The Official RAZZIE® Forum : Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL http://www.razzies.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The Official RAZZIE® Forum : TOTAL RECOIL : Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL Wed, 22 May 2013 10:06:55 +0000 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:39:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.70 360 www.razzies.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5927 The Official RAZZIE® Forum http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_images/RazzieLogo02.gif http://www.razzies.com/forum/ Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Even more than Red Dawn, I... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=53317#53317 Author: cvcjr13
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Posted: December 30 2012 at 7:39pm

Even more than Red Dawn, I dislike the idea of remaking Total Recall, because the original was a good, fun movie.  That said, I imagine that the reason for remaking Total Recall was because of (1) the money and (2) because they can make the three-boobed woman look more realistic.  I mean, there's the three-boobed woman at the end of the credits in Good Luck Chuck (no, that movie is not at all worth watching just to see what I'm talking about) that looked realistic, so why not remake Total Recall so that character looks all the more better. . . .
 
I'm joking about reason #2, of course.  Actually, I'm shaking my head wondering if that could have actually entered the calculus of justifying this movie. . . .
 
And as far as reason #1 goes, that's turned out to be a joke, also.  According to Box Office Mojo, it pulled in a worldwide box office of $198 million, and it cost $125 million to make.  If the rule of thumb that a movie needs to bring in double what it costs in order to turn a profit still holds true, Total Recall 2012 will be lucky to break even after all the various revenue streams have been tapped.
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Posted: September 22 2012 at 1:41pm

Skip to 03:19.

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Any thoughts?
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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 23 2012 at 9:25am

And sometimes too hard. Seriously, Ebert giving a rotten review to Robot & Frank, which as of right now has a 90% fresh and 89% audience approval, and giving a fresh one to Total Recall with 32% rotten critic and audience reviews is Wacko.
In his review for Robot&Frank he is kind of convincing us of flaws, while calling Total Recall "well crafted" and almost excusing the flaws.

Originally posted by Vits

While I mostly respect those critics, they do go easy on movies from time to time. You can tell because their arguements are less about explaining the flaws and more about convincing us why the flaws exist.
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Posted: August 23 2012 at 7:19am

While I mostly respect those critics, they do go easy on movies from time to time. You can tell because their arguements are less about explaining the flaws and more about convincing us why the flaws exist. In this case, I'd say they follow a rule some critics use: when judging a remake, they judge it on it's own (pretending they don't know what's going to happen), and then add or substract points depending on what it does to improve or not the original film.
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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 22 2012 at 11:43pm

I can't believe Richard Roeper AND Roger Ebert gave this mess of a remake a fresh review. Looking at Roeper's Rotten Tomatoe resumee, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/richard-roeper/ , on his display site alone he gave a fresh review to 11 (!) rotten movies! Tastes can be different, but as he's a Top Critic I would expect him to be a little more inline, if movies are so obvioulsy rotten. Just an observation of mine, even if the agreement meter is in the 70ies for both of them.
If you look at Peter Travers site for example,  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/peter-travers/, he is way more inline with the general concensus of a movie lately.
]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:43:23 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=52011#52011 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Originally posted by Head RAZZberryWhy... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51975#51975 Author: Vits
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 19 2012 at 12:07pm

Originally posted by Head RAZZberry

Why would you assume our Worst Prequel/Remake/Rip-Off/Sequel category has to be for only one type of bad movie and not include the other?? Maybe that's why you've not received an answer -- to my thinking, either/both types of lazy movie-making should be dis-honored here.
Sometimes, a movie is bad overall but it improves something the original had. So I just wanted to know the purpose of the award. But your statement was your answer.
Originally posted by Head RAZZberry

Also, if you say TOTAL RECALL qualifies for consideration as both/either kind of bad movie, why would you suggest that it be nominated in only this one category? Please feel free to explain your thinking either below this text or in a new posting...
If I judge it as a stand alone movie, it's passable. If I compare it to the original, I'd say it ruins some of its most important aspects. So overall, I found it to be on the same level as the original: bad but not the worst. Now that I think about it, maybe it should be up for Worst Screenplay too.

