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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :    I didn&amp;#039;t get my RAZZIE...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9875">jesse685</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 22 2012 at 12:19pm<br /><br />I didn't get my RAZZIE Nominating Ballot because I didn't have the money to become a Voting Member -- plus, there's also my parents, whom I feel want to stop me because they actually think&nbsp;some of the contenders are good movies.]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :    My Nominating Ballot came...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 22 2012 at 8:06am<br /><br />My Nominating Ballot came at the beginning of January. I turned it in the day it was due (the day before Bucky Larson came out on DVD) -- that's the only reason Bucky wasn't marked all over my ballot. Other than that, I won't reveal my Nominating Ballot choices.]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION : When did you get your nominating...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 22 2012 at 12:46am<br /><br />When did you get your nominating ballot?]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION : Either Ezio or Altair, whatever....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9875">jesse685</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 21 2012 at 10:35pm<br /><br />Either Ezio or Altair, whatever.<br />]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :   Time to end my Liefeldian...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 21 2012 at 9:50pm<br /><br />Time to end my Liefeldian schedule and actually review something.<div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong>The good:</strong></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Jason Issacs: Issacs plays Lautner's fake dad. His scenes with him show that Issacs truely cares for his fake son. So, of course, he ends up dead.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong>The bad:</strong></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Alfred Molina: Molina plays a dirty government agent after Lautner and his dim-bulb brain girlfriend. He's bland as Hell and I voted for him on my nominating ballot.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Sigourney Weaver: Weaver plays Lautner's therapist... or is she? Her acting is well below her usual standard and it's clear she's aware of it.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Michael Nyqvist: He plays the big bad of the movie. At one point, he threatens to kill Lautner's Facebook friends. Fortunately, Michael was in Mission: Impossible 4, so that must aliviate the pain.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong>The ugly:</strong></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Lily Collins: Collins is just bad here as Lautner's dim-bulb brained girlfriend. Her main purporse is to kiss Taylor and get captured.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>John Singleton and Shawn Christensen: Singleton is the down-on-his-luck director who's forced to direct brain-dead star vehicles. Christensen is the brain-dead writer (and singer for a band called Stellastarr*, yes really) who crapped out this script.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Taylor Lautner: Last year, Robert Pattinson gave a decent performance in the decent movie Water For Elephants, which was a decent box-office hit. He may not be in a bread-line in a couple years. Lautner, on the other hand, is <em>definitely</em> going to be there! Kristen Stewart well probably be there too, so he won't be alone. Casting Lautner in this was a massively dumb move. Teenage girls only care about him when he's Jacob and teenage boys <em>loath</em> him. Sane movie-goers agree with the teenage boys.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Apparantly, the last shot of <font color="#ffffff">Taylor's real dad </font>is an homage to Assassin's Creed. As someone who's blown hours on the Assassin's Creed series, may Altair slay Shawn Christensen where he stands. Grade: D-</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Next-up: Bucky Larson!!!!</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :    I&amp;#039;ll get back to reviewing...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 31 2011 at 6:43am<br /><br />I'll get back to reviewing regular movies next week. There's a bunch of movies that I've seen that have forums here, but are are virtually unreviewable. Specifically, Bunraku and The Undefeated.<em>(Edit: and The Art Of Getting By.)</em>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION : After you finish watching ABDUCTION,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 31 2011 at 6:14am<br /><br /><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">After you finish watching ABDUCTION, will you review it? Or are you busy with next week?&nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter</strong></em><br /><br />I started watching it and so far, so bad.</td></tr></table></span></font></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :  Well, I plan to watch all of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 30 2011 at 10:21pm<br /><br />Well, I plan to watch all of the movies on the Razzie nominating ballot before I vote so...unfortunately, I will know what you mean soon enough...*groan*]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :       This is currently...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 30 2011 at 7:19pm<br /><br />This is currently available OnDemand for a fee of $6.99 instead of the regular $4.99 because it's not on DVD yet. I started watching it and so far, so bad.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Also, I've ponied up the $35 to become a Razzie voter!!! &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b style="color: rgb204, 0, 51; "><font color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</font> </b>Glad to have you among our&nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 25px; ">Voting</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 25px; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">RAZZIE</font><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2">®</font></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">&nbsp;Members at last!&nbsp;</span></div><div><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">I recently paid $7.99 to see ABDUCTION on FIOS pay-per-view myself -- and it's likely to be <i>all over</i> the Nominating Ballot -- possibly in as many as EIGHT CATEGORIES.