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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 21 2007 at 5:07pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote">Rocky was not a terrible admirable character, that was the entire point.&nbsp; He was just a regular guy who meant well but was a bum.&nbsp;</td></tr></table></P><P>I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who once quipped, "God must love common people, because he made an awful lot of them." Frankly, I've known a lot of common folk, or regular guys if you prefer, and almost all of them were a million times more admirable than, in my view, the utterly detestable Rocky Balboa. Come now, folks. Was I really the only guy watching those movies that pulled for ALL of his opponents to beat the stuffing out of him?<IMG src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=904">CDNDestroyer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 21 2007 at 4:15pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br /><p>Why did we expect Rocky to be bad? Stallone'strack record was a launching point for speculation. As&nbsp;for Rockybeing an extension of Stallone's "real life self," PLEASE! Rocky mayrepresent some extension of Stallone's ideal vision of himself,assuming that he&nbsp;actually does aspire&nbsp;to some&nbsp;statuslower than Zeus. But Rocky wasn't a terribly admirable human being, atleast by any standard I'd choose to admire. And, frankly, neither isSly... </p></td></tr></table><br><br>I will not deny that Stallone's acting career has ranged from wretchedto laughable and he has not been a good actor.&nbsp; But the Rocky rolealways seemed to click for him because it didn't demand too much fromhim.&nbsp; He just had to show up and be himself, which was what I wasreferring to when I said "real-life self", which any of us could do.<br><br>Rocky was not a terrible admirable character, that was the entirepoint.&nbsp; He was just a regular guy who meant well but was abum.&nbsp; He was called up to an extraordinary opportunity to provehimself, he didn't expect to win just not back down.<br><br>Remember: Stallone came up with the idea/script for the Rocky film andit was actually really good.&nbsp; Now that he's been out of the actingspotlight for many years and gotten older, I feel he's been humbled alittle bit to the point where he just wanted to properly conclude theseries he started.&nbsp; I don't view it as a vanity project forStallone because I never saw it that way.&nbsp; It was just a properconclusion after the disaster that was Rocky V.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 20 2007 at 4:54pm<br /><br /><P>If the defining question of the topic were altered slightly, to say, "How will Rocky Balboa end?" the answer might finally be, "largely ignored." </P><P>Its box-office numbers weren't disastrous; as of January 18 it had pulled in $66 million domestic, and will probably tack on another 5 to 10 million before it ends its run, about exactly what we predicted. What has been curious has been its complete lack of appeal in foreign markets. It has only pulled about $10 million overseas. Compare that to <strong>You, Me and Dupree,</strong> a very different movie, but with comparable domestic numbers. It ended its domestic run in the mid-70 million range. Its foreign take was around $55 million. Evidently Rocky's appeal is strictly an American phenomenon, and not, these days, a strong one even here.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 19 2007 at 4:45pm<br /><br /><P>Why did we expect Rocky to be bad? Stallone's track record was a launching point for speculation. As&nbsp;for Rocky being an extension of Stallone's "real life self," PLEASE! Rocky may represent some extension of Stallone's ideal vision of himself, assuming that he&nbsp;actually does aspire&nbsp;to some&nbsp;status lower than Zeus. But Rocky wasn't a terribly admirable human being, at least by any standard I'd choose to admire. And, frankly, neither is Sly... </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=904">CDNDestroyer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 19 2007 at 3:07pm<br /><br />I actually really enjoyed Rocky Balboa.&nbsp; I don't know why everyoneexpected this film to bomb horribly other than pulling the "Stallone isold" excuse.&nbsp; Age sometimes allows actors to growexperience.&nbsp; It's been 16 years since Rocky V, the stink is longgone and Stallone finally gets a chance to conclude what he started.<br><br>Yes, Stallone acting career has sucked horribly but Rocky is one of thefew roles he could do well because it's really just an extension of hisreal-life self.<br><br>They concluded the series, ended it on a good note (which Rocky V triedto do and failed) and left it as such.