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   <title>Members&#039; Discussion of FINAL D 5 in 3-D : Usually I expect more of the same,but...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 09 2011 at 12:28pm<br /><br /><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">Usually I expect more of the same,but most reviews said that the movie was fresh and stuff.<br><br>As for the "killing someone saves yourself"...that's a pretty good debate,but I didn't feel they use it well.I mean,they don't really debate about it,they just expected us to assume everything.Also,how was it satisfying that </font><font color="#ffffff" face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">the guy had to kill his brother and then it's like he doesn't care</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">?And it's not that different.In most of these movies there are points where the characters start fighting each other for whatever reason.</font><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 09 2011 at 10:17am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3">-As everyone knows,the main characters start dying one by one.The first death was great.The producers promised this to be dark like the 1st movie(the 4th one <u>tried</u> to be a comedy),and it was true.While the moment of the death was shown with a twisted humour everything leading up to it was thrilling.Needless to say they took out the Slasher Flick feeling that was in the 1st one.</td></tr></table><br><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="4">Yes, the first death is amazing. The effective use of cross cutting and build up made the suspense so unbearable and the fact that the outcome of the death is so much worse than what you were expecting (there were lots of red herrings in this one) in the first place makes it a highlight in the film. Also, I liked the little moment when the rubber band breaks. That added a "$hit just got real" aspect to the whole scene.</font><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote">-The next 3 deaths focus less on scarying and more on having things jump to the screen,the fatal mistake in the 4th movie.</td></tr></table><br><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I still thought the deaths had a sense of uneasiness to them. Anything dealing with things going into an eye makes me really uncomfortable, along with needles in the body. I liked how they made it squeamish. However, the results of the deaths are less worse than the build up to them. Also, they were really effective to see in 3D.<br><br></font></font><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3">But during the middle I felt they were actually following the format step by step,and it made me glad that the movie is only 90 minutes long.I mean,the "We weren't meant to survive" speech is said at least 3 times!After it was over,I realized that I didn't had a bad time,but it was just more of the same.</font></td></tr></table><br>But "more of the same" isn't really a complaint is it? Those who go watch these films (especially for the fifth time) will expect more of the same. However, the addition of "killing someone saves yourself" aspect of it made it more different from the rest of the sequels. The way it played out in the climax was very satisfying and different from your usual Final Destination climax.<br></div>]]>
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   <title>Members&#039; Discussion of FINAL D 5 in 3-D :  I just saw it.Before I start,I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 08 2011 at 4:45pm<br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it.Before I start,I warn you I won't write spoilers in white.I won't write spoilers at all.</font><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I'm <i>berry</i> dissapointed,with everybody saying it was the best of the franchise.Similar to <b>SchumacherH8ter</b>'s system,I'll judge this death by death:</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-As everyone knows,these movies open with a big disaster where only the main characters survive.That was one of the best scenes I've seen all year.I grabbed the seat as hard as I could,the FX were better than the previous installments,etc.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-As everyone knows,the main characters start dying one by one.The first death was great.The producers promised this to be dark like the 1st movie(the 4th one <u>tried</u> to be a comedy),and it was true.While the moment of the death was shown with a twisted humour everything leading up to it was thrilling.Needless to say they took out the Slasher Flick feeling that was in the 1st one.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-The next 3 deaths focus less on scarying and more on having things jump to the screen,the fatal mistake in the 4th movie.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-The 5th death was just stupid,maily because of the characters' reactions to it.It honestly felt like a B/C/Z movie.