The Official RAZZIE® Forum : Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? http://www.razzies.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The Official RAZZIE® Forum : FINAL DESTINATION 3-D : Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? Sun, 19 May 2013 01:30:26 +0000 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:54:25 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.70 360 www.razzies.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3819 The Official RAZZIE® Forum http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_images/RazzieLogo02.gif http://www.razzies.com/forum/ Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Then maybe they should have stuck... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35477#35477 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 4:54pm

Then maybe they should have stuck with that structure.  Instead, they made the "half-assed-sleep-walked-through/you're-only-watching-to-see-what-creative-new-ways-we-can-kill-people-off-and-no-other-reason" movies that came after #2.]]> Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:54:25 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35477#35477 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : The 2nd film is arguably the... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35475#35475 Author: moviewizguy
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 1:23pm

The 2nd film is arguably the best in this series. It's the only one that has a different structure from all the others!
]]> Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:23:52 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35475#35475 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : I think the series died after... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35474#35474 Author: Vits
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 12:22pm

I think the series died after the first 2. The 2nd one may have been bad, but at least it gave some closure to the 1st one. After that, there was barely any continuity and or connections between the movies. If the plan for the last one is to tell us all the main characters from each movie will die no matter what, fine! But end the saga already! 

]]> Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:22:34 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35474#35474 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Again, notice the pattern? The... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35473#35473 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
Subject: 3819
Posted: October 25 2010 at 12:11pm

Again, notice the pattern? The sequels just keep getting worse. The first movie was okay, but they have been milking it for a decade now. And besides MWG, I don't know anyone who wants to see a 5th movie. To most people, the series died with the 4th one because it was utter s***.]]> Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:11:32 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35473#35473 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Spoilers ahead! It's so... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35471#35471 Author: Vits
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 11:54am

Spoilers ahead!

It's so easy to tell that this entire production was lazy and rushed. The characters are uninteresting, and the actors aren't awful, just bad(Bobby Campo is just copying Devon Sawa). The deaths are as shocking as always, but predictable, non-scary and barely cringe-worthy. The effects may be made for 3-D, but they're still fake looking. 
 
By having actual premonitions throughout the movie, this doesn't even feel like a FINAL DESTINATION film. By having another big and wise black guy as the side-kick, it feels like they're too desperate on to make it seem like the first one. Having everybody die at the end, instead of letting it remain ambigous, was OK when this was still the last one, but now they're making a 5th one. 

Let's just hope the crew for the new one is the same crew from FD I & III, rather than the crew from FD II & IV. 
 
This are my ratings for the saga:
I:7/10
II:1/10
III:5/10
IV:3/10
]]> Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:31 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=35471#35471 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : I'm just glad you've... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32090#32090 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
Subject: 3819
Posted: June 21 2010 at 5:06am

I'm just glad you've realized that not every movie is great, nor is every movie worth defending --Sometimes, movies are just plain BAD.]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:06:02 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32090#32090 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Well, I actually gave this film... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32085#32085 Author: moviewizguy
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Posted: June 20 2010 at 8:45pm

Well, I actually gave this film a 5/10. I rewatched the film, hoping it would be better, but nope. I hated it a lot more this time -- It's trash! 
]]> Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:45:58 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32085#32085 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Holy s***!!! Are my eyes playing... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32083#32083 Author: BurnHollywoodBurn
Subject: 3819
Posted: June 20 2010 at 5:43pm

Holy s***!!! Are my eyes playing tricks on me?! MWG gave a movie a score lower than a 6!!! Can it be? Is there hope for him yet? Hopefully, this will become common place. Wishful thinking, I know.

]]> Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:43:54 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32083#32083 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : I actually rewatched the film... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32079#32079 Author: moviewizguy
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Posted: June 20 2010 at 5:25pm

I actually rewatched the film and have now rewritten most of my previous review:

I would like to start off by saying I'm a fan of the FINAL DESTINATIONseries. Even the much maligned third film is starting to grow on me.When it was announced that David Ellis was returning to the directorchair (along with screenwriter Eric Bress), I was quite excited,considering that part two is arguably the best in the series. But thisone. If I were to describe this film in one word, I would sayDISAPPOINTING. In fact, this is one of the most disappointing movies ofthis year! The fact that the makers of part two has returned just addson to the frustration.

