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The Official RAZZIE® Forum : DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs http://www.razzies.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The Official RAZZIE® Forum : Entire RAZZIE® History, Year-by-Year: 1980-2012 : DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs Sun, 19 May 2013 02:56:20 +0000 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:56:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.70 360 www.razzies.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1110 The Official RAZZIE® Forum http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_images/RazzieLogo02.gif http://www.razzies.com/forum/ DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : You're right. IMDB didn't... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51355#51355 Author: Vits
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 6:56am

You're right. IMDB didn't list the nominees for Worst Ensemble because... well... too many names!]]> Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:56:38 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51355#51355 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Sandler actually has six.... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51353#51353 Author: SchumacherH8ter
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Posted: June 18 2012 at 8:29pm

Sandler actually has six. Worst Actor '99 for Big Daddy and Worst Actor, Actress, Screenplay, Screen Couple, and Ensemble '11 for Jack & Jill.]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:29:10 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51353#51353 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Stallone has won 10, while Sandler... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51348#51348 Author: Vits
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Posted: June 18 2012 at 3:09pm

Stallone has won 10, while Sandler has won 5.

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Posted: June 17 2012 at 7:30pm

I lost track of all of Adam Sandler's "wins" that I'm beginning to suspect he might have surpassed da gas bag known as Stallone...]]> Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:30:10 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=51344#51344 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I am inclined to disagree...2005... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45183#45183 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 9:32pm

I am inclined to disagree...2005 was a much more necessary time to release it. I doubt that it would get that much more attention today.]]> Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:32:38 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45183#45183 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : That's the thing, I think... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45182#45182 Author: Michaels
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 9:23pm

That's the thing, I think 2005 was just the wrong year for that movie to be released. If it were released today, it would have gotten more notice for the reasons stated above, since it speaks even more loudly today.]]> Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:23:39 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45182#45182 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : The stakes where higher than that... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45175#45175 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 6:49pm

The stakes where higher than that in the time period this movie is portraying. They were again in 2005 and still are now. Most of the country just hasn't figured that out yet. But we have a considerable portion of the population that claims to hate and distrust government, yet allows themselves to be spoon fed by the PR arm of one political party (despite the fact that they also claim to hate and distrust the press). It was an important movie. Too bad more people didn't see it and really think about the message.

The wisdom of Edward R. Murrow:

We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them.

Originally posted by Michaels

Really? I just saw it a high profile docu-drama and not much else. Sure, it was a nice little reminder of whe

n the news actually challenged the government, rather than be its PR service, but I didn't consider it a Best Picture winner.

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Posted: August 14 2011 at 6:58am

Really? I just saw it a high profile docu-drama and not much else. Sure, it was a nice little reminder of when the news actually challenged the government, rather than be its PR service, but I didn't consider it a Best Picture winner.

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: So what would you have designated as 2005's Best Picture??

]]> Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:58:33 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45139#45139 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I would agree with Head Razz that... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45111#45111 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 13 2011 at 6:17pm

I would agree with Head Razz that Goodnight and Goodluck should have won Best Picture in 2005. It is one of the most underrated films of the past decade or so, imho. ]]> Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:17:05 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45111#45111 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Yeah, all the past winners'... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45069#45069 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 3:38pm

Yeah, all the past winners' reasons have been listed above. "Hurt Locker": gotta give Best Director to a woman, "Departed": gotta give Scorsese his long awaited props. "Crash": there's no gay cowboys there. In other words: politics.

And I'm not saying those were bad movie that didn't deserve to win, I'm just saying that they won for the wrong results. And no saturnwatcher, it wasn't because anyone was given "gifts" for their votes (although I'm sure it has happened in the past, but like I said, not to all 7000 members, just even to get the vote to swing in your direction).]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:38:33 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45069#45069 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Crash winning goes beyond... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45068#45068 Author: Vheid
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 3:36pm

Crash winning goes beyond that... It shouldn't even been the runner up for Best Picture...
It shouldn't even have been nominated (it wasn't even nominated for the Globes)...