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-As everyone knows,these movies climax on 2-3 characters surviving...only to then be killed in the last couple of seconds before it fades to black.Here they added a twist to it.I was having a discussion to the other day with my classmates.One recomended us not to see DREAM HOUSE.She said "Not because it has a twist,but because it's a twist that makes it all look like a waste of time".The twist here wasn't like that,but it still didn't contributed except for a nice surprise.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">To sum up,when it started I was glad to see the makers were toying with the idea of the audience thinking we know everything that will happen,which is also reflected in the ending*.But during the middle I felt they were actually following the format step by step,and it made me glad that the movie is only 90 minutes long.I mean,the "We weren't meant to survive" speech is said at least 3 times!After it was over,I realized that I didn't had a bad time,but it was just more of the same.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I give it 4/10.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">F.Y.C.:</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Actor;Actress;Supp. Actor;Supp. Actress:No,nobody highlighted.Although I'd like to point out that in each installment the characters become less and less interesting and more and more one-dimensional,making it hard for the actors to do a god job even if they try.Also,<b>Miles Fisher</b>,who is "known" for his impersonation of <b>Tom Cruise</b>,is unaware that he keeps doing that here.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Ensemble:Maybe.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Prequel/Sequel;Excuse For Horror Movie:Yes.</font></div><div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">-Director;Screenplay;Couple;Picture:No.</font></div></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">*This was the reason why the LOST episode THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS is one of the best in TV history.Agree?</font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 12 2011 at 5:39am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Lord Naseby</strong></em><br /><br />Considering that this one got the highest reviews out of any of them, a positive rating to boot, this shouldn't get noms. But I will say one thing, these films are not subtle in any way shape or form.</td></tr></table><br>They're not supposed to be. <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22485">Lord Naseby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 11 2011 at 9:41pm<br /><br />Considering that this one got the highest reviews out of any of them, a positive rating to boot, this shouldn't get noms. But I will say one thing, these films are not subtle in any way shape or form.]]>
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   <title>Members&#039; Discussion of FINAL D 5 in 3-D :   Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurnThe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 03 2011 at 1:57pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />The whole thing with RT is a joke anyway.</td></tr></table><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Even though most times <b>HeadRAZZ</b> posts the Metacritic link as well,a lot of times he posts the R.T. link only.You're not the first nor the last person to complain that their system is flawed.The thing is nobody thinks it's perfect,it's just that there's no other site like those 2.What do you suggest?</font></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />MWG treats it like some kind of seal of approval.</td></tr></table></div><div><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I don't mind that he goes by what R.T. says,a lot of people do.But it <u>is</u> true that sometimes he make a big deal if a movie gets a 60%.That's hanging on to crumbles.</font></div>]]>
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   <title>Members&#039; Discussion of FINAL D 5 in 3-D : This has nothing to do with themovie,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 02 2011 at 8:43pm<br /><br />This has nothing to do with the&nbsp;movie, because we're going to forget that it even exists by this time next year. Three things:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>1. The whole thing with RT is a joke anyway. MWG treats it like some kind of seal of approval. It's like "so long as it's 60% or higher, it's okay to say it's a good movie and that I enjoyed it, because professional critics agree with me". It's like gay couples in a parade due to New York now accepting gay marriage, it's okay to come out of the closet because it's now socially acceptable. Same thing here with MWG and his beloved RT ratings. He did the same thing with "Orphan" last year when he was counting down it just barely reaching 59%. It's just stupid bulls*** he does. The kid sees things or qualities&nbsp;in movies that just aren't there or he wants to see there, and it's clear professional critics who know what a good is see the movie for what it is, a piece of s***. And we did the RT discussion with 27Years and her quest to protect "Twilight" with the "we shouldn't razz movies with higher than 60%". Point being, RT should not be the measuring stick; we're giving them way too much power. The Razzies worked