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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : THAT&amp;#039;S WHAT THEY ARE FOR...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 04 2011 at 10:57am<br /><br /><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE FOR THINKING IT'S SPELLED WITH AN "O" INSTEAD OF A "U"(**/*****).</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Starring:<b>Ben Stiller </b>as the father of the LITTLE <b>FOCKERS</b>,and <b>Robert DeNiro</b> as the grandfather of the LITTLE <b>FOCKERS</b>.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 22px; font-size: medium; ">The 1st one was the perfect example on how to make a comedy.The 2nd one did repeat a lot of the jokes,but it was still funny,and it opened the door to having fans.But even the fans won't like this one.</span></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">So what is the problem with this movie?Simple:after knowing each other for so many years,<b>JACK</b> still doesn't trust <b>GREG</b>?!And how many more times will they make up,only to start all over again?!I'm not an expert in family relationships,but when two in-laws meet and don't like each other,and years later they <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">have an actual fight</font>...well,after that either they like each other or not,but there's no way they can go back to just putting up with the other's presence,which will be the case if they make a 4th movie.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Since they couldn't go any further with the "His name is <b>FOCKER</b>" joke,this time they use "The God-<b>FOCKER</b>".It's barely funny the first time,and they repeat that word 5 times in 30 seconds.And when your "Presentation card" joke fails,the rest of the jokes are destined to fail.It feels as if they just wrote a bunch of gags and pasted them together trying to create the plot,which is twice as predictable as before,and this time you can't overlook that.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">There are many types of comedy,and this movie fails mainly because the comedy is different from the other 2 movies.I know that someone <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">backing up a truck and getting people covered in poop</font> seems the same as <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">throwing up on someone</font>,and that a <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">dog humping a cat</font> seems the same as <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">injecting a needle on someone else's penis</font>.Well,it's not.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Like in a lot of modern comedies,there are plot holes through out the movie you only spot if you're trying to look for them(like <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">how bad was <b>JACK </b>at following <b>GREG </b>despite being a former CIA agent</font>),and then when it's about to finish they increase(like <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">the fact that no one seems to care that <b>GREG </b>and <b>JACK </b>are fighting</font>)to the point that even the character's reactions make no sense whatsoever(like <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff"><b>ROZ </b>smiling when <b>BERNIE </b>caught her with <b>KEVIN</b></font>),and it's just painful to watch.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Among the easiest things to write in a comedy is having children acting like adults and/or cursing.We have both of those in this movie,and even they are only mildly amusing in a movie that generates mostly forced laughs.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><b>Stiller </b>sleepwalks through this movie.The only time he changes his face expression and actually tries it's when <font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ffffff">he pretends to be a hamster</font>,which obviously isn't funny.I know stars prefer to do that to grab a quick buck,specially in sequels,but I didn't expect it from him.He didn't change his face in NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM 2,but he was doing deadpan comedy(there's a difference),and he was funny in that one.Aside from him,there aren't bad performances.It's just that the characters have become such cartoons(specially <b>JACK </b>and <b>ROZ FOCKER</b>)that there's no way to play them without being over-the-top.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Grades: D- in the U.S. and 3,0 in Chile.</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? :  Originally posted by SchumacherH8terThey...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2611">Michaels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 03 2011 at 7:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter</strong></em><br /><br />They showed this at Le Moyne on March 25th. I know this because I saw Suckey Punch earlier in the day and that was better. Alba wasn't very good, but not as bad as, say Nicola Peltz or Bryce Dallas Howard.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Yeah, but Alba was LONG overdue for a razzing.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 03 2011 at 4:47pm<br /><br />They showed this at Le Moyne on March 25th. I know this because I saw Suckey Punch earlier in the day and that was better. Alba wasn't very good, but not as bad as, say Nicola Peltz or Bryce Dallas Howard.]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : I just saw it,and I gave it 3/10(I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 03 2011 at 2:27pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it,and I gave it 3/10(I gave the other two 9 and 8).Review coming soon.</font>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : Nowhere as good as the first,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9539">sizzel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 02 2011 at 6:14pm<br /><br />Nowhere as good as the first, very disappointing. The first was awesome and I continue to watch it over and over.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Mark<br>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : I Went to see this in the theater...