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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 15 2012 at 1:02pm<br /><br />The AVClub did a Commentary Tracks of the Damned entry on this. Apparantly, Andrew Stanton went mad with power and spent money on frivolous things. LINK: <a href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/john-carters-commentary-track-showcases-three-film,86634/" target="_blank">http://www.avclub.com/articles/john-carters-commentary-track-showcases-three-film,86634/</a>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 14 2012 at 2:41pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Skip to 04:06.</font><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">&#091;TUBE&#093;M3-wRGv-sl8&#091;/TUBE&#093;<br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Any thoughts?</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER :  Originally posted by whatsthepointFunny...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 13 2012 at 7:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by whatsthepoint</strong></em><br /><br /><BR>Funny because SchumacherH8ter''s review doesn't even reflect the public's opinion of the film. At least that's the opinion I got from reading all of those highly positive Amazon.com reviews of the movie (which waits it's score at 4.5). Sure Amazon is only a website, but a lot of people buy from it, and obviously most customers who purchased/saw the movie were more than pleased.<BR><BR>Also I'm glad I saw it in theaters. Seeing it on DVD again, reminded me of underrated it really was. Not forgettable in the least. <BR><BR>I don't mind that people dislike it, but if someone calls it crap, I won't be afraid to defend it. <BR></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>The most irrelevant possible collection of reviews you could offer would be those of the people who purchased it at Amazon. How many people do you think purchased the DVD unless they saw it&nbsp;and liked it in the theaters? However, I went to Amazon and checked the most recent ratings. The DVD received 5121 reviews. Out of those, 917 gave it 4 out of 5 stars, 1235 gave it 3, 1280 gave it 2 and 1289 gave it 1. I'm not sure in what universe that averages out to 4.5, but close to 60% of the respondents rated it 2 stars or less. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><BR>ADDENDUM: There was more than one link for this DVD at Amazon. Curiously enough after going back and taking another look, I found several different review ratings. The one I cited above remains the largest sample, which tends to lead me to trust it as the most accurate of purchasers' opinion. However, I find this a curious credibility issue with Amazon's ratings.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER : Cinematic Method doesn&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 06 2012 at 6:29pm<br /><br /><div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><a href="http://cinematicmethod.com/dvd-round-up-safe-house-john-carter-journey-2/" target="_blank"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Cinematic Method doesn't recommend it... I think.</font></a></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by moviewizguy</strong></em><br /><br />Here's an interesting article about John Carter. The writer doesn't think the film itself is brilliant, but he provides some interesting points as to why it's not a bad film:&nbsp;<a href="http://io9.com/5894393/the-fact-the-lorax-is-a-hit-and-john-carter-is-a-flop-makes-me-want-to-stab-everybody" target="_blank">http://io9.com/5894393/the-fact-the-lorax-is-a-hit-and-john-carter-is- a-flop-makes-me-want-to-stab-everybody</a></td></tr></table></div></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">One complain about the article: the writer mentioned their Rotten Tomatoes scores, but only among top critics.</font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 06 2012 at 3:33pm<br /><br /><p>I don't care about reflecting the opinion of the public. I do care about expressing my own opinion and my opinion is that John Carter wasn't a very good movie.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 06 2012 at 3:29pm<br /><br />Here's an interesting article about John Carter. The writer doesn't think the film itself is brilliant, but he provides some interesting points as to why it's not a bad film:&nbsp;<a href="http://io9.com/5894393/the-fact-the-lorax-is-a-hit-and-john-carter-is-a-flop-makes-me-want-to-stab-everybody" target="_blank">http://io9.com/5894393/the-fact-the-lorax-is-a-hit-and-john-carter-is- a-flop-makes-me-want-to-stab-everybody</a>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER :     Funny because SchumacherH8ter&amp;#039;&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 06 2012 at 12:43pm<br /><br /><br>Funny because SchumacherH8ter''s review doesn't even reflect the public's opinion of the film. At least that's the opinion I got from reading all of those highly positive Amazon.com reviews of the movie (which waits it's score at 4.5). Sure Amazon is only a website, but a lot of people buy from it, and obviously most customers who purchased/saw the movie were more than pleased.<br><br>Also I'm glad I saw it in theaters. Seeing it on DVD again, reminded me of underrated it really was. Not forgettable in the least. <br><br>I don't mind that people dislike it, but if someone calls it crap, I won't be afraid to defend it. <br>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER : John Carter wasn&amp;#039;t Razzie...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 05 2012 at 8:00pm<br /><br />John Carter wasn't Razzie material, but it was at best a rather complete waste of 2 hours of my life and on the whole, utterly forgetable. A tip of the hat here to SchumacherH8ter for a spot on review.]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER : Good point.As of right now, the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 02 2012 at 6:45pm<br /><br /><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Good point.</font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">As of right now, the movie has grossed back its budget worldwide. Unless you focus on domestic grosses only, this is no longer among the biggest flops.