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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! :  I just saw it.You know how you...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 26 2011 at 12:17pm<br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it.</font><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">You know how you ask a little kid "What do you think would be a good idea for a movie?",and the they say one,and you say "But that's been done before"?That's how basic the plot is.And it's not like INDEPENDENCE DAY.They do copy the design of the UFO's(except they glow blue instead of orange)and <font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#ffffff">it's fight against the army jets</font>,and also a few times where they <font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#ffffff">play patriotic music because they think they won</font>.Is mostly WAR OF THE WORLDS.The characters just hide the whole movie and get attacked by the octopus-looking aliens* every couple of minutes.It also has signs of trying to be like a teen slasher flick(keep in mind these sometimes have college students,and the characters here could be in their early '20s).</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Although the beginning introduces us to the characters,it's not enough to know who they really are.Not to mention that it was pointless because the characters weren't developed.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">The effects are good enough to prevent this from being among the worst of the year,but that doesn't mean it's good.The dialogue is cheesy and the performances are bad.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Why couldn't they end it when <font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#ffffff"><b>JARROD</b> &amp; <b>ELAINE </b>are sent to the ship while their kissing?All they had to do was show the entire city/country/planet being invaded with a <b>Michael Bay</b> montage(they use one in the movie already)?</font>It would've been tragic and honest,but everything that happens afterwards is unnecessary.Most people think it was a set-up for a sequel.For me,it was a set-up for a saga(at least 4 movies!).</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I give it 3/10.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">*Why do all movie aliens lately look like that?!</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! :   Originally posted by TheMovieCriticThis...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 08 2010 at 8:49am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by TheMovieCritic</strong></em><br /><br />This movie makes Independence Day look like a masterpiece compared to this terrible film and thats saying something. <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" align="middle" /></td></tr></table><br>Yeah, when you can make the tissue paper thin plot and characters of "ID4" looks good, wow, you did something seriously wrong!<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9175">TheMovieCritic</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 07 2010 at 11:27am<br /><br />This movie makes Independence Day look like a masterpiece compared to this terrible film and thats saying something. <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! :    Originally posted by cvcjr13 So,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 27 2010 at 5:24pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><div>So, the effects were "nice", but they were very dated.</div></td></tr></table><br>I'm a little more amazed that the movie was greenlit in the first place, rather than the fact it only cost $10 million to make. I mean, it was written by a bunch of guys who ONLY past experience in movies were in SFX and CGI!<br>]]>
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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! :  Originally posted by Razziedent...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 26 2010 at 6:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Razziedent Evil</strong></em><br /><br />Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Actually, I talked with a game programmer after we watched the movie, and mentioned that it only cost $10 million.&nbsp; His response was, "It showed."</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So, the effects were "nice", but they were very dated.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 26 2010 at 4:00pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Razziedent Evil</strong></em><br /><br />Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...</td></tr></table><br>When critics are saying your movie makes Saturday Night Sy-Fy Channel TV movies or movies from the "mockbuster" studio The Asylum look good by comparison, you have a BIG problem!<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9163">Razziedent Evil</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 26 2010 at 2:35pm<br /><br />Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 25 2010 at 7:37am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br /><img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> Kmart shopper hypno beam!&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I. . . MUST. . . BUY. . . SPECIAL. . . I. . . MUST. . . BUY. . . SPECIAL. . . I'LL. . . GIVE. . . MY. . . LEFT. . . BRAIN. . . FOR. . . IT. . . <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley34.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Nuke" title="Nuke" /></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 25 2010 at 7:05am<br /><br /><img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> Kmart shopper hypno beam!&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! : You&amp;#039;ve seen supporting actress...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 24 2010 at 11:04pm<br /><br />You've seen supporting actress Brittany Daniels before.&nbsp; She was in <strong><EM>White Chicks</EM></strong> and <strong><EM>Little Man</EM></strong>, playing a very dumb blond white woman.&nbsp; She's still playing that role in this movie. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You may have seen supporting actor David Zayas before.&nbsp; He played General Garza in <strong><EM>The Expendables</EM></strong>.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You may think you have seen lead actor Eric Balfour before, but no, you haven't, unless you're an avid fan of <strong><EM>24</EM></strong>.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And you know you haven't seen lead actress Scottie Thompson before, and yes, Scottie is a she.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>These actors, along with supporting actor Donald Faison and a number of others, find themselves trapped into reciting some of the worst dialog I have witnessed outside of a movie made for the SyFy channel.