fine for 15 years without the site, and it can still function just fine without it. RT = overrated. And no, I'm not saying that because it's at 60%, I'm just saying it because it's true. Razzies voters don't need RT to know what a bad movie is, all they have to do is watch it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2. GPA numbers don't impress me. Your GPA is NOT your IQ. A 3.5 GPA doesn't mean you will be the next Stephen Hawkings. To take a quote from "Good Will Hunting", even the Unabomber did&nbsp;very well for himself&nbsp;in school, and look what happened to him. Hell, when I was in high school, I was on the Honor Roll five times in a row, won the Presidental Award for Excellence In Education, and was invited to join the National Honor Society. So it makes me laugh inside when MWG says "Oh, I'm smart because of my GPA". Kid, having a 3.5 GPA is nothing impossible. All you have to do is hand in your work on time and in a proper manner and study hard for tests, that's it. In fact, the only reasons why not everyone is a straight A student are 1. A failing school system, 2. the student has a learning disability, 3. the student is undisciplined and unmotivated.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>3. And this goes back to #2, just because you're book smart, doesn't mean you're street smart, which you have proven time and time again that you're not.&nbsp;MWG gets&nbsp;owned in just about every argument you make here against members who are clearly smarter than him, and all he his to offer are lame and prejudgemental insults that are no where even close to being true. And back to 27Years, at least he/she take a hint that he/she wasn't being accepted and walked away for good. I wish MWG would take that hint, too, that his opinion is not accepted or welcomed and that he's a f***ing joke and he should just go away for good. But the kid is a social retard and he will always come back for more punishment. But hey, every village has its idiot, and every forum has it's running joke, and that's all MWG is good for.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>End of rant. Good bye.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 01 2011 at 9:55pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15cg5j_qZY" target="_blank"><i><u><font ="apple-style-span"="" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" size="3" color="#000000">This</font></u></i></a> may not be a review,but it's a comment I respect a lot(sorry I'm posting this so late).</font></td></tr></table><br>lol, I love that user! I watched most of his videos. He's hilarious.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 01 2011 at 5:44pm<br /><br /><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15cg5j_qZY" target="_blank"><i><u><font ="apple-style-span"="" color="#000000" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">This</font></u></i></a> may not be a review,but it's a comment I respect a lot(sorry I'm posting this so late).</font>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 31 2011 at 2:50pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by buddy</strong></em><br /><br />I do not want to get too involved in this discussion as it seems to me that neither side will budge from their opinions. Just to point out I have not liked the Final Destination movies thus far but have not seen FD5 yet. I just find it interesting how the ratings on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are either manipulated, respected or ignored by people here to suit their own agenda. If one likes a movie and it gets a good score then the critics are professionals who know what they are doing. If one does not like a movie and it gets a good score then the critics are biased and obviously wrong. Things are always twisted to suit people's own opinions. It is rather annoying in my opinion.</td></tr></table><br>That's exactly what I was thinking. Like it's funny how, in this example, horror movie sites are biased into liking FD5 yet they aren't when they agree with the majority on other films? Another way of thinking it is if horror movies sites are biased into liking this film, then aren't reviewers who gave this film a negative review are biased into not liking it since they hate the franchise and want it to go away? Or how about this: Maybe there isn't any bias going on and we should take the critics' word for it.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10506">buddy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 31 2011 at 12:03pm<br /><br />I do not want to get too involved in this discussion as it seems to me that neither side will budge from their opinions. Just to point out I have not liked the Final Destination movies thus far but have not seen FD5 yet. I just find it interesting how the ratings on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are either manipulated, respected or ignored by people here to suit their own agenda. If one likes a movie and it gets a good score then the critics are professionals who know what they are doing. If one does not like a movie and it gets a good score then the critics are biased and obviously wrong. Things are always twisted to suit people's own opinions. It is rather annoying in my opinion.