I recommend movies I gave 0 and 1 stars for Worst Picture, and movies I gave 0, 1 and 2 stars for categories like Worst Remake or Sequel, Worst Excuse for a [Genre] Movie, etc. It makes more sense mathematically, because those categories are for more specific movies, which narrows down the possibilities.
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Posted: August 18 2012 at 6:46pm

I went to the movies and saw this. I wasn't planning to, but I went with my grandpa and my 10-year-old cousin, so there weren't many options).

For years I've asked (and gotten no answer) if the Worst Remake/Sequel award is for (A) The worst movies which happen to be remakes or sequels or (B) The remakes or sequels that are bad compared to the originals. This time it doesn't matter, because this movie is both. So I think it should definitely be nominated for that award. But nothing else.


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Why would you assume our Worst Prequel/Remake/Rip-Off/Sequel category has to be for only one type of bad movie and not include the other?? Maybe that's why you've not received an answer -- to my thinking, either/both types of lazy movie-making should be dis-honored here. 

Also, if you say TOTAL RECALL qualifies for consideration as both/either kind of bad movie, why would you suggest that it be nominated in only this one category? Please feel free to explain your thinking either below this text or in a new posting...
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Posted: August 07 2012 at 6:15pm

[TUBE]9N7xoDosKqU[/TUBE]]]> Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:15:20 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51841#51841 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Movies With Mitch gave it a 2.5/5.... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51834#51834 Author: Vits
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 06 2012 at 6:22pm

Movies With Mitch gave it a 2.5/5.]]> Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:22:11 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51834#51834 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Vits, the trailer showed... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51814#51814 Author: SchumacherH8ter
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 03 2012 at 6:46pm

Vits, the trailer showed the three boobed lady. When a trailer shows something, it's fair game, and doesn't need a "spoiler whiteout."  

As for why she's still here, it was one of the iconic scenes from the first one. In the commentary track I mentioned a few posts above, that's all Ah-nuld seems to talk about when Paul Verhoeven isn't saying "izznit?". The fact that they had to put the three boobed lady shows how serious they were about adapting the original story. I wouldn't mention this except that they said they wanted this to be more faithful.
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Posted: August 03 2012 at 4:18pm

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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 03 2012 at 10:30am

R.T. (around 30%): "While it boasts some impressive action sequences, it lacks the intricate plotting, wry humor, and fleshed out characters that made the original a sci-fi classic".

Jeff Beck gave it a 2/4.
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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 03 2012 at 10:27am

[TUBE]GJSanoecgXE[/TUBE]]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:27:46 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51807#51807 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Sorry, but I've already heard... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51806#51806 Author: Vits
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 7:49pm

Sorry, but I've already heard that joke a bunch of times. And not just on this Forum.

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: My favorite headline/joke this morning was in The Orange County Register: WHO ORDERED THE TOTAL REHASH?!?

By the way, I read that this version doesn't take place on Mars, and yet, they still show the girl with 3 breasts.  

Originally posted by oiram

Originally posted by jesse685

oiram: There's plenty of other contenders for Worst Actress, but Kate Beckinsale might have a shot with Contraband, Underworld Awakening and Total Rema-I mean Recall.
 
Hey! That's my joke.
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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 7:23pm

Well, I'd go and see Wimpy Kid 3 (if it wasn't for the September release here in Australia, goddammit!) rather than Total Rema-I mean Recall.]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:23:31 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51805#51805 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : I'm still looking forward... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51802#51802 Author: moviewizguy
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 6:46pm

I'm still looking forward to the film even with the negative reviews. I saw the original around last month for the first time and enjoyed it immensely. It seems this one is much more serious, which should be enough for a different experience.]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:46:00 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51802#51802 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : oiram: Sorry, just wanted... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51801#51801 Author: jesse685
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 5:41pm

oiram: Sorry, just wanted to see your reaction. Now, back on topic. I bet Farrell and the rest of the cast and crew are laughing their way to the bank.]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:41:31 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51801#51801 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Hey! That's MY joke!! Originally... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51800#51800 Author: oiram
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 4:22pm

Hey! That's MY joke!!  