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8405">Natendowii</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 17 2011 at 8:57am<br /><br />I Went to see this in the theater with my Parents. Dear Lord I just wanted to walk out, but I couldn't because I was with my Family. It was Boring, predictable, and was so painful I wanted to take out a 9mm to put myself out my misery. the jokes were stupid and predictable, the writing was awful, and I Haven't seen Robert DeNiro slog through Material this bad since <i>Rocky and Bullwinkle</i>! I Nominate this for worst Sequel.]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? :   Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry   HOFFMAN:...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=26">moorlock2003</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 02 2011 at 11:55am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry</strong></em><br /><br /><div><img src="http://c0181321.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/PHwdMnm05AEQzC_1_m.jpg" height="290" width="450" border="0" /></div><div><br></div><div><font size="3" ="apple-style-span"=""><b>HOFFMAN: <i>"So, Babs, this could get me &nbsp;my berry&nbsp;</i></b></font></div><div><i><font size="3" ="apple-style-span"=""><b>first&nbsp;</b></font><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><b>RAZZIE</b></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'" ="apple-style-span"=""><font size="2" ="apple-style-span"="">®</font></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><b>&nbsp;Nomination..."</b></span></i></div><div><font size="3" ="apple-style-span"=""><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="3" ="apple-style-span"=""><b>BABS: <i>"And me my third! &nbsp;Thank God they don't have&nbsp;</i></b></font></div><div><font size="3" ="apple-style-span"=""><b><i>a category&nbsp;</i></b></font><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><b><i>for Worst Frazzle-Haired Fright Wig..."</i> &nbsp;</b></span></div><div><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><b><br></b></span></div></td></tr></table> <div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>I'd like to see both of these "fockers" with Razzie nominations in the supporting categories.]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? :  Sandler is pretty much one-note....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 30 2010 at 2:56pm<br /><br />Sandler is pretty much one-note. As we mentioned with all the movies above, he can try to be serious, but acting like a moron is just too natural for him -- his "inner moron" is always lurking just below the surface, ready to jump out. You can almost hear his thoughts, as if he is thinking: "This isn't fun, I wanna come out and play!" &nbsp;<div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? :  SPANGLISH, which I gave 2/10,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 30 2010 at 6:44am<br /><br /><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">SPANGLISH, which I gave 2/10, doesn't count. It's a more serious role, and during the dramatic scenes he gets his act together. But most of the movie <i>is</i> a comedy, and he acts the same way as always. &nbsp;</font></span><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : No, there were one or two quick...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 9:07pm<br /><br />No, there were one or two quick moments in Spanglish when his moronic side was getting ready to pounce, but didn't fully emerge. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : You don&amp;#039;t see that in Spanglish,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 8:04pm<br /><br />You don't see that in <strong><EM>Spanglish</EM></strong>, but then again, that movie dragged in parts.<DIV></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : PUNCH DRUNK LOVE and REIGN OVER...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 3:47pm<br /><br /><div>PUNCH DRUNK LOVE and REIGN OVER ME are nice efforts on Sandler's part, but in the end, they prove that acting like an idiot is all he is really good at. Even in those movie, you can see his "inner moron" desperatly wants to come&nbsp;out and wreak havoc.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 2:51pm<br /><br /><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Speaking of Sandler, what about PUNCH DRUNK LOVE and/or REIGN OVER ME? &nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 12px; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GTAHater767</strong></em><br /><br />At least Will Ferrell succeeded with Stranger Than Fiction, but we don't know what Adam Sandler would be good in if not&nbsp;comedy or toilet humor.</td></tr></table></span></font></span></div>]]>
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   <title>Just How FOCKing Awful IZ It?!?!? : Ah, yeah -- adult diaper humoris...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 11:19am<br /><br />Ah, yeah -- adult diaper humor&nbsp;is equally distasteful...not to mention disrespectful to those who "depend" on them.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 10:28am<br /><br />I <EM>know</EM> we are lost in translation. As for people being offended by jokes about sex... I would agree that Sandler is too fascinated with the male genitalia for his own good. I'm (beep)ed off because despite the appalling reviews on Grown-Ups, many people my age STILL eat his movies up! At least Will Ferrell succeeded with Stranger Than Fiction, but we don't know what Adam Sandler would be good in if not&nbsp;comedy or toilet humor.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And I was talking about <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/TENA-Disposable-Adult-Underwear-Diapers-Brief-Medium-12-/320625957370?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4aa6cbd9fa" target="_blank">these</A>, not condoms.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2010 at 9:49am<br /><br />I think we have a "lost in translation" thing going on. Are you talking about condoms? I was talking about people being offended by jokes about sex (example: "Funny People" and Adam Sandler's strange obsession with a certain male organ in that movie). &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GTAHater767</strong></em><br /><br />If you're talking personal opinions on sex, one of my college underclassmen agrees that wearing the absorbent article in question feels better than sex. Bluntly put, it renders sex redundant.