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 28 2011 at 5:20pm<br /><br />MWG" The more times you make that claim, the more I think you're just randomly picking names of movies off the top of your head in order to come cross like you know what you're talking about. But you clearly don't if you can't even realize that defending Razzie worthy movies makes you look like an Armond White clone who has no taste. For a guy who claims to have a 3.5 GPA, you MIGHT have knowledge in a controlled classroom, but out in society and in social interactions, you have zero common sense or logic.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by moviewizguy</strong></em><br /><br />2. Contrary to popular belief, I am capable of watching and liking films such as The Red Shoes, The Wicker Man (1973), All About Eve, The Killing, Peeping Tom, Sunset Blvd, Mulholland Dr, Star Wars (the original trilogy), among others. I just don't discuss those films here.<br></td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 28 2011 at 5:16pm<br /><br />Responding to MWG:&nbsp;<div><br><div></div>2. I'll believe that when I see a scanned photo of your report cards. If your debates and posts are as half-assed and illogical as your essays, this must be a college of low standards.<div><br></div><div>5. Yeah is it, it's littered with bloggers who are not real critics, just horror movie fanboys like yourself with no taste. Actually follow the links to the review and many are horror movie sites. We're suppose to take the word of Bloody Disguesting?&nbsp;And just because these sites give one or two bad reviews to a horror movie every now and then, that doesn't mean they still have street credit. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by moviewizguy</strong></em><br /><br />2. I highly doubt 2 people is considered a "wide opinion." I am not a child. I go to college with A's and (unfortunately) some B's. I have a GPA higher than 3.5. I am not dumb as you think I am. I can pull out more credentials if you want me to.<br>5. There are no fanboys on RT. If there were, RT would lose their credibility. As stated before, it's not as if anyone can post their review up there. Be practical. Go to RT right now and look through the reviews for FD5. There are no horror movie bloggers in sight.<br></td></tr></table></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 28 2011 at 5:13pm<br /><br /><P><img src="http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/noob.jpg" height="299" width="397" border="0" /></P><DIV></DIV>^Yep, perfect likeness of MWG!^]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 28 2011 at 5:12pm<br /><br />Wow ... all it takes is one or two negative reviews and it will be right back to being rotten again. But I'm sure you're too busy&nbsp;orgasming to think about that.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 28 2011 at 3:44pm<br /><br />It's officially fresh on RT!<br><br><img src="http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/moviewizguy/fd5.jpg" height="609" width="700" border="0" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 8:25pm<br /><br />1. Cool. 2. You might want to throw in a mentioning of a good movie by comparison to balance it out.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9875">jesse685</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 8:09pm<br /><br />And I thought E.T. for the Atari 2600 was the worst game ever invented.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:58pm<br /><br /><div>Responding to&nbsp;SuperTeenTopia:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Welcome to the Forum!&nbsp;<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />&nbsp;</div><div><br>2. I try to be as on topic as I can.</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia</strong></em><br /><br /><div>1. Frankly, I don't care about this movie, if it gets 60% or 6%, what you think of it or what critics think of it. I'm just feeling this forum out and seeing what everyone's opinions and relationships are like. I'm just trying to get into discussions.</div><div>2. Then you should probably discuss those movies, rather than defending the ones that are targeted by the Razzies, because it makes you look like a poor judge of movies, which seems to be the popular opinion here.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:56pm<br /><br /><div>1. Frankly, I don't care about this movie, whether it gets 60% or 6%, what you think of it or what critics think of it. I'm just feeling this forum out and seeing what everyone's opinions and relationships are like. I'm just trying to get into discussions.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>2. Then you should probably discuss those movies, rather than defending the ones that are targeted by the Razzies, because it makes you look like a poor judge of movies, which seems to be the popular opinion around here.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:47pm<br /><br />1. I'll just end it at this. There is a total of 2 reviews for FD5 that came from horror sites. That is not a lot. These two critics also gave negative reviews to films such as Case 39, The Rite, My Soul to Take, and Season of the Witch (among others).