,&nbsp;studios create "buzz" for their movies with them, many people go into the movie business just to win one, and we get months' worth of hype leading up&nbsp;to the award show ... in other words, it's an even bigger event than those so-called "movie events of the summer!" The Oscars are so ingrained in the movie and entertainment business, it would be impossible to have them on a "once every four/five years basis." So, yeah, your idea is just wishful thinking.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 18 2011 at 11:40am<br /><br />I wouldn't disagree that The Godfather was deserving of Best Picture that year. In any one of many other years, Cabaret probably <EM>would have </EM>won. I've always thought that giving out a Best Picture every year might be a mistake. Perhaps the Oscars should only be held once every 5 years, and they could honor the 5 Best movies, performances etc etc for that time period. There are years when there truly are more than one really worthy movie followed by periods of 2 or 3 years where nothing is deserving. That is one good thing about the Razzies...we always have at least one truly deserving movie <EM>every year. <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></EM>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 18 2011 at 7:24am<br /><br />Well there are lists with films like that. The main list with Kane at the top is the American Film Institute list which deals only with American films.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9186">Vheid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 18 2011 at 2:31am<br /><br />I found some time to visit the forum, school is busy but I am enjoying myself <font size="1"><i>(I love art so many times more then film to be honoust)</i></font>...<br><br>I have to admit that I didn't read the entire discussion <font size="1"><i>(because it's seven pages long)</i><font size="2">, but I wanted to throw in two arguments that I hope havn't been said yet... Mainly because I want to hear your thoughts on the subjects...<br><br>1. I've noticed that a lot of "BEST FILM EVER"-lists not only list Citizan Kane, Casablanca and The Godfather near the top... They also seem to exlude any non-American (or foreign language) film... Shouldn't a REAL best film also include films like La Strada, The Bicycle Thieves, Rashomon, Der Himmel Über Berlin, any Sergei Eisenstein-film and many others <font size="1"><i>(a lot of which I probably never saw)</i></font>? It's one of the reasons why I never trust those lists... I always had an idea that there is a cultural bias in favor of American films <font size="1"><i>(not only in America)</i></font>... Image if Citizen Kane was made in the Czechoslovakia instead of the States... Would people still put it in their top 10 or 100 if this were the case....<br><br>2. I believe that Hearst wasn't the only factor why the film did so badly at the box office... It was simply the right movie made in the wrong time period.... I heard somewere that Kane, while being succesfull in the big cities, attracted little visitors in the more rural areas.... and who can blame them... My grandfather <font size="1"><i>(at age 90 now)</i></font> was still living in poverty caused by the great depression around that time <font size="1"><i>(of course it didn't help that Holland was recently invaded by Germany)</i></font></font></font>... and I asume that a lot of Americans also were slowly recovering from it... I might be wrong but I don't think these people would have wanted to see a movie about the rich and privileged around that time <font size="1"><i>(no matter how good the movie was)</i></font>..... Any disagreements?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 2:12pm<br /><br />Also, On Golden Pond and Raiders of the Lost Ark are vastly different movies, so it would be hard to compare the two.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 2:11pm<br /><br />For Pacino, that's the joke for sure. He lost for so many masterpiece roles to people who hadn't won before so 'it was their time.' Ironically he won for the same reason.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 11:50am<br /><br />I just thought of something: a lot of people think that Pacino over-acts in his movies because he won his Oscar for an over-the-top performance. If he won for The Godfather, would he still be giving quiet, quality performances?<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also, I just rented On Golden Pond from the Le Moyne library. I don't think I'll like it as much as Raiders, but I'm 1000% sure that it'll be better than Chariots Of Fire! (And that third zero was intentional!)</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 11:14am<br /><br />Oh I'm not saying he was bad by ay means. He was a great character to watch. And I know all about the Oscar history between the two films that year. But just because a film wins a lot of Oscars doesn't mean they deserve them *Cough cough*&nbsp;SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE *cough cough*. One could argue that any one of the actors nominated in The Godfather did a lot to drive the show. They had a lot of excellent character development and emotional depth. Were they overshadowed by Brando? well that's just an inevitability. You gotta agree that The Godfather deserved Best Picture though. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 9:36am<br /><br />I would have to side with HeadRazz on the Joel Grey debate. His onscreen time was not extensive, but he gave the film its atmosphere and power. The impact this movie had really sets it in a different class than&nbsp;the typical Hollywood&nbsp;musical. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 17 2011 at 12:03am<br /><br />You're probably right. Anyone from The Godfather was leaps and bounds ahead of Joel Grey. No contest really. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 25px; : rgb244, 242, 191; font-size: large; "><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</font></b>&nbsp;Gotta disagree with you on&nbsp;<b>Joel Grey</b>'s Oscar win for CABARET -- The M.C. character is the driving force of the film, and though most of what he did was "musical" rather than "dramatic," I consider his one of the great performances in all of movie musical history. It is also an interesting footnote to any discussion of CABARET that it holds the dubious distinction of being the film that won the most Oscars&nbsp;<i>without</i>&nbsp;winning Best Picture -- CABARET got 8 (including Best Director for&nbsp;<b>Bob Fosse</b>&nbsp;-&nbsp;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068327/awards" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>IMDb LINK</u></b></font></a>) while that year's Best Picture winner, THE GODFATHER, took only 3 (Best Picture, Actor and Adapted Screenplay -&nbsp;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/awards" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>IMDb LINK</u></b></font></a>)... &nbsp;</span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 25px; : rgb244, 242, 191; font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 25px; : rgb244, 242, 191; font-size: large; "><br></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 16 2011 at 9:08pm<br /><br />Just finished Chariots Of Fire and it was boring. The only Best Picture contender that I've seen from 81' was, obviously, Raiders, but any of them would be better than this! Also, saw Caberat and The Caine Mutiny. They were both enjoyable movies, although I'm not sure about Joel Grey's Best Supporting Actor win. He didn't seem to do much in it. Robert Duvall from The Godfather would have been a better choice.*&nbsp;<div>&nbsp;</div><div>*A lot of people think that because James Caan and Al Pacino were nominated as well, they split the vote between the three, much like people think Judy Holliday's win for Born Yesterday over Anne Baxter and Bette Davis for All About Eve was due to this.**&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>**I haven't seen Born Yesterday, so it could be a great, legitimate performance. I just know that a lot of people think this. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</font></b> Since it <i>is</i> my #1 Favorite Movie of All Time, you will probably not be surprised to hear that I have always thought the Best Actress Oscar for 1950 should have gone not to Davis, Baxter or Holliday, but to <b>Gloria Swanson</b> for SUNSET BLVD. Given the sentimental overtones of finally awarding one of the original movie idols (and the Academy's tendency to <i>always</i> go for the sentimental choice) it's kind of surprising they didn't give it to Gloria. Then again, Academy voters often let their feelings about the overall film color their opinions about individual performances in them -- and most of Hollywood though writer/director <b>Billy Wilder</b> had viciously stabbed them in the back by even <i>making</i> SUNSET BLVD... &nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 16 2011 at 5:52pm<br /><br />I totally agree. Hepburn and Fonda were pretty spectacular in their roles (as per usual)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=599">ITbeast</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 16 2011 at 3:21pm<br /><br />On Golden Pond Should have picked up Best Picture that Year, I'm glad at least that Henry Fonda won for Best Actor.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5365<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 16 2011 at 3:17pm<br /><br />Don't forget that Raiders Of The Lost Ark (my favorite movie) was up for Best Picture the same year as Chariots Of Fire.]]>
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