</td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 28 2010 at 8:38pm<br /><br /><P>If you're talking personal opinions on sex, one of my college underclassmen agrees that wearing the absorbent article in question feels better than sex. Bluntly put, it renders sex redundant.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 28 2010 at 6:24pm<br /><br />I'm guessing you're just joking here, since I figured you had such a strong stance about sex, you would be one of the people who would be offended by jokes and humor that's all about sex. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GTAHater767</strong></em><br /><br />Body functions and fluids? Do the words "8.6 Courics" mean anything to you?<p>And private parts and sexual fetishes? Since I was young, I've known about one of them. It was for something absorbent worn on the genitalia.</td></tr></table></p></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 28 2010 at 12:52pm<br /><br /><P>Body functions and fluids? Do the words "8.6 Courics" mean anything to you?</P><P>And private parts and sexual fetishes? Since I was young, I've known about one of them. It was for something absorbent worn on the genitalia.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 8:59pm<br /><br />Well, you can't get any more low-brow than jokes about bodily fuctions and body fluids, or private parts and sexual fetishes ... stuff that is common place in Sandler movies. That's the kind of low-brow humor I'm taking about, or "bathroom/locker room" humor, if that is a better definition for it. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br />Definitons can get a bit tricky. I loved Weird Al Yankovich's UHF, which a lot of people might consider low brow. But compared to most of what one would see in the average Adam Sandler film, it probably fails to meet the definition.</td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 3:04pm<br /><br />Definitons can get a bit tricky. I loved Weird Al Yankovich's UHF, which a lot of people might consider low brow. But compared to most of what one would see in the average Adam Sandler film, it probably fails to meet the definition.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 2:29pm<br /><br />Based on past posts made by members here, that's how I know. Like a picture of Stiller dressed as "Navi" from the last Oscars with the caption "Not funny on any planet", or the fact saturnwatcher doesn't take to low-brow humor. Members give hints to their personal tastes and personalities within their posts.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 2:00pm<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">How can I ask them if you keep talking for them?</font></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 1:43pm<br /><br />1. Well, we're explaining why&nbsp;the first movie&nbsp;was popular at that time, but I wouldn't say it was worthy of a sequel based on the lack of anyway for the story to continue besides just doing it all over again while using Stiller's character's parents. &nbsp;<div><br><div>2. Yes, but then there's just recycling jokes from the first two movies all over again. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>3. Then ask saturnwatcher or anyone else here what they think of Ben Stiller's tiresome, decade-old&nbsp;"I'm funny because I wear funny costumes"&nbsp;routine. If no one agress that it's&nbsp;gotten old, then I guess it's just me. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<font size="3" face="Courier New, Courier, mono">1)I thought we were talking about why the first one was good.<br>2)Comedy really is subjective.Some people enjoy a certain type of jokes,and some not.Because of the success of the first one,I think it's fair to say people really like comedies of errors.<br>3)Regardless of what I wrote,what I really asked was "Why do<u>you</u>&nbsp;say he's not funny anymore?".Your answer only tells me that only&nbsp;<u>you</u>&nbsp;don't find him funny anymore.</font><br></td></tr></table></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 27 2010 at 10:23am<br /><br /><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">1) I thought we were talking about why the first one was good.&nbsp;</font></div><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"><br>2)Comedy really is subjective. Some people enjoy a certain type of jokes, and some not. Because of the success of the first one, I think it's fair to say people really like comedies of errors.&nbsp;</font></div><div><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"><br>3)Regardless of what I wrote, what I really asked was "Why do <u>you</u> say he's not funny anymore?" Your answer only tells me that only <u>you</u> don't find him funny anymore.&nbsp;</font><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 26 2010 at 5:01pm<br /><br /><div>Responding to Vits (see below):&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>1. But of course, because as we have been saying all this year, Hollywood must milk a cash cow for all it's worth. Frankly, we really didn't need a "Meet The Fockers". It was pretty much the same movie all over again, except now we're being introduced to&nbsp;Stiller's Type B parents instead of his wife's Type A parents. Oh, and a baby instead of a cat.&nbsp;<div>&nbsp;</div><div>2. That's what I meant by a "comedy of errors". I mean only in the movies would a man set a house or lawn on fire from smoking on the roof of the house. Although, you never know these days with the kind of stupid people in the world. Then there's the outragous things like a potty trained cat peeing on grandma's ashes or losing the cat and painting a stray cat's tail to replace him with.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>3. Well, "Modern Family" is a series that is designed to last for 24 episodes a year with a wide range of events for them to be put through, and it has a large writing cast. Not to mention there's not one but THREE families to work with. As for Stiller not being funny, he's been doing the same routine for the past 10 years at every award show, be it the MTV Movies or the Oscar. "Oh look at me, I'm dressed in an&nbsp;weird costume, isn't that funny!". It's gotten old.