</font></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter</strong></em><br /><br />Why was Ciaran Hinds in this? Why does it feel like he's in everything?</td></tr></table><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">He's a character actor.</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER : It wasn&amp;#039;t that, most people...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 02 2012 at 5:48pm<br /><br /><br>It wasn't that, most people say the trailers weren't very well done. In turn however most people I know of said they were pleasantly surprised as a result since they thought it was going to suck.&nbsp; <br>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER :    That theory is very interesting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 01 2012 at 1:16pm<br /><br /><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">That theory is very interesting and most likely true. Like the article said (and HeadRAZZ also said in this Forum) the problem for JOHN CARTER was the title. Although you can't trust the younger generation to know about the old source material, hearing the title BATTLESHIP at least you have some idea of what it's about. Also, their trailers had probelms. The one for BATTLESHIP played up similarities to TRANSFORMERS, but the one for CARTER showed some of the details that audiences would assume were&nbsp;ripped-off</font><font color="#009900" face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">*</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"> from other movies (mainly PRINCE OF PERSIA) making it look less exciting.<br><br></font><font color="#009900" face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">*</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">I know, the book was written in 1912, but you have to know the risks. If you're worried about adapting something 100 years old, knowing that it's likely to look unoriginal, then don't adapt it. &nbsp;</font><br><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"><br></font></div>]]>
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   <title>Forum Members&#039; Discussion of JOHN CARTER :  RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">HeadRAZZBerry</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 01 2012 at 12:45pm<br /><br /><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b><font color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>Here's a <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2012/05/how-did-battleship-escape-the-john-carter-flop-furor-.html" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>LINK</u></b></font></a> to read a berry interesting article in <i>The L.A. Times</i> (the movie industry's Local Paper of Record) asking why JOHN CARTER got an avalanche of bad publicity when it bombed, while BATTLESHIP (whose b.o. and budget numbers are berry similar -- and which also, coincidentally, stars <b>Taylor Kitsch</b>) got away almost scott free... &nbsp;</font><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 31 2012 at 5:22pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">I just saw it.</font><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">To answer the poll... No, it shouldn't be nominated for Worst Picture. Worst Actor? Maybe. <b>Taylor Kitsch</b> wasn't that bad, but I'll wait until I see BATTLESHIP to decide. Worst 3D? Although I didn't see it in 3D, the shots seemed like they must've looked good. But those who actually see it in 3D have to decide.</font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Is this the world we live in? Why is it that the highest grossing movies tend to be the best and the not that bad, while the worst and the not that good (like this) are the flops? This is a masterpiece compared to most live-action Disney movies. It sends a wrong message.</font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2012 at 5:45am<br /><br />I give John Carter a Bt&nbsp; (it was awesome). A much better movie than you make it out to be (At least in my opinion).<br><br>Also Stanton being involved in the marketing, is only a rumor, and I thought his direction was quite fine. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 22 2012 at 7:05pm<br /><br />Time to rip into John Carter. Before I do though, I'll note this: It's easily the best movie I'm reviewing this week. Especially since the rest of this week's&nbsp;movies&nbsp;all get F's!<div>&nbsp;</div><div>The first scene where John discovers he can jump well is handled well. I actually got excited for it. The special effects are handled well here as well. The Tharks look great. Some of the action scenes are good like the end fight.&nbsp;And, I'd be negligent if I didn't mention that Woola, John's alien-dog thing, is the best character in the movie. He deserves a better movie to be in than this.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Lynn Collins is kinda stiff as Dejah, a Martian princess. She has some funny faces though. The screenplay is surprisingly bland when you consider that one of the writers has a Pulitzer. The film has one of the biggest non "mo-crap" examples of "uncanny valley" in recent memory with the Thark babies. They look ugly and their cries are scarier than some horror movie villains.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Taylor Kitsch gives one of the blandest performances in ages. He seems rather non-plussed about seeing a giant green alien. He's not as bad as he was in Battleship, but that's not saying much. I thought that he was decent in that sh*tty Wolverine spin-off though. The 3-D here isn't at the same level as Clash Of The Titans, Green Lantern, or Last Airbender, but it's close. The pacing here is even worse than in Three Musketeers. It's two hours 12 minutes, but feels closer to three hours. But almost all the blame can be laid at Andrew Stanton's feet. His direction is&nbsp;realy crappy&nbsp;and he "helped" with the marketing that killed the film.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Why was Ciaran Hinds in this? Why does it feel like he's in everything? Grade: C-</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Next-up: The Vow!