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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :   Originally posted by robbie...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9143">Grounder the Critic</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 08 2011 at 5:44am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by robbie bugg</strong></em><br /><br />Hannah montana is my most favorite singer and I have all the collections of her.........</td></tr></table>Come on, she's a dumb singer. So is Rebbecca Black.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10189">robbie bugg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 08 2011 at 2:58am<br /><br />Hannah montana is my most favorite singer and I have all the collections of her.........]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... : She is looking good in that costume....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10189">robbie bugg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June 03 2011 at 3:39am<br /><br />She is looking good in that costume.]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :  This movie was really very nice,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10189">robbie bugg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 23 2011 at 5:07am<br /><br />This movie was really very nice, and the cast in the movie was also very nice in acting, and even the costumes which they used in the movie was fantastic! &nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :   Originally posted by milaHy...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9143">Grounder the Critic</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 6:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by mila</strong></em><br /><br />Hy guys,<div><br></div><div>I like Hannah Montana and the games from <a href="http://www.hannah-m&#111;ntana-spiele.com" target="_blank">Hannah Montana</a>. I think she´s realy cute.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Nice regards</div></td></tr></table>To me, she's not cute. She's not ugly, but not cute. And she can't act nor sing.<br>]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :  Originally posted by milaHy...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 4:35pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by mila</strong></em><br /><br />Hy guys,<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I like Hannah Montana and the games from <a href="http://www.hannah-m&#111;ntana-spiele.com" target="_blank">Hannah Montana</A>. I think she´s realy cute.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Nice regards</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Cute, sure. Talented, not so much.]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :   Hy guys,I like Hannah Montana...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9155">mila</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 18 2010 at 7:38am<br /><br />Hy guys,<div><br></div><div>I like Hannah Montana and the games from <a href="http://" target="_blank">Hannah Montana</a>. I think she´s realy cute.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Nice regards1</div>]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... : 1. &amp;#034;Truman Show&amp;#034; doesn&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 18 2010 at 8:01pm<br /><br />1. "Truman Show" doesn't count because whichl Truman didn't know he was being filmmed, he was surrounded by actors who did and everything around him was staged. And "Ed TV" doesn't count because while it was all about cameras following Ed through his everyday life 24/7/365, he was aware that the cameras were there.<br><br>2. Oh no, I dont't hate Paris Hilton because of who she is, but because of her lack of talent, yet she's always in the media anyway like she's of some great importance to society, which she isn't. The same goes for that no talent, attention whore, bitch Kim Kardashian!<br>]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :  Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurnTo...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 18 2010 at 1:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />To me, none of those programs are "reality" shows. What's a reality show? If you saw the movie "Before Sunrise" when Ethan Hawke explained his concept about a "reality" show, what he explained what a TRUE reality show is. What was his concept? Pretty much film original people with&nbsp;hidden cameras for 24 hours per person as they do their daily rountines (eating breakfast, going to work, etc.)&nbsp;and show it uncut and unedited on TV. That is TRUE reality TV. They don't know they are on TV and they act as they normally would. But broadcasted singing contests and 8 morons getting drunk and punching each other are NOT reality shows. Hell, there's writers listed in the end credits of most of these "reality" shows. <DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>Like THE TRUMAN SHOW and ED-TV?</FONT></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV><DIV>1) I meant you're not giving me any actual lyrics or what they're meant to symbolize. <BR>2) You've definitely not been giving the impression that you're only saying she's not that bad. You've been saying things like you can't stand to see her with other dudes, and I and everyone else here definitely seem to be under the impression that you're defending her pretty staunchly. <BR>And if I really believed you were just trying to say that she just "isn't that bad", I could empathize. Go read the thread on <EM>Repo! The Genetic Opera</EM> and look at how I've defended Paris Hilton. I guess I'll leave it up to others to decide, but I feel like you've got a bit more vim and vigor in your defense than I had, and I'll state for the record that I hate Paris Hilton less than anyone else on this forum.</td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>1)THE CLIMB says it's not about the goal,but the journey.7 THINGS says how much you love someone even if you hate everythin'bout that person.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>2)I can't stand to see her kissin'guys'cuz I have a crush on her,but I defend her the same way other trashed celebrities when I believe they shouldn't be treated like that.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>3)I also defend Miss Hilton'cuz people hate her mostly for who she is as a person,instead of her lack of talent,like it should be.