The film starts off pretty rushed. In fact, the film is rushedaltogether. You feel as if the filmmakers wanted to get through withthe film. The laziness is so apparent in here that you're wondering howmuch the executives offered in their salary. The film is so lazy thatthere are even glaring plot holes in the hackneyed script! How the helldoes a film that is based on something ridiculous have plot holes? Thefilm—better yet, the franchise, spends most of its time in setting uprules on the order people are going to die yet this film ignorespractically everything and kills people in any order it feels like!

Even the clever foreshadowing from the previous films is quite blatanthere. The laziness is also extended to the death scenes. Remember,quality, not quantity. Even though this film has the most death scenescompared to the previous entries, most of them suck and even that wordwouldn't give the deaths that much justice. We all have to admit itsooner or later but we see these films for the death scenes. What isthe freaking point in watching this film if they turn out to be lazy toan extent that some death scenes are rehashed from previous FD films?Exactly. There is no point.

Another problem about the death scenes is that there is barely anysuspense when people are about to get killed. Usually, in the FD films,seeing the set up of the Rube Goldberg-like death scenes IS thesuspense, but in here, they feel as if they come out of nowhere becauseof how rushed everything is. They're surprising, yes, but the surpriseswear off very quickly. Google up Alfred Hitchcock's definition of"suspense" to learn the difference between surprise and suspense.

Let's move on to the next problem: CGI. With the 3D technology, it'sobvious the filmmakers wanted to add more CGI effects so the imagescould pop out on the screen. The problem here is that the FINALDESTINATION series is always known for their practical effects. Thepremonition sequence in here works well in 3D, sure, but the CGI isterrible! They look so fake that I questioned how this film wasn'treleased direct to DVD.

You know you have a bad film when a franchise that was supposed to bescary and mysterious now turns into something that pokes fun of itself.It has happened many times before, most notably, the NIGHTMARE ON ELMSTREET franchise. It's as if the filmmakers were aware that thefranchise is dying and that their last attempt was to add self-awarecharacters and idiotic, dumb lines in the film with the many problemsthe film already has.

Even the characters are more like an excuse to kill them off later.It's apparent that this isn't a movie but more of a carnival ride,waiting to see who dies and how they will die. That's how low this filmhas gone. You'd also be surprised to find out that the most fleshed outcharacter is, in fact, not the protagonist, but a supporting character,played by Mykelti Williamson. He gives a laughable and forcedperformance but that's nothing compared to Bobby Campo, who is easilythe worst premonitionist in the franchise. He can't act to save hislife. And the less we say about the others, the better. However, I'mwilling to admit the only character I did feel sympathy for was playedby Krista Allen, who plays a motherly role with an extremely shortrunning time.

However, there are other few things that I liked about the film(emphasis on the word "few"): There's a sequence in a salon and a carwash that have at least SOME suspense. I don't know if this counts butI also liked the opening credits, which I thought was ingenious, amontage of the previous films' memorable death scenes. And that's aboutit. Three things. What an accomplishment!

I guess it isn't hard to tell but this is, by far, the weakest in theseries because there's nothing new. You'd expect that a mythology soeasily expandable would be explored here but no. By the end of thefilm, you feel underwhelmed. You wished they could have done better. Infact, you KNOW they could have done better. If they were to make afifth film, they better put some thought into it. If you're thinkingabout watching this movie only ONCE, you should see it in its intendedformat in 3D AND in theaters, but I don't see why anyone should wastetheir money on this film. 3/10
]]> Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:25:47 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=32079#32079 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by moviewizguyDid... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28492#28492 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 4:13pm

Originally posted by moviewizguy


Did I ever say you couldn't talk about it?
No. But considering "Trannies 2" is a bad movie and is considered a front-runner for Worst Picture, in the awards that these forums are devoted to, then I have the right to mention it as the worst movie of 2009 all I want.
]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:13:06 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28492#28492 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by MichaelsWell,... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28486#28486 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 3:48pm

Originally posted by Michaels

Well, gee, these are the Razzie forums, in which we talk about bad movies that are deserving to "win" our Razzie awards. "Trannies 2" was a bad movie that was all over the Razzie voting ballot and will also probably be announced more than once come tomorrow when the final nods are released. So, if this forum is about mocking bad movies, and "Trannies 2" is a bad movie, why can't I talk about it?