The film is bad... It has all the depth of a melodramatic television movie....
And it calls itself a anti-racism movie but meanwhile depicts Asians and Arabs as uneducated stereotypes... I was recently flipping through the channels and saw that Crash was on TV....
I tried rewatching, but I just couldn't... It's very unpleasent to watch...

Originally posted by Vits

Again...how many people are against CRASH mainly because they think the Oscars are homofobes?

As for The Departed... It's a decent and well made movie...
But it just feels very inferior when you put it next to Infernal Affairs....
I know someone who isn't even willing to watch it, because he liked the original that much...
]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:36:20 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45068#45068 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I would've been happier if... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45063#45063 Author: Vits
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 3:05pm

I would've been happier if the Oscar results had been like the Globes: Best Picture for BABEL, and Best Director for Scorsese.

Originally posted by Michaels

Oh yeah, "Babel" should have won, but that was the "Okay, we need to finally give Martin Scorsese his Best Director Oscar that we have been denying him for decades now!" year and Best Picture went along with it.

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:05:08 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45063#45063 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Yeah, that was the year of "we... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45059#45059 Author: Michaels
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 2:51pm

Yeah, that was the year of "we might get heat for giving Best Picture to a movie about gay cowboys, so let's go with the safer bet and give it to the movie about racism." I don't hate "Crash," but I wouldn't call it the Best Picture of that year...

Originally posted by Grounder the Critic

I thought Crash was lame. And I agree that the Oscar thing with Crashwas a joke.

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I may be setting off a hornet's next of angry discussion here, but here's a LINK to the 2005 Oscar nominees on IMDb and, I have to say, having seen four of the five Best Picture nominees, I would've picked CAPOTE or GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK over either CRASH or BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.

Out of curiosity, I also went to RT and checked the ratings for all five 2005 Best Picture nominees, and with 76% favorable (LINK) CRASH had a lower total than GOOD NIGHT & GOOD LUCK's 94% (LINK), CAPOTE's 90% (LINK) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN's 87% (LINK) or even MUNICH's 78% (LINK)...

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:51:48 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45059#45059 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Oh yeah, "Babel" should... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45058#45058 Author: Michaels
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 2:50pm

Oh yeah, "Babel" should have won, but that was the year of "Okay, we need to finally give Martin Scorsese his Best Director Oscar that we have been denying him for decades now!" and Best Picture just went along with it.

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Actually, Best Director is voted on (in the nominating process, at least) only by AMPAS members in the directing branch -- but Best Picture is the one category on which every voting member casts their ballot. So the pool from which each list of nominees was culled is not the same one. Thus, suggesting that "Best Picture just went along with it" is technically not a correct assessment of how Oscar voting works...

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:50:11 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45058#45058 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Again...how many people are... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45054#45054 Author: Vits
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 2:23pm

Again...how many people are against CRASH mainly because they think Oscar voters are homophobes?]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:23:42 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45054#45054 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I thought Crash was lame. And... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45052#45052 Author: Grounder the Critic
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 2:13pm

I thought Crash was lame. And I agree that the Oscar thing with Crash was a joke.]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:13:37 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45052#45052 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Babel is so-o-o-o many times... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45047#45047 Author: Vheid
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 1:05pm

Babel is so-o-o-o many times better than Crash...

But then, I really hate Crash and consider it one of the biggest mistakes in recent Oscar-history.

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:05:44 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45047#45047 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Now that I think about it...a... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45046#45046 Author: Vits
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 1:00pm

Now that I think about it...a lot of people claim THE DEPARTED won because BABEL (which won the Golden Globe and several other awards) was too similar to CRASH, and they didn't want to show favoritism.]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:00:25 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45046#45046 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : One that comes to my mind would... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45042#45042 Author: Michaels
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 12:32pm

One that comes to my mind would be "Hurt Locker" and the need to finally give a female director Best Director (and Best Picture along with it) just to shut up people who claim the Oscars are sexist. I don't mind though, because "Hurt Locker" was a damn good movie, and "Avatar" was just a fun display of what CGI can do these days.