</font></div><div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; ">BTW: As at least one review noted (and I noticed during one of the 357 dull parts in the movie) at no point is anyone in this movie eve actually abducted -- so even the title is dumb! &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div><div><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION :  I hope not. Based on how the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 23 2011 at 3:32pm<br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I hope not. Based on how the movie turned out, its being a vehicle for Lautner is almost a valid excuse.</font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 23 2011 at 1:52pm<br /><br /><div>Maybe it wasn't meant to be a Lautner "vehicle" before shooting began. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it's possible it could have been a regular film until the studio decided to make it with Lautner. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><div><font size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I thought the script was written specifically for Lautner -- Isn't that what "vehicle" means? &nbsp;</font></div></td></tr></table>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 23 2011 at 9:37am<br /><br /><div><font size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I thought the script was written specifically for Lautner -- Isn't that what "vehicle" means? &nbsp;</font></div><div><font size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by moviewizguy</strong></em><br /><br />The supporting castmembers are so talented it makes you wonder what got them in this film. One hopes that they were signed onto the film before Lautner was cast to be the lead.</td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9505">mbh</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 22 2011 at 10:58pm<br /><br />Moviewizguy, I agree with you in some parts. The movie was a joke, no action (running around and jumping over gates is no action) and illogical plot twists (phone with secret codes randomly laying around on the desk). In the first two minutes, while Lautner was laying on the car hood, he already annoyed the heck out of me. Absolutely awful actor. And I think he is pretty much talent free. On the other hand, he's only 18 or 19. <br>]]>
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   <title>Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION : I like the compelling premise,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 22 2011 at 9:29pm<br /><br />I like the compelling premise, but the execution is so mind-numbingly bad it boggles the mind. In one scene, this bad guy kidnaps the girlfriend in the train and asks her where Lautner's character is....but before she was kidnapped, she was walking to Lautner in the first place! The supporting castmembers are so talented it makes you wonder what got them in this film. One hopes that they were signed onto the film before Lautner was casted to be the lead. Overall, the script was terrible, the action scenes were executed in an amateurish way (the train sequence, in particular, is a riot), and Lautner failed to carry the film on his shoulders. I think Lautner can be a decent actor if he has a good director looking out for him. For example, I thought he was pretty decent in Breaking Dawn, but he really couldn't sell the action hero persona in <i>Abduction</i>. <b>1.5/10</b><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 04 2011 at 5:29pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it,and gave it 4/10.</font><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">F.Y.C.:</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Actor for <b>Taylor Lautner</b>:Yes.While I'm gonan list the flaws in this movie,becuase it's a vehicle it all relies on him.After the first 3 movies of a certain saga I came to the conclusion that with the right director(and maybe some luck)he can be an average actor at best,and this movie is the proof.There are many details to take in account when rating a performance,but at the end what matters it's if the actor can show emotions,and he just doesn't have that talent.I do admire that he did his own stunts...but if that's the case,he should be a stunt double instead.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Supp. Actor for <b>Alfred Molina</b>,<b>Jason Isaacs</b>(also for <b>HARRY POTTER</b> 7 1/2) or <b>Michael Nyqvist</b>;Supp. Actress for <b>Maria Bello</b> or <b>Sigourney Weaver</b>;Couple/Ensemble:No.They are aware nobody is watching the movie because of them,so they don't anything memorable(good or bad).And the leads have a decent chemistry*.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Supp. Actress for <b>Lily Collins:Yes</b>.Though she wasn't as bad as in <b>PRIEST</b>,she was bad...and she was in <b>PRIEST</b>.<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Director:No.While the action sequences** aren't thrilling,<b>John Singleton</b>*** makes them watchable.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Screenplay;Remake/Rip-Off:Sure.As stated in my previous post,this is a rip-off even by details.Actually,the premise is also taken from a TV movie called THE FACE ON THE CARTON MILK****.However,we should give it credit for not making the same mistake most <b>JASON BOURNE</b>-wannabes make:the explanation at the climax isn't overly complicated,and it doesn't make the plot ridiculous.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Picture:No.Despite being so generic,and feeling as if it was made in no more than a week,there were just worse movies this year.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">*When they're making out,he doesn't take his shirt off.Instead,he takes it at one point where it doesn't make sense and they just come up with an excuse for it.</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">**While the trailer shows us a bunch of action sequences,most of them happen together.At the end,only a fraction of the movie shows action!</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">***This is the first of his movies I've watched.Whadda shame!</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">****My prediction came true:</font></div><div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">So he's just the boy next door, who happens to find out he's adopted. Sounds like a Lifetime TV movie.</font></td></tr></table></div></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 13 2011 at 6:23am<br /><br /><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">If this makes it onto the Nominating Ballots (aside from a combined Worst Actor shot for Lautner) I hope it will be considered for Worst Rip-off -- Since even the <u>poster</u> is a rip-off of the BOURNE films:&nbsp;</font><div><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><br></span></font></div><div><img src="http://www.quotesmovies.com/wp-c&#111;ntent/uploads/abducti&#111;n-movie-poster-11.jpg" border="0" />&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=106871">CaitPes81</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 11 2011 at 9:32pm<br /><br /><div>2 "Likes"! