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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : I just saw it.It has an interesting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 18 2011 at 4:54pm<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it.</font></span><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">It has an interesting premise and themes,but the first half is too slow and the second half is a walking cliche.And the twist ending was unnecessary.I mean,</font></span><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#FFFFFF"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">it covered the plot holes by stating they were so implaussible because they didn't happen,but what were they trying to tell us exactly with the twist?The plot hole that wasn't coevered was JAKE revealing he caused REMY's accident.So he knew that by busting that thing REMY would have an accident that would conveniently require to give him a new organ and then,in his weak state,continue to be a Repo Men instead of something more calmed like the salesman he wanted to be?!</font></span></font></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Jude Law</font></span></b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"> and </font></span><b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Forrest Whitaker</font></span></b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"> were good.</font></span><b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Alice Braga</font></span></b><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">?Not so much.</font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I give this 4/10.</font></span></div>]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : Yeah, the movie is pretty much...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 01 2010 at 12:14pm<br /><br />Yeah, the movie is pretty much a sci-fi on the infamous "wake in a tub of ice with your kidneys missing" urban legend.]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! :  Might I entertain that this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 31 2010 at 4:33pm<br /><br /><p>Might I entertain that this plot of carving out people's organs by force is similar to a classic urban legend?</p><p>Sorry, I can only post the raw URL, I'm having trouble refining the text... &nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/horrors/robbery/kidney.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/horrors/robbery/kidney.asp</a></p>]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : Personally, I think saving your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 05 2010 at 3:53pm<br /><br />Personally, I think saving your money is common sense, so at least you have it later for something IMPORTANT. Because, when do you really need castles AND islands?]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! :  Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurnYeah,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 05 2010 at 1:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Yeah, just ask Nic Cage, who has to accpect every script that is presented to him so that he can pay for all his MANY houses, cars, comic books, boats, castles, islands, etc.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Glucch! If I ever strike it rich, I'll need to be VERY conservative with my money then. I've just learned that you can't put yourself in a situation to despair for a paycheck. Besides: If I made several Megadollars a year and only spend a few grand of it on luxury, the paparazzi wouldn't be interested. I've seen rap stars precipitating 50 Grand in one night at dance clubs, and come to think of it, I'm surprised and appalled at America's top class for being so loose with their money.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You be the judge with this rant: If I follow these comments, will I have learned from several others mistakes to avoid a bad reputation? Because I wouldn't want to spend my money like that, am I mentally abnormal or un-American? Or do I simply know nothing of being rich?</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 05 2010 at 12:07pm<br /><br />Yeah, just ask Nic Cage, who has to accpect every script that is presented to him so that he can pay for all his MANY houses, cars, comic books, boats, castles, islands, etc.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 05 2010 at 11:53am<br /><br /><P>Even I'd forgotten that they need several Megadollars a month for rent and bills. It's not out of negligence like I'd thought; It's out of desperation.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 05 2010 at 4:50am<br /><br /><div>Oh that's easy -- you just offer to pay their bills and rent for them!</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 04 2010 at 11:34pm<br /><br /><P><FONT size=+0>How do we convince actors to get their act together and READ THE ****E*-**N*-*****N* SCRIPTS AND THINK TWICE BEFORE SIGNING ON?!?!?!</FONT></P>]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : The curse of the post Oscar win...