Originally posted by Vits

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

As for the past 4 "independent" movies to win Best Picture, that's where the politics side of Hollywood comes in.

How so?

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Posted: August 12 2011 at 10:11am

How so?

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

As for the past 4 "independent" movies to win Best Picture, that's where the politics side of Hollywood comes in.

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:11:21 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45036#45036 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Guilty as charged, for a simple... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45033#45033 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 10:03am

Guilty as charged, for a simple reason...I will offer one more quote from a different context. The late Arthur C. Clarke was once asked what he thought of UFO's. His reply, "If you have never seen a UFO, you aren't very observant. And if you have seen as many as I have, you won't believe in them any more." I feel exactly the same way about conspiracies (and for the record, UFO's). Typically, the effort that would need to be expended simply makes them implausible, especially since, in this instance, it would not generally be one group working towards a single end, but several competing groups each having to outdo the efforts of others. That would make for a pretty messy situation, to put it mildly.

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

I know saturnwatcher is the kind of person who is always ready with his shotgun to shoot down any and all conspiracies that are brought up,

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:03:20 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45033#45033 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I know saturnwatcher is the kind... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45030#45030 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 9:43am

I know saturnwatcher is the kind of person who is always ready with his shotgun to shoot down any and all conspiracies that are brought up, but given this day and age in which governments are pretty much doing the bidding of Wall Street and banks because that's where their money for their political campaigns are coming from, can you really blame people for claiming other areas of business are paying under the table to get the results that they want?

Given the current lazy approach of pumping out nothing but sequels, reboots, and remakes by the dozens every year because they want "sure things", is it really hard to believe all Hollywood cares for is where the buck stops, even if it means their most beloved of award shows? I'm pretty sure the Golden Globes are not alone, even if the Oscars has several times the amount of members to it.

As for the past 4 "independent" movies to win Best Picture, that's where the politics side of Hollywood comes in.

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

But 4 of the last 6 Best Picture winners weren't the product of major studios. Conspiracies are always easy to cook up, but I haven't seen very many for which there is reasonable evidence. A suggestion of impropriety isn't impropriety. To draw an appropriate quote from the bowels of Hollywood, "SHOW ME THE MOOOONEEEEY!!!!! Or, to employ Hanlon's razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." In this case, I think the voting system is ultimately the problem.

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:43:34 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45030#45030 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : But 4 of the last 6 Best Picture... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45025#45025 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 7:25am

But 4 of the last 6 Best Picture winners weren't the product of major studios. Conspiracies are always easy to cook up, but I haven't seen very many for which there is reasonable evidence. A suggestion of impropriety isn't impropriety. To draw an appropriate quote from the bowels of Hollywood, "SHOW ME THE MOOOONEEEEY!!!!! Or, to employ Hanlon's razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." In this case, I think the voting system is ultimately the problem.

]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:25:03 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45025#45025 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Considering that all the major... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45022#45022 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 6:43am

Considering that all the major film studios are owned by mega-rich corporations with plenty of money to burn, it wouldn't be all that hard to payoff a good percentage of 7000 voters. Just saying.]]> Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:43:55 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45022#45022 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurnI... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45017#45017 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 9:55pm

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

I say it has more to do with the politics and payoffs. I mean, HELLO, does Harvey Wienstein rings any bells? That man will sell out his own mother if it meant a movie with his name attached to it would win an Oscar in any category.