&nbsp; The fact that this movie cost $10 million to make and shows it doesn't even come close to being as bad as the mind-numbingly bland dialog.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mind you, this doesn't excuse Balfour for confusing a difficult bowel movement with showing absolute fear and bewilderment.&nbsp; Of course, he isn't the first male actor to make this mistake, but you'd think the word would have gotten around by now. . . .</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know, I usually start my reviews with the good things in this movie.&nbsp; Okay, here they are.&nbsp; Scottie Thompson performed surprisingly well considering the crappy dialog she was handed.&nbsp; And the scene you see in the trailer where the alien machine smashes the car going out of the garage was pretty cool.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That's it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>SPOILER</FONT></DIV><DIV>And I have no problem spoiling what's already spoiled.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Probably the only thing that's worse about this movie than the&nbsp;unimaginative dialog and the hokey special effects and production&nbsp;is that Balfour's Jarrod and Thompson's Elaine survive.&nbsp; That is, if you can follow the little figurines (or are they drawings?) at the end of the movie, and see the alien who took Jarrod's brain and is now possessed by Jarrod carrying Elaine off to. . . where?&nbsp; They're on an alien craft way on up in the sky.&nbsp; Going back to the production, it comes to mind&nbsp;that the models behind the end credits were used because they ran out of money.&nbsp; Why else would they forgo what would have been the best fight scene in the movie?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And, oh yes, Balfour's character's name is Jarrod.&nbsp; That alien who took his brain should feel special.&nbsp; He received the best.&nbsp; His brain came from Jarrod's. . . .</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So, back to the top.&nbsp; Earth's humans are being harvested by alien spacecraft and machines using a blue light that makes you feel great and strong just before it sucks you up into the spacecraft.&nbsp; Jarrod got way more than just a little taste of the blue light special, but before he started waltzing down that Kmart aisle to donate his brain to his favorite alien, he was tackled down by Faison's Terry.&nbsp; This meant that Balfour had to endure the rest of the script.&nbsp; And Terry was supposed to be Jarrod's friend. . . .</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The exposure effected Jarrod, to where he is changing into something other than human.&nbsp; Elaine&nbsp;is exposed later on, too.&nbsp; However,&nbsp;either she didn't stare at&nbsp;the blue cooker long enough, or else that few-months-old kicker in her tummy took away all of mommy's baby blues. . . .</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Everyone is expendable, and expended they are, and as a member of the audience, you can't wait for them to be expended.&nbsp; When Zayas' hotel manager-cum-survivalist says that&nbsp;"this" can't go on forever, my response is, "I sure hope not!"&nbsp; You'll hope not only is the Earth vanquished and all humanity has their brains popped in and out of aliens like alkaline batteries, but you'll alos&nbsp;hope a black hole opens up and sucks up all the aliens, too.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><EM>Skyline</EM></strong>&nbsp;is that painfully bad.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><EM>Skyline</EM></strong> is also often slow-paced and dreary.&nbsp; For a supposed action movie, there were many times I'd actually laugh at how much nothing I was watching.&nbsp;&nbsp;On top of the slow pacing, &nbsp;they really didn't give us any likable characters, except Elaine <EM>maybe</EM>.&nbsp; Why should we care about any of them?&nbsp; I mean, they do dumb things like keep looking out windows when they know one look at the blue light makes them Kmart shoppers.&nbsp; They keep going outside when they know the aliens will nab them, which isn't half as bad as watching them go round and round and up and down the 20 story hotel over and over.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Oh, and for HeadRAZZ, I must mention that the movie has a flashback right after the opening sequence.&nbsp; It only has one, though.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Razzie suggestions:&nbsp; Worst Picture, Worst Director (Greg &amp; Colin Strause, a.k.a. "the Strause brothers"&nbsp;- special effects men who are responsible for <EM><strong>Alien vs. Predator: The Requiem</strong></EM>), Worst Screenplay, Worst Actor (Eric Balfour), Worst Supporting Actress (Brittany Daniel), Worst Supporting Actor (David Zayas), Worst Ensemble, Worst Couple - Eric Balfour's brain and his new alien body</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits! :  Originally posted by cvcjr13 Hey,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 23 2010 at 11:41am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>Hey, at one time, most people thought the world was flat, too, but it's still round.&nbsp; Look to the facts, not just to what people may think or feel.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Besides, <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong>, <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong> and <strong><EM>Friday the 13th</EM></strong> were extremely successful and are hardly unknown, even for those who weren't even born when they came out who haven't saw them yet.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If I had to pick between the three to suggest one, I'd pick <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong>, hands down.&nbsp; Carpenter perfected jump scares with that one, and it's a lot better than Rob Zombie's remake.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>Okay, man,&nbsp;I get! "Alien" wasn't the first to use that theme! I'm just saying, from MY personal experience, it seems "Alien" is the first movie people think of when that theme is mentioned, even if it wasn't the first to use it.&nbsp;Mind you, I'm also saying "monster". If I were to say "serial killer", "TCSM" or "Halloween" would probably be the first to named instead.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 23 2010 at 7:03am<br /><br /><DIV>Hey, at one time, most people thought the world was flat, too, but it's still round.&nbsp; Look to the facts, not just to what people may think or feel.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Besides, <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong>, <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong> and <strong><EM>Friday the 13th</EM></strong> were extremely successful and are hardly unknown, even for those who weren't even born when they came out who haven't saw them yet.