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 03 2010 at 5:03pm<br /><br />The curse of the post Oscar win continues! &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 03 2010 at 4:22pm<br /><br /><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">A part of good acting's based on choosing to be in good movies. Forrest Whitaker was also in </font></span><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/our-family-wedding_forum419.html" target="_blank"><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><u>OUR FAMILY WEDDIN</u></font></a><u>G</u> --</font></span><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">That's 2 failures in the same month! &nbsp;</font></span></div>]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! :  Originally posted by cvcjr13 &amp;#034;May...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 30 2010 at 1:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV><FONT color=#660033 size=6 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">"May I have your liver?" . . .</FONT></DIV><DIV>Seriously, though, there is something to be said about the premise of this movie and current events.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Now, please don't take the following&nbsp;as me being political.&nbsp; I&nbsp;can see that being&nbsp;hard considering all that's gone on lately.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, if you can set aside the politics for a moment,&nbsp;consider what the healthcare industry is doing to us right now with the cost of procedures&nbsp;and lifelong prescriptions that saves our lives, extends our lives, and decreases our chronic pains without ever truly curing us. . . &nbsp; The premise of this movie exaggerates the situation to make a point.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is, it would if it was a good, maybe even a great movie.&nbsp; Too bad it's not.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Headbanger14</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#990000 size=4></FONT></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Who in God's name repos body parts and then leaves the person on the floor to die? Is that some kind of sick joke? </DIV></td></tr></table></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Yeah, I agree with cvc. It's suppose to be political in nature, like Americans losing their homes due to mortage rates or the current debate over health care. But of course, Hollywood takes it to that next level, the level of bad taste, and has hitmen reposessing people's artifical organs! Now if only they would do that on a certain former Vice President by the name of Dick C...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 30 2010 at 12:38am<br /><br /><DIV><FONT color=#660033 size=6 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">"May I have your liver?" . . .</FONT></DIV><DIV>Seriously, though, there is something to be said about the premise of this movie and current events.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Now, please don't take the following&nbsp;as me being political.&nbsp; I&nbsp;can see that being&nbsp;hard considering all that's gone on lately.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, if you can set aside the politics for a moment,&nbsp;consider what the healthcare industry is doing to us right now with the cost of procedures&nbsp;and lifelong prescriptions that saves our lives, extends our lives, and decreases our chronic pains without ever truly curing us. . . &nbsp; The premise of this movie exaggerates the situation to make a point.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is, it would if it was a good, maybe even a great movie.&nbsp; Too bad it's not.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Headbanger14</strong></em><br /><br /></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#990000 size=4></FONT></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Who in God's name repos body parts and then leaves the person on the floor to die? Is that some kind of sick joke? </DIV></td></tr></table> ]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! :  Originally posted by PopcornAvengerThe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 29 2010 at 8:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by PopcornAvenger</strong></em><br /><br />The story actually reminds me of a book by scifi writer Larry Niven, and it was pretty good. It wasn't about artificial parts and repossession, though, but about groups of criminals called "organleggers" that would kidnap people and break them down in surgery rooms for their very valuable organs.&nbsp;The protagonist was a police officer who'd lost an arm and eye, only to learn&nbsp;the replacements he'd received were&nbsp;seized contraband (in other words, taken from innocent victims). <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That would have been a good screenplay, I think. Hell, it was a good book. Kinda do a Blade Runner styled thing,&nbsp;maybe. &nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You could write a good screenplay and hire a decent director; apparently they didn't, and instead went for the "buckets of blood" remedy to try to cover up the poor story. </DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Actually, I thought I saw a novel with the movie's cover on it. So this is either a loosey based adapatation of that novel you mentioned above, or it was just a novelazation (spell?)