Did I ever say you couldn't talk about it?
]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:48:48 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28486#28486 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by dEd GrimleyDid... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28485#28485 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 3:48pm

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Did you see Trannies 2? Did you like it? I think we're talking about a far different case in point altogether.

No, it's actually the same case. Even though I liked or disliked the movie doesn't matter because it's still annoying but like I said earlier, I'm not complaining.
]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:48:00 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28485#28485 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Well, gee, these are the Razzie... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28471#28471 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:41am

Well, gee, these are the Razzie forums, in which we talk about bad movies that are deserving to "win" our Razzie awards. "Trannies 2" was a bad movie that was all over the Razzie voting ballot and will also probably be announced more than once come tomorrow when the final nods are released. So, if this forum is about mocking bad movies, and "Trannies 2" is a bad movie, why can't I talk about it?

]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:41:44 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28471#28471 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Did you see Trannies 2? Did you... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28470#28470 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:29am

Did you see Trannies 2? Did you like it? I think we're talking about a far different case in point altogether.]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:29:52 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28470#28470 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by dEd GrimleyIt's... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28469#28469 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:09am

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

It's not even about your opinion anymore, you've simply talked about it too much.

And why can't you just simply ignore what I say about Orphan? I don't see what the problem is. I've heard Michael complaining about Trannies 2 so much so that I wanted to punch a baby but you don't see me complaining now do you?
]]> Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:09:19 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28469#28469 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : It's not even about your... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28458#28458 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:17pm

It's not even about your opinion anymore, you've simply talked about it too much.]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:17:55 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28458#28458 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by dEd GrimleyThe... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28457#28457 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:13pm

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

The thing about Orphan is that there's no way I could possibly enjoy it after it's been so over-sold like this, and I've been tempted to rent it lately. Now I can't. Thanks MWG.

But why would you take my opinion seriously? I thought none of you took me seriously so me praising that film should really give you the opposing effect, which, through the course of events, will make you enjoy the movie.
]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:13:53 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28457#28457 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : The thing about Orphan is that... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28446#28446 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 2:43pm

The thing about Orphan is that there's no way I could possibly enjoy it after it's been so over-sold like this, and I've been tempted to rent it lately. Now I can't. Thanks MWG.]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:43:24 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28446#28446 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by moviewizguyActually,... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28442#28442 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 12:46pm

Originally posted by moviewizguy


Actually, if you look at the original Halloween and Nightmare on Elm St., they had "high" body counts, depending on the way you look at it. You take the number teens/characters that die in a movie over how many teens/characters there were. It's like proportion. Oh, and Orphan had like only three.
And the very first and original "Halloween" and "Nightmare" were fine they way they were, until a million sequels were made for each of them and it became a whole "what over the top ways can we kill people this time" deal.
 
Oh, and no one cares about "Orphan", it's not going to get any Oscar nods, give it up. My bet on it getting shut out still stands.
]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:46:46 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28442#28442 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : ... And neither of those movies... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28437#28437 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:05am

... And neither of those movies were actually scary.]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:05:13 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28437#28437 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by dEd GrimleyWell,... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28435#28435 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 7:41am

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Well, that depends on the horror movie. Most of the best ones have very little actual killing. In fact, it seems like the higher the body count, the less actual "horror" there is.