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If I had to pick between the three to suggest one, I'd pick <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong>, hands down.&nbsp; Carpenter perfected jump scares with that one, and it's a lot better than Rob Zombie's remake.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Well, 1. Half of those horror movies, I haven't seen or didn't knwo they started in the 70s. 2. "Alien", for some reason, is the first movie that jumps into people's minds whenever someone mentions "monster killing people off one by one". Granted, it wasn't the first movie to do that theme, but it seems to be the one that sticks with people the most.&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 7:51pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>But now you're changing the argument.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Face it, TCSM was the first, and it was wildly successful.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Halloween was a John Carpenter film.&nbsp; I wouldn't classify John Carpenter films as lucky indie projects.&nbsp; And it spawned several sequels.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Friday the 13th spawned even more sequels, most of which were successful (no, Friday the 13th VII: Jason Takes Manhattan was not one of the successful ones) and it was a Paramount production, not an indie production.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I will allow you this: of all of them <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> was the better film, and its first sequel, <strong><EM>Aliens</EM></strong>, was even better.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>But don't go saying <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> started it all, or that it was the only successful one, or that it was the source of all these monsters-kill-everyone-one-by-one movies.&nbsp; <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> picked up on a well-established theme and did it well.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>Well, 1. Half of those horror movies, I haven't seen or didn't knwo they started in the 70s. 2. "Alien", for some reason, is the first movie that jumps into people's minds whenever someone mentions "monster killing people off one by one". Granted, it wasn't the first movie to do that theme, but it seems to be the one that sticks with people the most.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 7:36pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>After <strong><EM>Texas Chain Saw Massacre</EM></strong> came out, we suddenly had <strong><EM>Black Christmas</EM></strong> (1974), then <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong> (1978), and <strong><EM>Friday the 13th</EM></strong> (1980) owed more to <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong> than <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong>.&nbsp; It was a successful formula starting with <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong>.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>They were so successful (with the sole exception of <B style="FONT-STYLE: italic">BC </B>(but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes&nbsp;over the past&nbsp;eight years (including <strong><EM>BC</EM></strong>).&nbsp; That leaves <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>But I look at "Alien" as THEE most successful of all those movies, since it was a studio movie that then spawned into other mediums like video games and comics, and those other movies were just indie flicks that got lucky.&nbsp;And I didn't mean just inspiring&nbsp;horror movies, but sci-fi movies as well, like "Pitch Black". "Halloween" I give credit to all the cliches of the purist person lives in the end while all the teens who have sex, drink alcohol and do drugs get killed off and that the murder has to have a certain look and weapon of choice.&nbsp;However,&nbsp;"Alien" is far from unscathed. The third and fourth movies sucked, as did the "Alien vs. Predator" movies, and there's been rumors of a remake in the works.</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>But now you're changing the argument.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Face it, TCSM was the first, and it was wildly successful.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Halloween was a John Carpenter film.&nbsp; I wouldn't classify John Carpenter films as lucky indie projects.&nbsp; And it spawned several sequels.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Friday the 13th spawned even more sequels, most of which were successful (no, Friday the 13th VII: Jason Takes Manhattan was not one of the successful ones) and it was a Paramount production, not an indie production.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I will allow you this: of all of them <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> was the better film, and its first sequel, <strong><EM>Aliens</EM></strong>, was even better.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>But don't go saying <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> started it all, or that it was the only successful one, or that it was the source of all these monsters-kill-everyone-one-by-one movies.&nbsp; <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> picked up on a well-established theme and did it well.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 5:29pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GTAHater767</strong></em><br /><br />A remake in the works? Forget prequels and sequels, if Hollywood can only catch our attention by announcing remakes and rip-offs, I'd say they're incurable.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>I would just like it for them to leave their best movies alone. Stop milking them once they go wrong. Stop remaking, rebooting, whatever. Once the series is no longer successful, end it!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 1:01pm<br /><br />A remake in the works? Forget prequels and sequels, if Hollywood can only catch our attention by announcing remakes and rip-offs, I'd say they're incurable.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 11:30am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>After <strong><EM>Texas Chain Saw Massacre</EM></strong> came out, we suddenly had <strong><EM>Black Christmas</EM></strong> (1974), then <strong><EM>Halloween</EM></strong> (1978), and <strong><EM>Friday the 13th</EM></strong> (1980) owed more to <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong> than <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong>.&nbsp; It was a successful formula starting with <strong><EM>TCSM</EM></strong>.