&nbsp;of the movie.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=809">PopcornAvenger</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 29 2010 at 6:07am<br /><br />The story actually reminds me of a book by scifi writer Larry Niven, and it was pretty good. It wasn't about artificial parts and repossession, though, but about groups of criminals called "organleggers" that would kidnap people and break them down in surgery rooms for their very valuable organs.&nbsp;The protagonist was a police officer who'd lost an arm and eye, only to learn&nbsp;the replacements he'd received were&nbsp;seized contraband (in other words, taken from innocent victims). <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That would have been a good screenplay, I think. Hell, it was a good book. Kinda do a Blade Runner styled thing,&nbsp;maybe. &nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You could write a good screenplay and hire a decent director; apparently they didn't, and instead went for the "buckets of blood" remedy to try to cover up the poor story. </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2587">Headbanger14</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2010 at 9:55pm<br /><br />I'll be honest I liked Jude Law&nbsp;and Forest&nbsp;Whitiker's&nbsp;acting performances, but good GOD, this movie was stupid!<DIV><strong><FONT color=#990000 size=4></FONT></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Who in God's name repos body parts and then leaves the person on the floor to die? Is that some kind of sick joke? As for as Worst Actor or Actress goes, this movie's no contender, but for WORST SCREENPLAY? I'd give it a nomination.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2010 at 2:12pm<br /><br /><P>Considering how beloved Mommie Dearest was...<strong>*** ******!&nbsp;How the ****&nbsp;did Heaven's Gate end up as the second worst movie of 1981 to Mommie Dearest?!?!</strong></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2010 at 8:16am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by PopcornAvenger</strong></em><br /><br />I actually <strong>liked</strong> <EM>Mommie Dearest</EM>.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Greatest comedy ever! Can't get any funnier than "No wire hangers! EVER!". How's that for character development?]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : I actually liked Mommie Dearest....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=809">PopcornAvenger</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2010 at 6:26am<br /><br />I actually <strong>liked</strong> <EM>Mommie Dearest</EM>. ]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : Oh, sorry. Misunderstood. Understand,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 10:08pm<br /><br /><P><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">Oh, sorry.&nbsp; Misunderstood.&nbsp; Understand, too, I'm just in full-on ridicule mode here.&nbsp; It's prompted by the concept of "tradition" and the way it's being applied here.</FONT></P>]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! :  Originally posted by cvcjr13 Ooo,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 9:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>Ooo, nonsequitur with Yoda speak, BHB writes.&nbsp; That certainly refutes the point that HeadRAZZ is as much of RAZZIE tradition as you can get.&nbsp; Oh, yes, it does.&nbsp; I love this logic. . . . <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Second point, it is the OFFICIAL RAZZIE Guide.&nbsp; Of course, it is merely OFFICIAL.&nbsp; I guess for you two, it would have to be the TRADITIONAL RAZZIE Guide to have any sway.&nbsp; Oh, yes, that's good logic, too.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Shall we go to the third point of the faulty logic that&nbsp;movies older than 1979 do not count, because, obviously, only bad movies released during RAZZIE award years count?&nbsp; Please, let's go there!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Oh, and please, don't project your problem on me, will you?&nbsp; I'm not the one using bad logic and glossing it over with the word "tradition", and then turn around and fail to understand, let alone address, logical points when given.</DIV><DIV></td></tr></table></DIV><DIV>Oh no, no, my friend. It was merely a joke and nothing else. It wasn't that your post lacked logic, but the way it was phrased in a type of MWG "you guys don't know what you're talking about" way.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 9:40pm<br /><br /><DIV>Ooo, nonsequitur with Yoda speak, BHB writes.&nbsp; That certainly refutes the point that HeadRAZZ is as much of RAZZIE tradition as you can get.&nbsp; Oh, yes, it does.&nbsp; I love this logic. . . . <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Second point, it is the OFFICIAL RAZZIE Guide.&nbsp; Of course, it is merely OFFICIAL.&nbsp; I guess for you two, it would have to be the TRADITIONAL RAZZIE Guide to have any sway.&nbsp; Oh, yes, that's good logic, too.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Shall we go to the third point of the faulty logic that&nbsp;movies older than 1979 do not count, because, obviously, only bad movies released during RAZZIE award years count?