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   <title>DISCUSSION of Mel Gibson&#039;s Career... :  His career is pretty much done...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2971">Vega six</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 13 2011 at 10:20am<br /><br />His career is pretty much done and now he wants to make a Jewish movie? Oy Vey! He should have done the Oprah thing ("Cry you bastard, cry!") and maybe then he would have a career left...but, no!<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;<table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia</strong></em><br /><br />When it comes to my opinion of Mel Gibson, it's mind over matter: I don't mind him...because he doesn't matter anymore! &nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>So so true.&nbsp;</div></div>]]>
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   <title>DISCUSSION of Mel Gibson&#039;s Career... :  When it comes to my opinion...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 02 2011 at 9:06pm<br /><br />When it comes to my opinion of Mel Gibson, it's mind over matter: I don't mind him...because he doesn't matter anymore! &nbsp;]]>
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   <title>DISCUSSION of Mel Gibson&#039;s Career... : I just saw THE BEAVER.Jodie Foster...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 02 2011 at 6:37pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw THE BEAVER.</font><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><b>Jodie Foster</b> is <i>berry</i> good,and <b>Mel Gibson</b> is Oscar worthy.But the movie never really talks about his depression.It tries to be ambiguous but in reality they just didn't know what they were talking about.<b>Anton Yelchin</b>'s storylines were meant to be fillers but they ended up feeling like a whole different movie.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I give it 4/10.</font></div>]]>
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   <title>DISCUSSION of Mel Gibson&#039;s Career... : We will see just how forgiving...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 07 2011 at 9:00am<br /><br />We will see just how forgiving the movie going public is of Gibson when he makes another movie ... that doesn't have to do with him talking through a puppet.]]>
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   <title>DISCUSSION of Mel Gibson&#039;s Career... : Kudos to you, Em - very well said! ...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 06 2011 at 12:40pm<br /><br />Kudos to you, Em - very well said!]]>
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stayedprivate in the first place--anything to trash Mel eh? And now they also want todrag Jodie down because she, a person that has known him for YEARS, fullysupports him and says he's a fine person. </p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Amazingly they onlyreport the bad parts of Mel's story! What about reporting ALL of the story? </p><p ="Ms&#111;normal">How about history on Oksana and Officer Mee for instance,how she has used every man in her path and told countless lies her whole life('skill' learned from her mother) and how Officer Mee laid in wait, tipped offby someone inside the restaurant, how he was such a<span style="">&nbsp; </span>bad officer he failed miserably on hisperformance marks for YEARS, how he could not manage to follow departmentpolicy, how his co-workers claim HE is the one that used the term 'sugar ti..'well you know.</p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="">&nbsp;</span>And how about Mel'shistory: how his lead attorney is Jewish and a woman, his best friends arewomen (Jodie and his sister) how his one and only agent ever was Jewish AND gayand how much Mel loved the guy, how so many people have come and spoken up forhim it is amazing--yet the media doesn't carry those stories does it. Hm. Spinmuch? </p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Will they keep onasking this question again and again until they receive the answer they so obviously want?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Why such a deceptive game filled withloathing and hate for two of Hollyweird's FINEST? </p><p ="Ms&#111;normal">Whatever their game is, the people who know Gibson and thefans who have followed his career, aren't totally buying it yet.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They are having a go at his fan-base, will thepeople who know him be next?"</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 31 2011 at 8:31am<br /><br />and on&nbsp; a more positive note....<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLLMzr3PFgk<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 29 2011 at 1:13pm<br /><br /><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I meant being resentful toward the idea of there being a God, or the world, life, etc. Seriously, wherever you go there's someone who will say: "You believe in God?! But what about all the bad things that happen in the world?!" &nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vheid</strong></em><br /><br />Vits, I am not resentful towards Christians...