Actually, if you look at the original Halloween and Nightmare on Elm St., they had "high" body counts, depending on the way you look at it. You take the number teens/characters that die in a movie over how many teens/characters there were. It's like proportion. Oh, and Orphan had like only three.
]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:41:42 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28435#28435 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by dEd GrimleyWell,... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28430#28430 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 30 2010 at 6:17am

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Well, that depends on the horror movie. Most of the best ones have very little actual killing. In fact, it seems like the higher the body count, the less actual "horror" there is.
Ah, yes, but those days are long gone. Instead now we have nothing but killings and we have these teenagers sworing up and down that it's just as good and entertaining and deserves to be produced.]]> Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:17:56 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28430#28430 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Well, that depends on the horror... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28425#28425 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 29 2010 at 8:52pm

Well, that depends on the horror movie. Most of the best ones have very little actual killing. In fact, it seems like the higher the body count, the less actual "horror" there is.]]> Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:52:20 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28425#28425 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by moviewizguyIf... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28420#28420 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 29 2010 at 7:17pm

Originally posted by moviewizguy

If you actually read my post, you would have noticed it was a continuation of audience's fascination on violence on that other thread. I was in no way defending the movie like you say I am.
Come on, why else does anyone go see a horror movie in 3-D? The acting? The well fleshed out characters? The multi-layered plot? No, you go to see the killing in 3-D. The murders in horror movies are like the sex scenes in pornos, without them, there's no point to the movie. The 3-D is just a gimmick to make extra money.
]]> Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:17:34 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28420#28420 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : If you actually read my post,... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28415#28415 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 29 2010 at 5:37pm

If you actually read my post, you would have noticed it was a continuation of audience's fascination on violence on that other thread. I was in no way defending the movie like you say I am.]]> Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:37:26 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28415#28415 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : MWG, you do realize the only reason... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28400#28400 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 28 2010 at 6:13pm

MWG, you do realize the only reason why this movie made so much money is because of the 3-D surcharges, right? You yourself said it was a disappoint. Do yourself a favor, and stop defending this movie. The studio has not out to make a good movie out of this series any more, they are just making sequels to suck more money out of teenagers' wallets and the whole 3-D thing was the gimmick they needed.]]> Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:13:57 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28400#28400 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Here's a good quote from... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28398#28398 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 28 2010 at 5:42pm

Here's a good quote from the producer of the film on how people view violence and how that affected the way they set the tone for this film:

“We’ve had a problem with the kids being really gloomy and moody inthe past, and although I would never pull back on the violence or blackcomic elements, I think it was important to show that this generationhas a slightly different view of violence. Look how kids captureeverything that happens on their cell phones and upload it to YouTube.There’s more of a care-free ambivalence to the whole thing. It’s thewhole “Jackass” where they film each-other getting hit by cars andlaughing in the background. Part of the fun will be having these kidstake it slightly lighter in the beginning, and then as it gets closerto them… they start to acknowledge the reality of the situation.”
]]> Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:42:49 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28398#28398 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : I'm not really sure how Trannies... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28284#28284 Author: dEd Grimley
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 25 2010 at 6:12pm

I'm not really sure how Trannies or GI Blow factors in, other than they probably weren't as comically bad as Chris Klein in SF:LoCL. But that's one of those things where only he really deserves the award.

Here's my new award though, let's Razz the entire year of 2009. It was probably the worst year that most of us will see in our lifetimes. Movies and otherwise.]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:12:43 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28284#28284 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : Originally posted by GTAHater767I... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28278#28278 Author: Michaels
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 25 2010 at 5:58pm

Originally posted by GTAHater767

I went through the late third of 2009 thinking this was among the worst films of the year. My friends agreed. I hoped it had some chance at Worst Picture, but does this movie have any redeeming qualities? (please answer without citing Revenge of the Fallen and The Rise of Cobra if at all possible!)
I can't mention any 80s cartoons being ruined by H-Wood for profit?! Damn it! Okay, um .... "Street Fighter: Legend of Chung-Li" .... if enough people write-in vote it. As for redeeming qualities, no, there are none.]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:58:49 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28278#28278 Final Destination: INADVERTENT HUMOR?!? : I went through the late third... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28269#28269 Author: GTAHater767
Subject: 3819
Posted: January 25 2010 at 2:43pm

I went through the late third of 2009 thinking this was among the worst films of the year. My friends agreed. I hoped it had some chance at Worst Picture, but does this movie have any redeeming qualities? (please answer without citing Revenge of the Fallen and The Rise of Cobra if at all possible!)]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:43:05 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3819&PID=28269#28269