</div></div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp; <div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"="">1. I'm sorry if you didn't liked it,but the box office results and reviews it got are enough to call it a good remake.</font></span></div><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""></font></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""><font style=": #e9dbb1" face="Verdana">2. </font>Aside from what </font></span><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"="">Burn</font></span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""> said,it's the fact that the movie is filled with those funny situations that at first sight seem like you only find them in movies,yet,if you think about it you can relate to most of the movie.</font></span></div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""></font></span>&nbsp;</div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="Verdana">3. </font>Not that I have a problem with you stating facts like you're automatically right,but...well,yeah.</font></span></div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""><br></font></span></div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"="">The act only got tired because the sequels weren't funny enough.But I can assure you if you see that in other movies or shows it can still work.For example MODERN FAMILY(JAY &amp; PHIL).</font></span></div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"=""><br></font></span></div><div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="apple-style-span"=""><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="apple-style-span"="">It's true that DeNiro's latest movies seem like he just does it for the money.At list Harrison Ford admits it.But what makes you say nobody thinks Stiller is funny anymore?</font></span></div></div></td></tr></table>&nbsp;<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 26 2010 at 1:49pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Yes, I was talking about the 2000 remake with Stiller and De Niro, which was funny at times, but not funny enough -- nor did it have a story that should have gone on to be the trilogy it has become.</td></tr></table><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I'm sorry if you didn't liked it,but the box office results and reviews it got are enough to call it a good remake.</font></span></div><div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vheid</strong></em><br /><br />So could someone tell me what the charm of that first film was, because I could never understand why so many people liked it??</td></tr></table></div></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Aside from what </font></span><b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Burn</font></span></b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"> said,it's the fact that the movie is filled with those funny situations that at first sight seem like you only find them in movies,yet,if you think about it you can relate to most of the movie.</font></span></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />However, Stiller and De Niro being all awkward around each other has lost it's appeal, now 10 years later, in which no one considers Stiller to be funny any more, and De Niro just seems to be going from paycheck to paycheck these days.</td></tr></table></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Not that I have a problem with you stating facts like you're automatically right,but...well,yeah.</font></span></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">The act only got tired because the sequels weren't funny enough.But I can assure you if you see that in other movies or shows it can still work.For example MODERN FAMILY(JAY &amp; PHIL).</font></span></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">It's true that DeNiro's latest movies seem like he just does it for the money.At list Harrison Ford admits it.But what makes you say nobody thinks Stiller is funny anymore?</font></span></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 26 2010 at 10:55am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vheid</strong></em><br /><br /><BR>So could you tell me what the charm of this first film was, because I could never understand why so many people like it.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Well, it's all about timing. Around 1998/1999, Ben Stiller became a star with "Something About Mary" and Robert De Niro was just starting to dip his toes in (successful) comedy with "Analyze This". So for 2000, we had the then-new and popular&nbsp;comedy act of Stiller, joined with the usually serious, now doing light comedy De Niro. Basically, the entire movie is, as I have pointed out before, Stiller doing something awkward that De Niro doesn't aprove of, which results in Stiller being all embrassed and having to explain himself. Also added onto this was the ever relatable "meeting my future parent-inlaws and extended family routine" that every future husband or wife has to go through, in this case, resulting in a comedy of errors. So the succes of the first movie was all in the timing. However, Stiller and De Niro being all awkward around each other has lost it's appeal, now 10 years later, in which no one considers Stiller to be funny any more, and De Niro just seems to be going from paycheck to paycheck these days.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9186">Vheid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 26 2010 at 9:38am<br /><br />So could someone tell me what the charm of that first film was, because I could never understand why so many people liked it?? &nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4721<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 26 2010 at 9:30am<br /><br />Yes, I was talking about the 2000 remake with Stiller and De Niro, which was funny at times, but not funny enough -- nor did it have a story that should have gone on to be the trilogy it has become.]]>
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