</FONT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 4:03pm<br /><br />I'm not in the mood to edit the bejesus out of a long quotation, soooo...<br /><br />1) I meant you're not giving me any actual lyrics or what they're meant to symbolize.<br />2) You've definitely not been giving the impression that you're only saying she's not that bad. You've been saying things like you can't stand to see her with other dudes, and I and everyone else here definitely seem to be under the impression that you're defending her pretty staunchly. <br />And if I really believed you were just trying to say that she just "isn't that bad", I could empathize. Go read the thread on <em>Repo! The Genetic Opera</em> and look at how I've defended Paris Hilton. I guess I'll leave it up to others to decide, but I feel like you've got a bit more vim and vigor in your defense than I had, and I'll state for the record that I hate Paris Hilton less than anyone else on this forum.]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... : To me, none of those programs...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 3:31pm<br /><br />To me, none of those programs are "reality" shows. What's a reality show? If you saw the movie "Before Sunrise" when Ethan Hawke explained his concept about a "reality" show, what he explained what a TRUE reality show is. What was his concept? Pretty much film original people with&nbsp;hidden cameras for 24 hours per person as they do their daily rountines (eating breakfast, going to work, etc.)&nbsp;and show it uncut and unedited on TV. That is TRUE reality TV. They don't know they are on TV and they act as they normally would. But broadcasted singing contests and 8 morons getting drunk and punching each other are NOT reality shows. Hell, there's writers listed in the end credits of most of these "reality" shows.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>PS: Yeah, dEd made a good point. There's no way in hell a TV show starring black people would last more than one episode if it featured them "proudly" calling themselves the African-American slur name.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 1:45pm<br /><br />Allow me to note that there is a really significant difference between "reality" shows like Jersey Shore and shows like America's Got Talent. On the latter, people actually have to display talent in competition with others, so yes, there is a difference between not only the shows I've mentioned, but also between winners of competitions of that nature and people like Miley Cyrus who have everything handed to them. Terry Fator, whom I previously mentioned is a genuinely talented man who has become one of the most popular performers in Vegas. Ten years from now, he will probably still be selling out his shows. By then, Miley Cyrus will probably be the subject of some "where are they now" article.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Now, admittedly, a certain number of junk acts manage to&nbsp; get aired on shows like AGT, probably because the people who produce it thinks it adds something to the entertainment value and most forms of entertainment these days tend to shoot for the lowest common denominator. For that reason, I usually don't watch it until the last couple of weeks when they have narrowed the field down to a few exceptionally talented people. Unlike American Idol, which is centered exclusively on singers, people with a variety of talents compete on AGT.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Hannah, Montana, Banana-Fannah... :  Originally posted by dEd Grimley  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 12:55pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>I'm not sure how insightful are the lyrics in THE CLIMB,but I find that to be her best song.As for the songs she has written,7 THINGS,which I also don't know how insightful the lyrics are.</FONT></DIV><DIV></td></tr></table><BR>That's not very helpful.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>I'm sayin'it is insightful.I just don't know how much.</FONT></DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV>When did I say she was better than any other singer?I'm sayin'I don't think she's bad.That's it.</td></tr></table> <BR>You said she won a Grammy, and that Grammys were the most important entertainment award. Logically speaking, that would mean you think very highly of her, and that she was better than other musicians because of the award.</td></tr></table> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>Have you not been readin'my posts?I've been sayin'that I don'think she's bad,that's all.</FONT></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>Her song THE CLIMB,which she didn't write,was nominated.Well,actually there was a mess there with the submission rules,so they took away the nom.,but it still had it.</FONT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 12:35pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br />I'm not sure how insightful are the lyrics in THE CLIMB,but I find that to be her best song.As for the songs she has written,7 THINGS,which I also don't know how insightful the lyrics are.</div><br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />That's not very helpful.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><br />I was born and raised in Chile,but I lived for 6 months in the U.S.,and I've always been outcasted in my country'cuz I've always been more into the U.S. culture,so I know what I'm talkin'bout.</div><br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />I wouldn't really call that quite enough to quite grasp it all. Experience the 80's and the rise of greed, and then you'll start understanding the bitterness.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><br />I said yankee'cuz sayin'"Gringo" makes me "sound" like an angry mexican,and I don't say "American"'cuz America is the continent,not your country.<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Haha.. Ok. I find gringo hilarious, personally, and I always try to use Estadounidense when speaking with hispanics. But a fair enough choice of words. Most of us here think of yankees as people from the North, ie, above Virginia or so, but I know that it's used outside of the US for all of us.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><br />When did I say she was better than any other singer?I'm sayin'I don't think she's bad.That's it.