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by thomsonmg2000</strong></em><br /><br />While critics are calling Bucky Larson about as funny as a brain tumor, one critic is calling Abduction one of the funniest film of the year! Looks like Hollywood is getting the case of misplaced priorities.<br><br><a href="http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/abducti&#111;n-movie-review20110922.aspx" target="_blank">Link</a></td></tr></table><br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 05 2011 at 4:49pm<br /><br />I know Julia Jones, who stars as the lone female werewolf in "Twilight" is actually Native American. I think everyone else in the "werewolf tribe" is actually Hispanic in real life (which, of course, is pissing off people of actual Native American descent!).]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9505">mbh</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 30 2011 at 12:23am<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span">Lautner is not Native American. He </span>just pretends to be in T<span ="Apple-style-span">wilight.<br></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 29 2011 at 10:48am<br /><br />I agree. Not even a director who had the talent of Hitchcock, Spielberg, and Welles all infused into him could make an actor like Lautner look good! &nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Lord Naseby</strong></em><br /><br /><div>Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2.</td></tr></table></div><div>But that plays back to what a GOOD director who knows how to properly use Ar-nold can do. James Cameron saw that Arnold worked best as a big, menacing figure who barely ever speaks, and that is why it worked so well in the "Terminator" movies. Just have Arnold walking around with anger or a blank expression on his, and the few times that he does speak, make it catchy. It worked for Arnold, but it doesn't work for every single person who appears in an action movie, especially when they are a teenager with barely any talent.</td></tr></table></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1568">SchumacherH8ter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 29 2011 at 5:23am<br /><br />Can anyone who's seen this answer a question: Does Lautner <i>know</i> in the film that he's adopted? It was bugging me because I thought he was Native American, while Maria Bello and Jason Isaacs are white. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: </font></b>I think I read in a review that he first learns he was adopted at the beginning of the film... &nbsp;</font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 27 2011 at 5:45pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Lord Naseby</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2.</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>But that plays back to what a GOOD director who knows how to properly use Ar-nold can do. James Cameron saw that Arnold worked best as a big, menacing figure who barely ever speaks, and that is why it worked so well in the "Terminator" movies. Just have Arnold walking around with anger or a blank expression on his, and the few times that he does speak, make it catchy. It worked for Arnold, but it doesn't work for every single person who appears in an action movie, especially when they are a teenager with barely any talent.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 8:49pm<br /><br /><div>Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2. Lautner has played the same role his entire career and will play the same role through the rest of his (probably short) career. Once his looks are gone, there is nothing to keep him in the spotlight. If he had his same level of talent and looked like Yul Brynner, do you think we would ever have heard of him? Of course not!</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by DistinguishedFlyer</strong></em><br /><br />You don't have to be much of an actor to be an action star - Schwarzenegger is the classic example. But you do need a certain presence and gravity so that the audience believes you can actually take on bad guys &amp; defeat them. Schwarzenegger had that, and his movies (or should I say their directors) quickly learned how to highlight his good qualities &amp; draw attention away from his deficiencies.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:n&#111;ne"></div><div><br></div><div>Lautner does not have that - at least not yet, and perhaps never will. You simply don't take him seriously enough, and it's not just because of his past movies (though they certainly don't help him out).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to make a flat prediction right now - he will win the Razzie for this movie (and for the Twilight film). It'll be either one nomination for both films (which will guarantee a landslide win) or one lead &amp; one supporting. And perhaps he'll win in <i>both</i> categories . . . &nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br><br>Schwarzenegger also has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome very likable hero in T2. Lautner has played the same role his entire career and will play the same role through the rest of his probably short career. Once the looks are gone, there is nothing to keep him in the spotlight. If he had the same level of talent and looked like Yul Brenner do you think we would have heard of him? Of course not!<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 5:17pm<br /><br /><a href="http://movieswithmitch.squarespace.com/top-five/post/1606064" target="_blank"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Check this list made by my buddy/critic&nbsp;<b>Mitch</b> about how to get rid of <b>Lautner</b>.</font></a>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 5:09pm<br /><br /><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Well,<b>Lautner</b> does have <u>some</u> charisma.But I see that mostly in real life instead of his movies.</font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 4:48pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by DistinguishedFlyer</strong></em><br /><br />You don't have to be much of an actor to be an action star - Schwarzenegger is the classic example. But you do need a certain presence and gravity so that the audience believes you can actually take on bad guys &amp; defeat them. Schwarzenegger had that, and his movies (or should I say their directors) quickly learned how to highlight his good qualities &amp; draw attention away from his deficiencies. <DIV style="DISPLAY: n&#111;ne" id=isChromeWebToolbarDiv></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Lautner does not have that - at least not yet, and perhaps never will. You simply don't take him seriously enough, and it's not just because of his past movies (though they certainly don't help him out).&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Exactly! It was mentioned why Jason Statham is a lead in action movies.