</td></tr></table></span></font></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9186">Vheid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 29 2011 at 12:51pm<br /><br /><p>I couldn't agree more... &nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 29 2011 at 12:48pm<br /><br />I for one don't even understand why there is such hatred towards the Jewish faith to begin with. This faith makes up a very small portion of the world population. Various forms of Catholism and Islam are the top two religions, followed by atheism, with all three ranking in the hundreds of millions. Judaism, on the other hand, isn't even among the top five religions, it's numbers are only in the hundred thousands. There are more Buddists and Hindus in the world than Jews. So it's not like Judism is some kind of threat to any other faith. And the Jews really haven't caused great injustices to society, like Catholics and Muslims have (in the name of their faiths) over the centuries.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Just saying... &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9186">Vheid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 28 2011 at 11:55pm<br /><br />Vits: I am not resentful towards Christians... My parents and my little brother are all Christians and I still have a very good bond with them... I just don't like it when people imply that you have to believe in their God to be a good person...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 28 2011 at 1:19pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Here's the deal:</font><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">It's not bad to be an atheist.A lot of times other religions try convincing them.That's wrong because people are entitled to choose,and if you're adults then you know what you're doing however.However,that's not the real issue.They try convincing them because,nowadays,most people become atheist not because they're more scientific,but because they're angry.My grandpa is a Holocaust survivor and he doesn't believe in God mainly* because he "can't" believe in someone who would let that happen.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I'm a christian,but not very religious.I never go to church or pray.But I'm still bugged when someone choose to not believe for reasons like that.I'm not concerned that people will go to Hell for not believing(that's fanatism),I'm concerned that people will live with resentment.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><b>GTA</b>,you cheated.You made a SOUTH PARK reference without saying the episode.<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp;Anyway,I strongly believed in that.Yeah,I liked THE PASSION,but I also believe that's a great movie for atheists.If people believe in <b>Jesus </b>and love him,they should watch one of those Easter specials.That movie is better for non-believers because it shows the suffering of a person,regardless if he was the messiah.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">It wasn't a snuff film,because it used FX rather than real corpses and blood.But if you meant to ask if it was an explotation film...that doesn't depend on how graphic the movie is,but on the reasons and purposes to be that graphic.Take <b>Larry Clark</b>:KIDS wasn't explotation,but <b>KEN PARK</b> was.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">*He also believes in evolution.</font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 28 2011 at 11:32am<br /><br />Yeah! And what of Mel Gibson focusing on how Jesus got killed in <EM>The Passion of the Christ</EM>? I believe that it's not how Jesus Christ died that made him a hero, it is how he lived. (Correct me if I'm thinking of the armed forces!) Focusing on how he got killed was what&nbsp;cost people their well-being&nbsp;in the dark ages. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>Does anyone here, by any chance, think <EM>The Passion</EM> was a snuff film?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>By the way, I'm also secular, so I'll be irked if anyone here thinks I'm inferior, a bad person, etc.&nbsp;just because I don't follow a religion. However, I will admit I definitely don't have the "Christian value" of starting&nbsp;a "traditional" or "mom, pop, and the kids" style family.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9186">Vheid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 28 2011 at 10:03am<br /><br /><p>Nothing against you, <strong>Patsi45</strong>, but your posts just made me cringe... &nbsp;</p><p>I don't want to start another of discussion about religion (because the last time it directed so much hatred towards me...). I do however want to ask the following questions: Why can't atheists (like me) be good people? What does "god" have to do with common decency? Is someone a bad person if he/she doesn't have "Christian values"?&nbsp;</p><p>Judgment of a (probably fictional) higher being is one thing, choosing to be kind and respectful to others is something completely different (and doesn't have anything to do with religion)...</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Update: </font>Oh yeah... I am apparently 6 posts from 500... I am thinking of saving that one for something special....</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 28 2011 at 8:46am<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Why do people continue with that?I saw THE PASSION and didn't see any anti-semitism.</font></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 27 2011 at 11:48pm<br /><br />No one is in a position to cast stones since "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."<br><br>I haven't seen Passion of the Christ but it was my understanding that the movie is based on&nbsp; the gospels and if Mel remained true to scripture, the movie would have to indicate that the Jews of the day took part in Jesus' death because they considered His claim that He was their promised Messiah blasphemous and according to Jewish law, that was an offense worthy of death.