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>They were so successful (with the sole exception of <B style="FONT-STYLE: italic">BC </B>(but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes&nbsp;over the past&nbsp;eight years (including <strong><EM>BC</EM></strong>).&nbsp; That leaves <strong><EM>Alien</EM></strong> the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>But I look at "Alien" as THEE most successful of all those movies, since it was a studio movie that then spawned into other mediums like video games and comics, and those other movies were just indie flicks that got lucky.&nbsp;And I didn't mean just inspiring&nbsp;horror movies, but sci-fi movies as well, like "Pitch Black". "Halloween" I give credit to all the cliches of the purist person lives in the end while all the teens who have sex, drink alcohol and do drugs get killed off and that the murder has to have a certain look and weapon of choice.&nbsp;However,&nbsp;"Alien" is far from unscathed. The third and fourth movies sucked, as did the "Alien vs. Predator" movies, and there's been rumors of a remake in the works.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 22 2010 at 8:01am<br /><br /><div>Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>After <strong><em>Texas Chain Saw Massacre</em></strong> came out, we suddenly had <strong><em>Black Christmas</em></strong> (1974), then <strong><em>Halloween</em></strong> (1978), and <strong><em>Friday the 13th</em></strong> (1980) owed more to <strong><em>TCSM</em></strong> than <strong><em>Alien</em></strong>.&nbsp; It was a successful formula starting with <strong><em>TCSM</em></strong>.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>They were so successful (with the sole exception of <b style="font-style: italic; ">BC </b>(but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes&nbsp;over the past&nbsp;eight years (including <strong><em>BC</em></strong>).&nbsp; That leaves <strong><em>Alien</em></strong> the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.</div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 10:00pm<br /><br />Well, the formula might have been used before, but I give "Alien" credit for cementing it as a successful device that&nbsp;has&nbsp;been copied and pasted ever since for over 30 years. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><div><div>"The movie that started the "group of people being killed off one by one by a monster" cliche??</div><div><strong><em><br></em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Alien</em></strong>&nbsp;was 1979 -- &nbsp;<strong><em>Texas Chain Saw Massacre</em></strong>&nbsp;was 1974.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I'm guessing&nbsp;we can go back further.</div></div></td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 8:30pm<br /><br /><div><div>"The movie that started the "group of people being killed off one by one by a monster" cliche??</div><div><strong><em><br></em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Alien</em></strong>&nbsp;was 1979 -- &nbsp;<strong><em>Texas Chain Saw Massacre</em></strong>&nbsp;was 1974.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I'm guessing&nbsp;we can go back further.</div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 8:13pm<br /><br />For the child in you, how about "E.T." Or the movie that started the "group-of-people-being-killed-off=one-by-one-by-a-monster" cliche, "Alien." &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br /><div></div>District 9 still ranks among the most unpleasant and disappointing experiences I have ever had in a movie theater. The original Day the Earth Stands Still is a classic, Men in Black is overrated. I'm not sure any of these movies would make my top ten in the "alien encounters" genre.</td></tr></table>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 7:50pm<br /><br />District 9 still ranks among the most unpleasant and disappointing experiences I have ever had in a movie theater. The original Day the Earth Stands Still is a classic, Men in Black is over-rated.<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;I'm not sure any of these 3 movies would make my top ten in the "alien encounters" genre. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu</strong></em><br /><br /><p>If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.</p></td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 5:37pm<br /><br />Oh my, that joke was so painful, I'm surprised it wasn't in the movie itself!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">JoeBacon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 21 2010 at 5:03pm<br /><br />Well, Burn, it DID show up a week before a blue moon&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 8:10pm<br /><br />Because it's stinky like old cheese, and most of the time, the screen is lit up in blue light? &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">JoeBacon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 7:08pm<br /><br />Two words describe this MESSTERPIECE...<div><br></div><div><b><font ="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: -webkit-xxx-large;"><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">BLUE CHEESE!</font></span></font></b></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9143">Grounder the Critic</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 6:42pm<br /><br />Or even <i>Close Encounters of the Third Kind. &nbsp;</i><br><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu</strong></em><br /><br /><p>If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.</p></td></tr></table></span></i></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3360">MiguelAntilsu</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 5:18pm<br /><br /><P>If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 4:33pm<br /><br />I'm not hating on the movie, and yes I know Hitchcok would use the "McGiffen device" in which certain plot points are not fully explained because the audiences wouldn't care, just as long as it's made to look important. However, there is a world of difference between not fully explaining something and a complete lack in common sense -- like why the hell would aliens invade a planet covered in water when their only weakness is water?!<div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4662<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 11:04am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">I know you don't want me to defend a Shyamalan movie here...and I won't. The flaw of SIGNS was trying <u>too</u> hard to mix horror with science fiction. Sci-Fi kinda requires explanations for certain things, while Horror doesn't. The deal about the aliens wasn't explained because that's how M. Night's idol Hitchcock did it.</font>]]>
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