Originally posted by jesse685

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Why did they remake it -- To make more money!
OF COURSE!!!
 
oiram: There's plenty of other contenders for Worst Actress, but Kate Beckinsale might have a shot with Contraband, Underworld Awakening and Total Rema-I mean Recall.
 

]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:22:16 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51800#51800 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : TO MAKE MONEY, OF COURSE!!!Oiram:... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51799#51799 Author: jesse685
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 4:09pm

TO MAKE MONEY, OF COURSE!!!
 
Oiram: There's plenty of other contenders for Worst Actress, but Kate Beckinsale might still have a shot with the combination of Contraband, Underworld: Awakening and Total Remak-I mean Recall.  

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Why did they remake it -- To make more money!
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 2:21pm

Roger Ebert gave it a 3/4.]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:21:44 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51798#51798 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Why did they remake it -- To make... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51797#51797 Author: SchumacherH8ter
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 12:55pm

Why did they remake it -- To make more money!]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:55:30 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51797#51797 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : The other day I went to... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51794#51794 Author: Vits
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 12:34pm

The other day I went to see THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (no, it shouldn't be nominated for any Razzies). Anyway, they showed the trailer for this, and I wanted to pay full attention to see if there were any noticeable improvements from the first version. I couldn't because I was totally shocked by the fact that they revealed most of the plot twists! It was like they expect people to remember the first one. If so, why did they remake it?]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:34:14 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51794#51794 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : Apparantly, her role in this... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51792#51792 Author: SchumacherH8ter
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 9:50am

Apparantly, her role in this is bigger than Sharon Stone's in the original. Probably because she's married to the director. So a Worst Actress nod for Beckinsale isn't out of the picture.
 
Also, has anyone ever watched the original with the commentary on? It's hilarious! Arnold really enjoys watching his movies and it shows.
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Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:47am

I'm curious about this. Could Kate Beckinsale be considered Worst Actress for the film, even though she's really playing the villain?
 
She was already in Contraband and Underworld 4 as the main co-star/main star, so why not?
]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:47:55 +0000 http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51791#51791 Member Discussion of TOOT-ALL RECALL : FOR THOSE WHO RECALL IT, the ORIGINAL... http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5927&PID=51790#51790 Author: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: 5927
Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:06am

FOR THOSE WHO RECALL IT, the ORIGINAL VERSION of THIS MATERIAL WAS FAIRLY GOOD -- BUT HARDLY DESERVING (or DEMANDING) a REMAKE. 

BUT with HOLLYWOOD's CURRENT AVERSION to ALL THINGS ORIGINAL, HERE's THAT REMAKE NO ONE WAS ASKING FOR! 

IT STARS 2004 WORST ACTOR NOMINEE COLIN FARRELL, MULTI-TIME RAZZIE® NOMINEE JESSICA BIEL and PEARL HARBOR SURVIVOR (and FELLOW/FEMALE RAZZIE® NOMINEE) KATE BECKINSALE. IT HAS FIVE NAMES on ITS SCREENPLAY, and HAS APPARENTLY BEEN SITTING on a SHELF in a VAULT SOMEWHERE for SEVERAL MONTHS. 

ALL of THIS, COMBINED with THIS FILM's DISMAL ROTTEN TOMATOES RATING on the EVE of ITS RELEASE, CLEARLY INDICATE THAT TOTAL RECALL (aka THE TOTALLY UN-NECESSARY REMAKE) IS LIKELY to BE "ONE of OURS"... 

BUT WE'RE GATHERED HERE to HEAR YOUR TAKE on THIS, SO...  

HAVE AT IT! 


P.S. IF YOU WANNA CHECK OUT OUR FOTO FUNNY on THIS ONE, HERE's the LINK for THAT... 


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