</td></tr></table><br /><br />You said she won a Grammy, and that Grammys were the most important entertainment award. Logically speaking, that would mean you think very highly of her, and that she was better than other musicians because of the award. <br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />"Jersey Shore" is of the antichrist, spawned from satan's seed and anyone who watches it has no soul!</td></tr></table><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br />And you wonder why I accuse you of hatin'Hollywood.</font></div></td></tr></table><br />Jersey Shore isn't exactly Hollywood, although it's essentially trying to assert that the vapid lifestyle that a lot of Hollywoodies live exists elsewhere. I mean, they practically give themselves stupid superhero names... The Situation? Snookie? Aqualad?<br />I'm also curious as to whether or not the show would fly if it were about black people who called themselves the equivalent of "Guido", which is a racial slur itself. Shows like Jersey Shore and Jerry Springer being exported outside of the US are particularly embarrassing. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 12:18pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><FONT size=3 face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Please don't hate me,but I just voted for Miley in the Kids's Choice Awards for "Favorite TV Actress" and "Favorite Song"(PARTY IN THE U.S.A.).However,I didn't vote for her for "Favorite Movie Actress"(Sandra Bullock)nor "Favorite Female Singer"(Lady Gaga).</FONT></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Hey, if you want to vote for the Kids' Choice Awards (although I don't know why anyone over the age of 10 would want to) go right ahead. They are a pointless award show anyway.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 12:16pm<br /><br /><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=3>Please don't hate me,but I just voted for Miley in the Kids's Choice Awards for "Favorite TV Actress" and "Favorite Song"(PARTY IN THE U.S.A.).However,I didn't vote for her for "Favorite Movie Actress"(Sandra Bullock)nor "Favorite Female Singer"(Lady Gaga).</FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 12:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />"Jersey Shore" is of the antichrist, spawned from satan's seed and anyone who watches it has no soul!</td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New, Courier, mono">And you wonder why I accuse you of hatin'Hollywood.</FONT></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>I do hate Hollywood, for making s*** like this! This show is all about making Italians and people from New Jersey look like a**holes and people watch it by the millions! And no, "guido" is not a "lifestyle", it is a negative&nbsp;ethnic slur, you morons (the people on the show, not you, Vits).]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 11:47am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />Then why don't you point me to something insightful she's written?</td></tr></table> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>I'm not sure how insightful are the lyrics in THE CLIMB,but I find that to be her best song.As for the songs she has written,7 THINGS,which I also don't know how insightful the lyrics are.</FONT></DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />It absolutely matters where you're from. If you don't understand the culture first hand, you don't. lol I'm also curious as to what your definition of yankee is, as well, because I think that has a different connotation depending on where you are.</td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>I was born and raised in Chile,but I lived for 6 months in the U.S.,and I've always been outcasted in my country'cuz I've always been more into the U.S. culture,so I know what I'm talkin'bout.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>I said yankee'cuz sayin'"Gringo" makes me "sound" like an angry mexican,and I don't say "American"'cuz America is the continent,not your country.</FONT></DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />Miley Cyrus sings pop music. At best, the most original aspect to it is that it makes pop music seem more interest to an even younger audience, which doesn't mean that she's making BETTER music... She's just kinda mixing Jessica Simpson and Raffi.</td></tr></table><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>When did I say she was better than any other singer?I'm sayin'I don't think she's bad.That's it.</FONT></DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />"Jersey Shore" is of the antichrist, spawned from satan's seed and anyone who watches it has no soul!</td></tr></table></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>And you wonder why I accuse you of hatin'Hollywood.</FONT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 11:04am<br /><br />"Jersey Shore" is of the antichrist, spawned from satan's seed and anyone who watches it has no soul!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 9:59am<br /><br />It absolutely matters where you're from. If you don't understand the culture first hand, you don't. lol I'm also curious as to what your definition of yankee is, as well, because I think that has a different connotation depending on where you are.<br />Elvis was famous because he capitalized on an emerging trend and gave it a unique (read: White) flavor. The luck he had in his big break was that he had something new to offer on a semi-new format, TV, when the idea of putting newer music on TV was first coming about.<br />Now, let's all face it, the moment for THAT to be new has long since passed, so it's really, really unlikely for the stars to align for someone like that again. So that was a fairly fortunate movie, but he brought something NEW.<br />Miley Cyrus sings pop music. At best, the most original aspect to it is that it makes pop music seem more interest to an even younger audience, which doesn't mean that she's making BETTER music... She's just kinda mixing Jessica Simpson and Raffi. Her big lucky break came from being born into a family with a popular musician already in it.<br />Britney was a dancer who's big break came from being on the Mickey Mouse club in it's death throes.<br />Enrique Iglesias, again, famous dad, and total pretty boy.<br />I suppose you might say that most extremely famous musicians have thrived on luck, but it's only recently that being able to sell the artist themselves has become more important than talent, because in the old days, consumerism hadn't reached such a fever pitch, and there were so many fewer ways for a musician to get their name out there in the first place. Nowadays, it's find someone sexy and give them a camera. Who's the last UGLY female pop star you can think of?