&nbsp; The movie also should have shown the Gentiles involvement in His crucification since the Jews didn't have the authority to impose a death sentence.<br><br>Ultimately, if the movie is based&nbsp; on the biblical account of Jesus' crucification, then it would have to emphasize&nbsp; that <font face="Arial, Helvetica">Jesus'death was an essential part of God's plan for our salvation.&nbsp; Jesus said&nbsp; that n</font>o one takes his life from him, but he laid it down of his own accord. "I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."&nbsp; <font face="Arial, Helvetica">John 10:18 <br></font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 27 2011 at 6:10pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patsi45</strong></em><br /><br />According to the press, Mel has displayed some terrible behavior and in regard to that, I'm praying for him. On the other hand, he's been a blessing to many&nbsp; as well and for that, I thank God, and will reserve judgment, since I don't feel like I'm in a position to "cast any stones."&nbsp;</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Was Mel in any position to cast stones at the Jewish faith in Passion of the Christ?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 26 2011 at 12:43pm<br /><br />According to the press, Mel has displayed some terrible behavior and in regard to that, I'm praying for him. On the other hand, he's been a blessing to many&nbsp; as well and for that, I thank God, and will reserve judgment, since I don't feel like I'm in a position to "cast any stones."&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 24 2011 at 12:53pm<br /><br /><div>And strike THREE, he threatened his girlfriend. Now, I don't know where everyone stands on domestic violence, but for me, NO woman deserves to be shouted at like that, I don't care what she said or did to get him that mad at her.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It's like when people said Rihanna probably deserved to be beaten up like she was by Chris Brown. Rihanna had bruises the size of devil's horns, I don't care what she did or said in that car that night, no woman deserves that.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So for me, when it comes to Mel, that's three strikes, he's out for good...end of that. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br /><div></div>I don't think one has to know Mel Gibson personally to make some relevant judgements. Given his drunken outburst aimed at a couple of police officers that were simply out protecting folks like you and me from drunken drivers like Mel, we can call "Strike ONE!" Given that said outburst included some vapid anti-semitic characterizations, and the fact that Mel's father is a known holocaust denier, we can call "Strike TWO!".&nbsp; The fact that his judgement was so poor that he got behind the wheel of a car at all when&nbsp;he was that stinking drunk&nbsp;is close to strike three, but given that a lot of people have done that, I guess we have to hold off a moment before sending him to the bench.</td></tr></table>&nbsp;<div></div><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 24 2011 at 4:13am<br /><br />I don't think one has to know Mel Gibson personally to make some relevant judgments. Given his drunken outburst aimed at a couple of police officers that were simply out protecting folks like you and me from drunken drivers like Mel, we can call "Strike ONE!" Given that said outburst included some vapid anti-semitic characterizations, and the fact that Mel's father is a known Holocaust denier, we can call "Strike TWO!".&nbsp; The fact that his judgement was so poor that he got behind the wheel of a car at all when&nbsp;he was that stinking drunk&nbsp;is close to strike three, but given that a lot of people have done that, I guess we have to hold off a moment before sending him to the bench. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patsi45</strong></em><br /><br />It's amazing to me how many people who don't know Mel Gibson personally can judge him so harshly.&nbsp; That being said, I think he's an incredible actor and if his career is over (which I don't think it is) it would be huge loss.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just hope that he's gotten the help he needs and that he recovers all that he's lost.</td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 6:21pm<br /><br />It's amazing to me how many people who don't know Mel Gibson personally can judge him so harshly.&nbsp; That being said, I think he's an incredible actor and if his career is over (which I don't think it is) it would be huge loss.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just hope that he's gotten the help he needs and that he recovers all that he's lost.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 5:58pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">They won't </FONT></SPAN><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">rush</FONT></SPAN></U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"> to the theaters.But if it flops anyway it will be for the many reasons why a good movie would flop:limited release,bad marketing,people choosing the blockbuster instead,etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>I'm just saying,&nbsp;I highly doubt that anyone would pay to see a movie starring a a convited murderer or rapist in it. Granted, Gibson isn't either of those, but his public image is in the toilet and that's my whole point. Stars need to be well liked&nbsp;by the public if they want their careers to continue, but Gibson isn't well liked.