The Official RAZZIE® Forum : FIREPROOF http://www.razzies.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The Official RAZZIE® Forum : FIREPROOF : Last 10 Posts Sat, 18 May 2013 06:24:32 +0000 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:32:26 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.70 30 www.razzies.com/forum/RSS_topic_feed.asp?FID=289 The Official RAZZIE® Forum http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_images/RazzieLogo02.gif http://www.razzies.com/forum/ FIREPROOF : Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE! http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=52765#52765 Author: Vits
Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: November 12 2012 at 2:32pm

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Any thoughts?
Originally posted by batman39

Even Christians that are critical of their own movies almost always see
three shortcomings in them. Acting,screenplay and cinematography. I am
a Christian but don't go to them because of these. I have seen Facing the
Giants,which was sluggish at first but got better and was a solid movie.
This one is a solid movie too,the acting is far better than most of
Christian Cinema. It is worthwhile because marriage is worth saving in
some cases,in others,they are probably hopeless.

The two leads in Fireproof are solid.   It is nice to see something where
what you are seeing is not perverse claptrap like Before the Devil Knows
You're Dead. Where family members eventually treat each of with respect
and not contempt.

I didn't find the movie preachy,just a solid movie with a good message.
You lost me when you basically said that BTDKYD is bad for not being afraid of going where most movies don't go.
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Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: July 12 2011 at 3:59pm

Tiny little violins are playing for you.  Lots of them.  

Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

ONE of the MOST UNPLEASANT MOVIE-GOING MEMORIES of MY LIFETIME WAS WHEN a SUPPOSED "FRIEND" INVITED ME to a SNEAK PREVIEW of a "NEW MOVIE" -- WHICH TURNED OUT to HAVE BEEN FINANCED by BILLY GRAHAM as a "CHRISTIAN RECRUITING" DEVICE. WHEN the MOVIE ENDED and the LIGHTS CAME UP, a CHURCH SPOKESMAN at the FRONT of the THEATRE IMPLORED EVERYONE WHO HAD "SEEN CHRIST" AS a RESULT of WATCHING the FILM "PLEASE COME FORWARD." MY "FRIEND" THEN TURNED to ME WITH a LOOK ON HER FACE I WILL NEVER FORGET...OR FORGIVE.

It didn't "masquerade" as anything.  They (the Kendrick Brothers) freely admitted who they were, what the movies was about and what the purpose of it was.  They've never done otherwise with any of their films.

AS AN AGNOSTIC MYSELF, I FREELY ADMIT I PLAN to AVOID THIS FILM. BUT I COULDN'T RESIST, GIVEN ITS "TRUE PURPOSE" (IT'S BASICALLY a PRO-CHRISTIAN/ANTI-DIVORCE DIATRIBE MASQUERADING as a FAMILY DRAMA) "HONORING" IT as THIS WEEK's WORST of the WEAK PICK...


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Subject: Early Discussion of FIREPROOF
Posted: July 12 2011 at 3:48pm

It found over 900 theaters willing to play it...  

Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

As such, I'll be interested to see if it can actually find 1,000 theatres willing to book it next fall...
 


Originally posted by Michaels

Preachy, heavily Christian-themed movies starring Kirk Cameron are even more annoying.

 


Moviegoers disagreed.  The film opened in 4th place and went on to make $33.5 million at the box office.
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Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: August 02 2010 at 8:30pm

Originally posted by GTAHater767

There's little I hate more in this world than conservative Christians. I ask some religious sects that condemn divorce this: If a man should be married, and he has only one chance, and they pick the wrong significant other, apparently it's mandatory that their life be ruined by picking the wrong lover because divorce is against these people. In that case, is marriage even worth it?
Well, you have to consider that in religious sects, it doesn't matter if your marriage is failing, so long as you're fruitful and raise your children to be loyal followers of the sect as well. In the end, they just want you to help produce more memebers for their little cults, rather than having to go out and convince people to join them.]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:30:59 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=33588#33588 FIREPROOF : Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE! http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=33584#33584 Author: GTAHater767
Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: August 02 2010 at 7:02pm

There's little I hate more in this world than conservative Christians. I ask some religious sects that condemn divorce this: If a man should be married, and he has only one chance, and they pick the wrong significant other, apparently it's mandatory that their life be ruined by picking the wrong lover because divorce is against these people. In that case, is marriage even worth it?]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:02:00 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=33584#33584 FIREPROOF : Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE! http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=30432#30432 Author: Vits
Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: March 22 2010 at 2:43pm

I swear that,when I saw a few seconds on it on TV,I thought it was a TV-movie from Lifetime or somethin'.After all,that's the best former child stars can achieve.

B.T.W.,R.I.P. Corey Haim.
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Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: January 27 2009 at 10:06am

What really surprised me is that this film actually made money.

I guess keeping the faith worked for this film!

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Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: November 29 2008 at 10:38am

Saw the movie in theaters. HeadRazz, this really deserves the nomination. Everything reminded me of a boring cliché film. The wife, the lead actress, the story, etc.

Yet there were some good actors in here. Why they chose to star in this is beyond me.

I would nominate this movie for the following:
WORST PICTURE
WORST ACTOR (KIRK CAMERON)
WORST ACTRESS (ERIN BETHEA)
WORST SCREEN COUPLE (KIRK CAMERON AND EITHER ERIN BETHEA (the wife) or CHELSEA NOBLE (the look-alike wife in the kissing scene)
WORST SCREENPLAY and WORST DIRECTORS (ALEX & STEPHEN KENDRICK)
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Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: November 29 2008 at 10:05am

My agnostic brother showed me a clip of this movie involving salt and pepper shakers. It's f*cking hysterical, we're seeing it when it comes to DVD.]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:05:14 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=19241#19241 FIREPROOF : Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE! http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3114&PID=18890#18890 Author: cvcjr13
Subject: Jesus, Kirk Cameron Must Be DESPERATE!
Posted: November 11 2008 at 2:02pm

Originally posted by Michaels

Well, making any kind of faith-based movie is a tricky thing. You have to make it A) Family friendly (unless it's "Passion of the Christ", then you're hoping for all the hardcore Catholics to show up). B) Entertaining, because that's what movies are suppose to do in the first place. C) Be of good quality, because you'll fail if your movie is just "Plan 9" with Christian overtunes. and D) Don't be preachy, if people want to be preached to, they'll save their money and just go to church. Personally, I think religion has such a strong following, there's really no need for it to be in popular culture. Like seperation of church and state, I think there should be a seperation of church and all forms of media.

Bravo, Michaels.  I think you've summed it up quite well.

To my best memory, the best "Christian" film remains Chariots of Fire, and I don't recall a single Christian involved in that endeavor.

I dropped by to point out a little detail over at Box Office Mojo.  The budget for Fireproof is listed at $500,000.  The box office appears headed to break $30 million.  That's 60 times production with only domestic box office (nothing on plans for the foreign market; doubt it will do well there).  In short, this genre appears to be a moneymaker, and unless the movie industry has suddenly discovered it has a scruple or two, we will see more movies of the same quality as this one.

One Night with the King tried to be a good movie, but it had so many flaws. 

Although Before the Devil Knows You're Dead is not a religious movie, since batman39 brought it up again, I'll restate that I felt that was a good movie.  Although dealing with very difficult themes, one of which is financial desperation, which is very applicable to many people's lives today.  Still, Raising Arizona may be a better movie to drive home many of the same points. . . .

 

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