&nbsp; Please, let's go there!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Oh, and please, don't project your problem on me, will you?&nbsp; I'm not the one using bad logic and glossing it over with the word "tradition", and then turn around and fail to understand, let alone address, logical points when given.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br />Just keep being ridiculous, guys.&nbsp; Just keep being ridiculous.&nbsp; Ooo, ooo, there has to be an award for it to be tradition, never mind what HeadRAZZ says.&nbsp; He doesn't count.&nbsp; Ooo ooo. . . . </DIV><DIV></DIV></td></tr></table><BR>Channeling moviewizguy (after being told that M. Night Shy sucks) much?<BR></td></tr></table> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 4:48pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by cvcjr13</strong></em><br /><br />Just keep being ridiculous, guys.&nbsp; Just keep being ridiculous.&nbsp; Ooo, ooo, there has to be an award for it to be tradition, never mind what HeadRAZZ says.&nbsp; He doesn't count.&nbsp; Ooo ooo. . . .<div></div></td></tr></table><br>Channeling moviewizguy (after being told that M. Night Shy sucks) much?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 4:19pm<br /><br />Just keep being ridiculous, guys.&nbsp; Just keep being ridiculous.&nbsp; Ooo, ooo, there has to be an award for it to be tradition, never mind what HeadRAZZ says.&nbsp; He doesn't count.&nbsp; Ooo ooo. . . .<DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 3:11pm<br /><br />Well, saturnwatcher does have a point about the time frame thing. But the award should be named after Cuba Gooding Jr, because his career went to hell after winning his Oscar.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 11:50am<br /><br />I'm simply noting that no serious consideration for "Lifetime Achievement Awards" or any sort of "Worst Movie of whatever time period" awards have ever been seriously considered in the time frame prior to the birth of the Razzies...while I don't have any serious objections to the proposed award being named after Crawford, it is, in fact, rather contrary to Razzie tradition.]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : Actually, the three Crawford movies...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 21 2010 at 3:46am<br /><br />Actually, the three Crawford movies <strong><EM>Strait Jacket</EM></strong>, <strong><EM>Beserk</EM></strong> and <strong><EM>Trog</EM></strong>, along with <strong><EM>Mommie Dearest</EM></strong>,&nbsp;are all listed in HeadRAZZ's <strong><EM>The Official Razzie Movie Guide</EM></strong> as being among HeadRAZZ's 100 movies "so bad that they are good".&nbsp; If that's not enough of a Razzie tradition for this award to be named after Joan Crawford, I don't know what is, and I submit any argument to the contrary to be as ridiculous as the movies thus named.]]>
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   <title>LOTSA GUTS...STILL NO GLORY! : While the Crawford point is well...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 20 2010 at 8:32pm<br /><br />While the Crawford point is well taken, I would point out that the Razzies traditionally haven't paid much attention to movies or actors that came before the award itself. Consequently, Kingsley is more in line with the traditions established. But since Head Razz will ultimately make the final decision on the award and who deserves to carry the name should it be created, I leave the matter in his hands from this point.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 20 2010 at 8:05pm<br /><br />I agree with cvcjr. If we do name this Reverse Lifetime Achievement Award after an past Oscar winning actor or actress whose career went to s***, it should be Joan Crawford for the reasons stated above.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=708">cvcjr13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 20 2010 at 7:23pm<br /><br />Why call it after Ben Kingsley?&nbsp; We should call it after the grand queen of all career flushes down the royal drain herself - Joan Crawford.&nbsp; Not even Kingsley can match the hilarious awfulness of <strong><EM>Strait Jacket</EM></strong>, <strong><EM>Beserk</EM></strong> and <strong><EM>Trog</EM></strong>.&nbsp; And to top it all off, after she died, the movie about her life, starring the very actress Crawford wanted to portray her, <strong><EM>Mommie Dearest</EM></strong>, "won" Worst Picture, Worst Actress (Faye Dunaway), Worst Supporting Actor (Steve Forrest), Worst Supporting Actress (Diana Scarwid), and Worst Picture Of The Decade.&nbsp; Crawford became a Razzie magnet even in her death.&nbsp; This is a steep fall from the&nbsp;performance I saw&nbsp;in <strong><EM>Grand Hotel</EM></strong>.&nbsp; <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><FONT style=": #e9dbb1"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">No, as awful a mess as Ben Kingsley made of his career of late, please don't name it after him when there is certainly one other who made a bigger mess out of her career.</FONT></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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