&nbsp;<div><br>2. Contrary to popular belief, I am capable of watching and liking films such as The Red Shoes, The Wicker Man (1973), All About Eve, The Killing, Peeping Tom, Sunset Blvd, Mulholland Dr, Star Wars (the original trilogy), among others. I just don't discuss those films here.<br><br>I think the franchise has come to an end. After 2 weeks, this film has already dropped out of the top 10, grossing the least of the series. &nbsp;<br><div><br></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:40pm<br /><br /><DIV></DIV>1. I wouldn't count websites devoted to horror movies as creditable sources on par with those of Roger Ebert and other PROFESSIONAL critics. It's like a comic book website giving A+ and 5 stars to every comic book movie out there, kinda bias don't you think? However, when the goal is just to have an "fresh" RT rating,&nbsp;I guess you have to take whatever you can.<DIV></DIV>2. I'm sure you are book smart, but it would appear you're not considered to be street smart or people smart by many&nbsp;members here, including HeadRazz, whose latest replies to you hint he has grown tiresome of you.<DIV></DIV>3. That's all well and good, but it seems you are transfixed on RT's reviews. And yes, these movies are for fans and not critics,&nbsp;so I don't see the point of arguing over the RT's reviews, as REAL critics are not fans.<DIV>4. There's also ther gee-whiz nickname he has given to you, and the time he mocked you posting video more than once just because no one was replying to it (which was also called out by other members). Again, not the highest form of flattery.</DIV><DIV>5. See #1.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>In the end, you get what you want, which is this franchise not ending, even though many believe it has run its course. But we are living in a time where all movie franchises are rehashed, rebooted, and remade well into a dozen installments, so this is nothing new. And besides, horror movies don't seem to get much love from the Razzie anyway, as they are just too easy a target, like fish in a barrel.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:26pm<br /><br />1. But the links provided in RT do not come from horror movie bloggers. That's what I've been trying to point out to you guys. You think <b>anyone</b> can post their reviews up on RT? I'm sorry. It doesn't work that way. Most of the recent reviews are from UK websites since FD5 is being released this weekend. I know us Americans want to think that we're the only people in the world, but yes, there are other countries out there. And do you actually think a movie called FD5 was made for people who hate the series? It's implied that it was made for the fans.&nbsp;<div><br>2. I highly doubt 2 people is considered a "wide opinion." I am not a child. I go to college with A's and (unfortunately) some B's. I have a GPA higher than 3.5.  I am not dumb as you think I am. I can pull out more credentials if you want me to.&nbsp;</div><div><br>3. Metacritic is another site where they only collect professional critics and it has a 50. Although not anything to scream about, 10 professional critics (out of around 24) actually liked it with another 11 giving it a mixed review. There are rarely any negative reviews on this film, negative meaning strong dislike. But in the end, as one critic pointed out, these films are critic proof. People (fans) will watch them no matter what the critics say.&nbsp;</div><div><br>4. The picture was meant to be a humorous joke not to be taken seriously if you actually read through his post.<br><br></div><div>5. There are no fanboys on RT. If there were, RT would lose their credibility. As stated before, it's not as if anyone can post their review up there. Be practical. Go to RT right now and look through the reviews for FD5. There are no horror movie bloggers in sight.<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 6:12pm<br /><br /><DIV></DIV>Okay, I can play it safe, here.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>1. I WAS NOT talking about you, I was talking about the "good" reviews for FD5. What WE have been pointing out to you, is that the the good reviews are coming from HORROR MOVIE BLOGGERS, which means their opinions are BIAS and should not count. They are no professional critics, they are fans who will&nbsp;love horror movies no matter what. And&nbsp;due to your fanboy-ism, I cannot take your opinon of this movie seriously.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2. Good, because it seems no one here considers your reviews all that good. Sorry, but that seems to be the wide opinion here. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>3. However, after you claimed to hate the last installment, you are glad this one was at least better. It's the same as Batman fans with "The Dark Knight"; after the embrassment of "Batman &amp; Robin", they were overjoyed with Nolan's vision. This is the same with you. You're just glad a movie you love is being accepted as good, HOWEVER, it is being accepted NOT by professional critics, but by more FANS. So it's not a true victory, unlike when "Dark Knight" got 90% or more from PROFESSIONAL critics. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>4. You completely missed the point of the picture, Mayhem posted it as an insult. That image is what he thinks of you, frankly, a troll or rather stupid little boy. Again, sorry, but it seems you only have yourself to blame for this image. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>5. Yeah, from a BIAS FANBOY, not a professional critic. Again, it's a hollow victory. </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 4:50pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia</strong></em><br /><br />After reading this mile long thread, I've noticed this moviewizguy is a fan of the series and he takes it as a personal victory that this movie's RT is not below 58%. Okay, whatever. He really seemed to enjoy the movie for whatever reasons, and I'm sure he is as happy as a pig in its own filth that there is going to be a 6th and 7th installment (*cringes*). However, just because you do horror movie reviews on a horror movie website you created, that doesn't make you a professional critic who knows what a good movie is. In other words, his "victory" is an empty and bias one. I won't go any further than that because frankly, I don't want to get into a 9 page long debate with a guy who seems pretty unpopular at this forum and the following is how he is viewed:</td></tr></table><br>1. I don't do <i>just</i> horror movie reviews and I don't have a horror movie website to do them on.<br>2. I don't want to be a professional critic nor did I ever think myself as one. I write reviews as a hobby.<br>3. Horror movie fans have the ability to dislike horror movies just the same as how Indiana Jones fans have the ability to loath Indy 4. Do you think horror fans actually cheer when they hear their beloved classics are getting remade? It's all the same with every movie junkie. Ask anyone if they liked the <b>One Missed Call</b> remake. I doubt anyone would raise their hands.<br>4. Words such as noob (I thought it was spelled "nub"), troll, op, etc. annoy me. My friends use them in conversations just as much as I read them online. Ughhhh. I swear, <b>League of Legends</b> is the worst game ever invented.<br>5. One more positive review and FD5 would be considered fresh on RT! <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 1:53pm<br /><br />After reading this mile long thread, I've noticed this moviewizguy is a fan of the series and he takes it as a personal victory that this movie's RT is not below 58%. Okay, whatever. He really seemed to enjoy the movie for whatever reasons, and I'm sure he is as happy as a pig in its own filth that there is going to be a 6th and 7th installment (*cringes*). However, just because you do horror movie reviews on a horror movie website you created, that doesn't make you a professional critic who knows what a good movie is. In other words, his "victory" is an empty and bias one. I won't go any further than that because frankly, I don't want to get into a 9 page long debate with a guy who seems pretty unpopular at this forum and the following is how he is viewed:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/noob.jpg" height="299" width="397" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 9:11am<br /><br />Mwg...anybody can create an "actual website." Anybody can post movie reviews on it. That doesn' t make them legitimate critics. In fact, there are quite a few paid critics on r.t. that have dubious credentials, which is why a category was establshed for the top critics. But even the critics from some of the smaller publications are more credible than the ones for the fansites, who are typically little more than mouthpieces and cheerleaders.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 8:31am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia</strong></em><br /><br />Yeah, it <i>is</i> hard for the movie to get under 58% when 99% of the good reviews are coming from horror movie bloggers. A little biased maybe? &nbsp;&nbsp;<div></td></tr></table><br>I don't think RT allows bloggers to post up their reviews. I mean, every time I click on a random review there, it's from an actual website.<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11331">SuperTeenTopia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 27 2011 at 5:30am<br /><br />Yeah, it <i>is</i> hard for the movie to get under 58% when 99% of the good reviews are coming from horror movie bloggers. A little biased maybe? &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br /><font>A 29% from the top critics is not insignificant. It is the top critics that know what they are talking about...that is why they get big money from the big newspapers and websites. A lot of the others are little more than amateur bloggers.</font></td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5248<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August 26 2011 at 9:01pm<br /><br /><P><FONT style=": #e9dbb1">A 29% from the top critics is not insignificant. It is the top critics that know what they are talking about...that is why they get big money from the big newspapers and websites. A lot of the others are little more than amateur bloggers.</FONT></P>]]>
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