I would offer that if we are discussing which movies get nominated, there almost certainly is a lot of politics and payoffs. But once the actual voting starts, I just don't buy it. It is one thing to significantly influence a silly organization like the Hollywood Foreign Press and manipulate the Golden Globs, which probably happens every year. But to make a firm impact on some 7000 AMPAS voters and try to swindle an auditing firm like Price-Waterhouse with a very solid reputation...you'd have an easier time convincing me that JKF was shot by 6 drunk Martians behind the railroad overpass near the grassy knoll. However, as I have attempted to point out above, the voting system lends itself to bizzare results, and I'm absolutely certain that a few movies, and probably actors have benefited from a flawed system. If I could ever get my hands on the voting results from a few years where there have been suspicious winners, I think I could prove it. But since AMPAS won't release results, it will have to remain a suspicion.]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:55:14 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45017#45017 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Originally posted by GTAHater767A... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45005#45005 Author: Vits
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 3:17pm

Originally posted by GTAHater767

A Beautiful Mind: #24 Best on my Countdown of Cinema 2001. When I compiled the 2001 list, I wanted to avoid cliches as much as possible with the order I put them in. Besides, this film lost points for some flaws, particularly that John Forbes-Nash only heard the voices of three of the characters; he never saw them visually.

1)So...you're admitting personal thoughts intervened with your choices.Just like the Oscars...sometimes.

2)It's a flaw if you're the kind of person who prefers when movies based on real life have to be as accurate as possible.Some don't care about that.For me,it depends.I think him not seeing them would've ruined the movie.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Chicago: #5 Best on my Countdown of Cinema 2002. #1 on my list was The Pianist.

I gave THE PIANIST 4/10.I admit my personal thoughts intervened as well.Because half of my family is jewish,I try my best not to feel emotional when watching Holocaust movies.But that's not the only reason.The movie suffered from bad narrative(it's based on memoirs and not a novel,which was written by someone who wasn't a pro writer).

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Million Dollar Baby: #4 on my Top 30 Films of 2004. #1 was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

I gave them 5 and 8* respectively.

*I saw it a during a period when I needed to say happy endings.It could be a 9 if a I see it again.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

The Departed: #1 on my Top 30 Films of 2006. Then again there wasn't much competition for Best Picture in 2006 either.

THE DEPARTED:9

THE QUEEN:4

LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE:7

BABEL:9

I'd say I liked BABEL more,but I'm happy with THE DEPARTED.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

The King's Speech: #2 on my Top 40 Films of 2010. I put The Social Network at #1, but it was by an extremely narrow margin!

I would've been happy with 127 HOURS,BLACK SWAN or TRUE GRIT,which I gave them all 9.

]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:17:11 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45005#45005 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : This whole mess is exactly why... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45001#45001 Author: GTAHater767
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 1:36pm

This whole mess is exactly why that if a film wins Best Picture at the OSCARs, I don't necessarily think it's the best film of the year. It often comes pretty close; the reviews, other nominations, other victories, and accolades in other award ceremonies (like the BAFTAs) have to back it up before I potentially declare it the #1 Best Film of the year. Lo and behold, upon seeing the film, I'll likely agree with the OSCARS' selection for Best Picture, even if others don't!

Gladiator: #1 Best on my Countdown of Cinema 2000.

A Beautiful Mind: #24 Best on my Countdown of Cinema 2001. When I compiled the 2001 list, I wanted to avoid cliches as much as possible with the order I put them in. Besides, this film lost points for some flaws, particularly that John Forbes-Nash only heard the voices of three of the characters; he never saw them visually. #1 on my list was Gosford Park. I'm surprised at how little heat I've taken for not putting Harry Potter, A Beautiful Mind, The Lord of the Rings, or Moulin Rouge at the top of my list. It was because I didn't want to be just like everybody else back then.

Chicago: #5 Best on my Countdown of Cinema 2002. I imagine this to be where you people start to disagree with me. I'm not as harsh in my analysis of films as HeadRAZZBerry and other members with post quantities in the quadruple digits at the RAZZIES. #1 on my list was The Pianist.