&nbsp;Because #1. He has the right look. #2. He has just enough acting/charisma and fighting skills for a director to use within the context of an action movie. Lautner has neither&nbsp;of these qualities. He can't act his way out of a wet paper bag, and even with the ripped body that he has,&nbsp;he still looks like a high schooler. Statham has a tough guy appeal and he will beat the living day lights out of everyone around him, and that's why he's the current day action hero. That and getting the torch passed to him by Stallone in&nbsp;"The Expendables" doesn't hurt either, but then again, that's not saying much of him as a dramatic actor.&nbsp; ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10682">whatsthepoint</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 11:53am<br /><br />The only thing that Lautner fans (or fans of Twilight in general) have to be thankful for is that Abduction did better than a Jason Statham film with a higher production budget &nbsp;-- Why the hell does Statham keep getting lead roles when his movies never make any money?!?&nbsp;<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9051">Film Reel Redemption</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 26 2011 at 5:22am<br /><br /><P><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">Time to start clearing your shelves Lautner, there may be a golden spray-painted piece of fruit coming your way (unless of course Captain OTT gets his hands on it first)...</FONT></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 25 2011 at 2:33pm<br /><br /><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 22px; font-size: medium; ">Does the review quoted below mean Lautner is just unexperienced, or bad? If so, is he just bad, or so bad he's officially a bad actor in general?</span></div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">R.T.(3-7%):"A soulless and incompetent action/thriller not even a veteran lead actor could save,let alone <b>Taylor Lautner</b>".</font></td></tr></table><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="line-height: 22px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"=""><div style="margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry</strong></em><br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><font ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; ">For 2011, were Lautner to be dually nominated again, he would logically be listed in our&nbsp;<i>Worst Actor</i>&nbsp;(rather than&nbsp;<i>Worst Supporting Actor</i>) category for both this film and one of this year's most anticipated RAZZIE</font><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="line-height: 14px; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="2">®</font></span><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; line-height: 22px; ">&nbsp;titles,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1324999/" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><u>TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING WIND PART I</u></font></a>.</span></font></td></tr></table>&nbsp;</div><div style="margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; font-size: medium; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-weight: normal; ">I know, but my question was if it's a fact if he'll be listed as lead, or do you have to wait? Because </span><b>Pattison</b> was listed as lead too, but the year before was supporting. &nbsp;</div><div style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; font-size: medium; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; font-size: medium; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><br></div><div style="margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZBerry:</font></b> As I mentioned in a 2007 discussion on this Forum, Pattinson's role in the second TWLIGHT movie was marginalized (his character disappeared for almost half of the movie) while in ECLIPSE, Lautner and Pattinson had approximately equal screen time (as it appears they may have in BREAKING DAWN)...</font><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; ">&nbsp;</font></div><div style="margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; "><br></font></div><div style="margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="line-height: 22px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; font-size: medium; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><br></div></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">HeadRAZZBerry</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5402<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 25 2011 at 2:26pm<br /><br /><span ="apple-style-span"="" style=": rgb244, 242, 191; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><font ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; "><b><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#cc0033">RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:&nbsp;</font>Lautner</b>&nbsp;was dually nominated as&nbsp;<i>Worst Actor</i>&nbsp;of 2010 for his roles in both TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE and VALENTINE'S DAY (<a href="http://www.razzies.com/history/2010-worst-actor.asp" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>LINK</u></b></font></a>). He "lost" to one of his VALENTINE'S DAY co-stars (who was dually nominated for that film and the megaton B.O. bomb KILLERS)&nbsp;<b>Ashton Kutcher</b>&nbsp;(<a href="http://razzies.com/history/2010-worst-actor-winner.asp" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><b><u>LINK</u></b></font></a>).&nbsp;</font></font></span><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style=": rgb244, 242, 191; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><font ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; "><br></font></font></span></div><div><span ="apple-style-span"="" style=": rgb244, 242, 191; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><font ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; ">For 2011, were Lautner to be dually nominated again, he would logically be listed in our&nbsp;<i>Worst Actor</i>&nbsp;(rather than&nbsp;<i>Worst Supporting Actor</i>) category for both this film and one of this year's most anticipated RAZZIE</font><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="line-height: 14px; "><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="2">®</font></span><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: large; line-height: 22px; ">&nbsp;titles,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1324999/" target="_blank"><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="4" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#000000"><u>TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING WIND PART I</u></font></a>.</span></font><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 22px; font-size: medium; ">&nbsp;</span></span></div>]]>
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