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 5:29pm<br /><br /><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">They won't </font></span><u><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">rush</font></span></u><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"> to the theaters. But if BEAVER flops anyway, it will be for the many reasons a good movie can still flop: limited release, bad marketing, people choosing the blockbuster instead, etc.&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">This theory applies mostly when the controversial celebrity isn't an actor. That's why </font></span><b><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Roman Polanski</font></span></b><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">'s movies are still doing well: he's off-screen...unless you count his small role in RUSH HOUR 3.&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Michaels</strong></em><br /><br />Oh, I beg to differ. You seriously think that if a big name star were to be arrested on rape or murder charges and&nbsp;be sentenced to life in prison, that the studios would still put his/her last movie out and audiences would rush to the thearters to see it? No, my friend, that movie wouldn't see the light of day ever again. OJ Simpson had a few movies that were in post-production just before he was arrested, and they are probably inside a vault somewhere, collecting dust. The American public is only so forgiving.</td></tr></table></span></font></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 5:29pm<br /><br />I'll keep it short and sweet: Gibson's career is as dead as&nbsp;VHS and cassette tapes. Let's face it, people, even though every movie from the 1980s is being remade these days, it ain't the 1980s, and slowly but surely, every star from that era is going to fade away. Gibson just f***ed up too many times and made his star burn out faster than other's because of it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 4:29pm<br /><br />This movie continued to perform sluggishly at the box-office. It opened in 68 more theaters&nbsp;this weekend, including 1 here in Denver, but the per screen average was only $1120. Assuming the conservative estimate of 2 showings per screen daily, that means only about 50 people are attending each time it is shown. I suspect that a lot of people are still having trouble finding any place to see it, but even in reasonably large sized markets like Denver, the response appears to be underwhelming. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Just as a point of comparison, Pirates of the Caribbean made more money the first 9 times it was shown on any 1 screen&nbsp;in any 1 theater&nbsp;than Beaver has made in all the theaters&nbsp;it has&nbsp;played in put together over the course of 3 weeks.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 2:27pm<br /><br /><div>Oh, I beg to differ! Do you seriously think that if a big name star were to be arrested on rape or murder charges and&nbsp;be sentenced to life in prison, that the studios would still put his/her last movie out and audiences would rush to the thearters to see it? No, my friend, that movie wouldn't see the light of day ever again. OJ Simpson had a few movies that were in post-production just before he was arrested, and they are probably still locked up in a vault somewhere, collecting dust. The American public is only so forgiving. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by thomascarter</strong></em><br /><br /><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="line-height: 28px; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; font-size: medium; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">People don't avoid seeing a movie because it stars a controversial person, unless it's a bad movie(that's why&nbsp;<strong>Lindsay Lohan</strong>'s movies have flopped since '07, not because of her arrests, which is why she keeps getting fired)... well said</span></td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 12:26pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Thanks.</font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10184">thomascarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 12:19am<br /><br /><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 28px; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; font-size: medium; ">People don't avoid seeing a movie because it stars a controversial person, unless it's a bad movie(that's why&nbsp;<strong>Lindsay Lohan</strong>'s movies have flopped since '07, not because of her arrests, which is why she keeps getting fired)... well said&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10175">Bear88881</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 22 2011 at 5:24pm<br /><br />I'm surprised that anyone could &nbsp;still be interested in Mel at all. It's Jodie Foster we need to worry about. What was she thinking? Does she need some kind of intervention?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5043<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 21 2011 at 9:15pm<br /><br /><P>To Michaels: So you saw through that either spambot's or troll's accusations better than I did. I might add on to your rebuttals: If anyone were out to get celebrities&nbsp;of conservative Christianity or otherwise the Religious Reich, they would've torn Alex Kendrick apart. Instead, only we know his name. We added a forum for <EM>Fireproof</EM> as the worst new movie of 9-26-2<FONT color=#ff0000>008</FONT>, and I expect <EM>Courageous</EM> to be one of&nbsp;2 worst new movies for 9-23-2<FONT color=#999999>011</FONT>.</P>]]>
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