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: #1 on my Top 30 Films of 2003.

Million Dollar Baby: #4 on my Top 30 Films of 2004. Looking at my Best Films lists going back to 2000, 2004 is my favorite. #1 was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It wasn't a Best Picture runner-up, but all 5 finalists were in the top 10 that year.

Crash: #15 on my Top 30 Films of 2005. It lost some points because the reviews were good, but not great, and because it reinforced Asian stereotypes. Judging by the name of the film, I'd say it's the one that says Asians are bad at driving cars. 2005 was a particularly bad year for film, if you ask me, and if my cohorts didn't agree with me naming Good Night and Good Luck #1, I don't trust any of you will either.

The Departed: #1 on my Top 30 Films of 2006. It had enough other accolades to back it up, if you ask me. Then again there wasn't much competition for Best Picture in 2006 either.

No Country For Old Men: #1 on my Top 40 Films of 2007. At first, none of my peers agreed with me. Many people I heard say No Country For Old Men wasn't good enough to win Best Picture said Juno deserved it. Most of my younger peers who outright disliked or hated NCFOM said they actually liked Norbit! 7 months after I published the first edition of the 2007 list, people suddenly stopped supporting Norbit and started supporting No Country.

Slumdog Millionaire: #2 on my Top 40 Films of 2008. "Two Double-O-Eight" was such a nasty year for film that I left slots #40-#38 blank on the Top 40. My dad and step-mom saw this before it was famous, and said it was among their best experiences of the time. It was a pretty close call, but I put The Dark Knight at #1.

The Hurt Locker: #1 on my Top 40 Films of 2009. In Episode 1404, You Have 0 Friends, Kip Drordy questioned whether The Hurt Locker deserved Best Picture. 2009 had a massive quantity of worthwhile films, and all 9 runners-up were on my Top 40 for that year. The universal acclaim and almost 50 accolades that caught my attention justified my decision, in my eyes.

The King's Speech: #2 on my Top 40 Films of 2010. Once again, all 9 runners-up were on my BEST list. I put The Social Network at #1, but it was by an extremely narrow margin! I know that many of the best films of the New Millennium may not be remembered for years to come, but upon seeing them, I honestly believe they were the best those years had to offer. As for films being remembered, that factors into my Retro Best of lists, which cover films from 1999 and before.

]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:36:19 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=45001#45001 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : I say it has more to do with the... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=44991#44991 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 12:14pm

I say it has more to do with the politics and payoffs. I mean, HELLO, does Harvey Wienstein rings any bells? That man will sell out his own mother if it meant a movie with his name attached to it would win an Oscar in any category.]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:14:48 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=44991#44991 DISCUSSION of All-Time RAZZIE® Champs : Originally posted by MichaelsSo... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1110&PID=44976#44976 Author: saturnwatcher
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 8:02am

Originally posted by Michaels

So either politics or payoffs were involved?

I don't think anything that sinister is involved. Quite the contrary, I think that utilizing a firm like Price-Waterhouse makes it pretty difficult for the results to be rigged (not impossible, but certainly difficult, since someone there knows the results and would blow the whistle). I just think that there have been a few occasions where films that ordinarily would have finished 3rd or 4th have won because the votes get split between two or three better films.

Let's say that there are two really strong films in the running, either one of which might have drawn, say 54% of the vote if the other hadn't been nominated. There is a 3rd film which has a solid base of support, say 28% of the vote. The rest of the field is going to divide up the remaining 18%. If the votes for the top 2 are more or less evenly split, the 3rd film in the group is going to win.

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Posted: August 10 2011 at 8:53pm

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Permit me to add to my remarks above. While I don't think that there is a strong indication that any Best Picture since Rocky has won as the result of a vote split, there are actually several years since where a measure of suspicion can be offered. The best candidates in the years since are 1980, 1981, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1999, 2000 and 2004.

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