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 8:06am<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; "><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />Why, exactly, MUST it be good. Again, I don't know if you're born and raised in Chile, or if you've lived in the US at all, but I think that you're SEVERELY overestimating American audiences if you think that our system of capitalism always rewards quality, and that marketing doesn't play a greater role than the actual product.</td></tr></table></div></span><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">It doesn't matter where I'm from.I'm sayin'he must be good'cuz that what I've heard from most people...yankees,of course.He's not famous here.</font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I'm not denyin'that whole marketin'thing you just "said".Remember the Elvis example?I'm just sayin'all of you tend to believe most celebrities are like that,and that isn't fair.You should say that from people we <span ="Apple-style-span" style="text-decorati&#111;n: underline;">know</span> are like that(like The King himself),instead of assumin'that from Miley just cuz her dad's famous.Britney Spears on the other hand...well,it's a fact that she doesn't really sing.I have a relative who worked in a label(I don't remember the name),and she told me Enrique Iglesias doesn't sing either.</font></span><br><div><br></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; "><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br />I'm not much of a fan of reality tv, but I have to give some kudos to shows like <strong>America's Got Talent</strong> which has given opportunites to some very gifted people who otherwise might never have been given a break. My wife and I were in Vegas a few weeks ago and we saw <strong>Terry Fator. </strong>He was an AGT winner a couple of years ago, and his show is selling out every night in Vegas. He is really outstanding. Contrast that to someone like Miley Cyrus who was simply given her celebrity status, and suddenly reality shows, at least in the nature of AGT are worthwhile.</td></tr></table></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><br></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Really?You want to win this arguement of celebrities who don't deserve bein'famous by tellin'me'bout Reality TV?Luckily for you,those 2 example actually work,'cuz those are cometition shows,rather than narrative realities.B.T.W.,next week,JERSEY SHORE will premiere here,and I ain't watchin'it.</font></span></div></span></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 17 2010 at 3:51am<br /><br />Ha, "reality" TV. If you know that's you're on TV, you're going to act differentally than if you didn't, so it's by no means "reality".]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 8:49pm<br /><br />Haha... This local burlesque/variety show/circus stunt type... whatever... chick named Miss Pussykat who's done go-go dancing for my band before was on that show and got pretty far.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 8:40pm<br /><br />I'm not much of a fan of reality tv, but I have to give some kudos to shows like <strong>America's Got Talent</strong> which has given opportunites to some very gifted people who otherwise might never have been given a break. My wife and I were in Vegas a few weeks ago and we saw <strong>Terry Fator. </strong>He was an AGT winner a couple of years ago, and his show is selling out every night in Vegas. He is really outstanding. Contrast that to someone like Miley Cyrus who was simply given her celebrity status, and suddenly reality shows, at least in the nature of AGT are worthwhile.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 8:10pm<br /><br />Ehh... I wouldn't call him an everyman... I think he has this like... High energy male model kinda look thing going for him, which is why they've put him in Rom Coms.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 6:49pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />Why, exactly, MUST it be good. Again, I don't know if you're born and raised in Chile, or if you've lived in the US at all, but I think that you're SEVERELY overestimating American audiences if you think that our system of capitalism always rewards quality, and that marketing doesn't play a greater role than the actual product. <BR>My theory has always been that Dane Cook's success has had more to do with the fact that he's a comedian that chicks wanna hook up with.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Yeah, man, Dane Cook's jokes are lame. The only reason why he's famous is because he has this cool, hansome, everyman image to him, so girls want to be with him and guys want to be like him. If you actually see his act, he's not funny at all.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 5:48pm<br /><br />Why, exactly, MUST it be good. Again, I don't know if you're born and raised in Chile, or if you've lived in the US at all, but I think that you're SEVERELY overestimating American audiences if you think that our system of capitalism always rewards quality, and that marketing doesn't play a greater role than the actual product.<br />My theory has always been that Dane Cook's success has had more to do with the fact that he's a comedian that chicks wanna hook up with.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 1:07pm<br /><br /><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>I don't like Dane Cook,but I can still say that he's famous for his stand-up comedy,which must be good. </FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 10:52am<br /><br />I don't hate celebrities, I hate Hollywood and them pushing these talentless "celebrities" as if their lives are more important than the President's. Kim Kardashian has done NOTHING worth writing about in a weekly magazine, and having a lot of friends on MySpace is not a talent, Dane Cook.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3567<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 16 2010 at 10:18am<br /><br />Arrrrrgh...<br />Again, as saturn points out, he brought something new and enduring. Miley has brought a successful marketing ploy that's been used time and time again for almost 40 years now.<br />To say that they can do as well as Miley never, at any time, suggests that what that quality is, is all that good in the first place.]]>
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