</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9875">jesse685</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 20 2012 at 6:17pm<br /><br /><P><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">I thought it was too.</FONT></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 20 2012 at 4:30pm<br /><br /><br>Moviewizguy I am in agreement with you. John Carter was fantastic. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 19 2012 at 6:51pm<br /><br />I just saw this film and have to say this: I think people are out to get Taylor Kitsch. This man can't get himself a break, with <b>John Carter</b> and now with<b> Battleship</b>. The film itself was fantastic. I rarely have the feeling of overwhelming joy like I did when I saw <b>John Carter</b>. The story was&nbsp;mesmerizing, and after the credits rolled, I immediately regret not watching it in theaters. I suspect the experience would have been even better and more immersive. If films like <b>John Carter</b>&nbsp;are ignored by the audience, this is probably why we can't have good films.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 25 2012 at 12:27pm<br /><br />Yes, but the originals were filled with biting satires...priceless stuff]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 25 2012 at 12:21pm<br /><br />Agreed. The less said about The New Adventures Of Beany And Cecil the better.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 25 2012 at 12:16pm<br /><br />Bob Clampett was great....Beanie and Cecil is still absolutely classic<DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">JoeBacon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 25 2012 at 11:50am<br /><br />Here's a clip of Bob Clampett's proposed John Carter cartoon he worked on back in the 30s. Frankly, it probably would have been more interesting if he had been able to get the backing to do this in the 30s. He would have beaten Disney to make the first animated feature. Oh, what could had been...<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAlgZlqwnQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAlgZlqwnQ</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 25 2012 at 6:00am<br /><br />Joe, folks like you and I grew up with the John Carter stories and we had the luxury of suspension of disbelief. But the world has changed a lot and these days, it is pretty hard for sci-fi to stay out in front of science. If you want modern audiences to buy into your story, Mars is now too familiar to work.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">JoeBacon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2012 at 4:53pm<br /><br />I came back from seeing it. I thought there were parts where it got drawn out describing Martian society, but it sure wasn't something that "broke the mold" for me (like the original Star Wars in 1977). I do believe this is the 21st Century equivalent to the Liz Taylor Cleopatra -- lots of cash spent, you can see where the money went on screen, but it will probably take decades to break even.&nbsp;<div id="myWatcherDiv" style="display:n&#111;ne;"></div><div><br></div><div>Head Razz is right that the marketing team really sucked dead elephant dicks. As a kid who grew up reading the original Burroughs books, what I saw on the screen was a let-down (just as I was let down by the Johnny Weissmueller movies/Ron Ely Tarzan Movies/TV shows). But then, I also read Lowell/Wells/Bradbury books, I was fascinated seeing Mars in my telescope, thinking that Ray Walston was up there. But, that's how I felt as a kid.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Nowadays, youngsters have no clue about the original Burroughs books. Maybe this would have made more sense if Bob Clampett had found the financing to do his animated John Carter feature back in the 30s/40s.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2012 at 2:30pm<br /><br />&#091;Post deleted&#093;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 22 2012 at 5:56pm<br /><br />As I mentioned on the last page, the only nomination I can see this getting is Worst Actor for Taylor Kitsch, and that's only because he's also going to be in Battlesh*t.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 22 2012 at 4:51pm<br /><br />And yet I shrug everytime I see that poll and find that the whole It is a Razzie/ It is Not a Razzie vote is almost identical. <br><br>I just hope it gets no Razzie nominations (I really don't think it's that likely). I could understand when Green Lantern was up for consideration, but if JC somehow manages to get nominated, I would puzzled as to why. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 22 2012 at 11:08am<br /><br />Have you even bothered to read the posts in this thread, whats? So far, <EM>nobody </EM>that has offered an opinion has expressed the affirmative view that it should be seriously considered for Worst Picture. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><FONT style=": #e9dbb1"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">Head Razz merely offered the question as to whether or not a film that bombed this bad at the box-office should be considered. It apppears that the consensus is no.</FONT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2012 at 8:53pm<br /><br /><br>I can't believe some of you people. Who the f honestly thinks this picture should even be considered for the Razzies? I don't see why this thread was approved in the first place?<br><br>Being a bomb (also that 200 million loss is not the final number, that is only Disney) is the worst excuse to have a picture be nominated. It it did get nominated, it would only add a blow to the Razzie's being credible. This is the worst Hollywood has to offer, not the biggest money-losers Hollywood has to offer.<br><br>Besides looking at the poll is flat out embarrassing. A film shouldn't be looked at based off it's box office, but by how much you enjoyed it. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5814<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2012 at 11:53am<br /><br />To make money, a movie has to double its budget and advertising costs. That's why Disney is saying it may lose $200 million instead of $80 million, Miguel.]]>
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