&nbsp; I couldn't have expectedany more.<br><br>Looking forward: Rambo IV could be one of those films that could behorribly incredible or incredibly horrible.&nbsp; I can't wait.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=667">fan of 30 years</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 03 2007 at 1:18am<br /><br /><IMG src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0">&nbsp; I guess that will have to be good enough for me.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 02 2007 at 4:30pm<br /><br /><P>For what it's worth, I doubt either of them will receive sufficient votes to make the final ballot. The competition is sufficiently stiff that <strong>RB </strong>will likely&nbsp;be ignored by <EM>both </EM>the AMPAS and the Razzies.</P><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by fan of 30 years</strong></em><br /><br />And while I do not profess to be any sort of expert on who is a good actor or not, I would disagree with the nominations of both Milo and Burt.&nbsp;</td></tr></table> </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=667">fan of 30 years</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 02 2007 at 1:50am<br /><br /><P>HeadRazz, I understand that you have to do what you what you have to do.&nbsp; And while I do not profess to be any sort of expert on who is a good actor or not, I would disagree with the nominations of both Milo and Burt.&nbsp; The character of Paulie reminds me of so many people I have met in life that I can't help but feel that Burt captures him so well.&nbsp; And Milo pulled off that roll surprisingly well, to me.&nbsp; </P><P>No hard feelings though, everyone gets to have an opinion.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=667">fan of 30 years</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 29 2006 at 1:41am<br /><br /><P>With the movie now out, I will say this.&nbsp; I absolutely loved it.&nbsp; And as much as I would love for Rocky, thus Sly to kick butt at the box office and really show everyone who isn't rooting for him, I have come to the realization that it doesn't really matter.&nbsp; </P><P>I know low #'s and bad reviews will affect future projects, but for me, I got what I was wanting with Rocky Balboa.&nbsp; A sweet, sentimental, don't let anyone tell you that you can't do something, Bill Conti score, going the distance close to <FONT color=#000000><strong>MY</strong></FONT> favorite character ever.&nbsp; And since Sly and Rocky are so much the same in my mind, neither can do much wrong in my eyes.</P><P>I have never been so naive as to think or say that Sly never made any bad movies.&nbsp; But I would like to say that he is the ONLY actor that I am willing to watch whether or not it is a bad movie.&nbsp; Even the "greats" in the eyes of most can't draw me to a movie that is bad.</P><P>&nbsp; Everyone has an opinion,&nbsp;so, here is mine. &nbsp;I am sure that you will like Rocky Balboa, and that no matter what it will not redeem Sly enough to avoid your Razz.&nbsp; That's is OK.&nbsp; Do what you feel is right... I got what I wanted.&nbsp; And I will now look forward to whatever Sly does next.&nbsp; </P><P><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><FONT size=3><strong>Response from Head RAZZberry:</strong> Dear <strong>Fan of 30 Years</strong> and <strong>#1 Sly Fan</strong> -- While we don't totally agree about ROCKY BALBOA, we're much closer in our response than you might expect. Due to the critical&nbsp;acceptance of &nbsp;the film (</FONT><A href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rocky_balboa/" target="_blank"><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color=#ff0000 size=3><strong>LINK</strong></FONT></A><FONT size=3>)&nbsp;and the fact that it is clearly <EM>not</EM> bombing at the box office (</FONT><A href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&amp;id=rocky6.htm" target="_blank"><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" color=#009933 size=3><strong>LINK</strong></FONT></A><FONT size=3>) &nbsp;I chose to list it in only two places on my 27th Annual RAZZIES Nominating Ballot (both <strong>Burt Young</strong> as Paulie and <strong>Milo Ventimiglia</strong> as Rocky Junior&nbsp;for <strong><EM>Worst Supporting Actor</EM></strong>). Stallone's performance in this film, especially the scene where he breaks down in tears over the loss of Adrian, was certainly nothing for him to be ashamed of (or for us to poke fun at). We&nbsp;&nbsp;have also decided 2006 is <EM>not</EM> an appropriate year to give Sly a <strong><EM>Worst Career Achievement</EM></strong> award. But if ROCKY VI and its apparent success allow Stallone to finally make RAMBO IV and/or his "dream project" about <strong>Edgar Allen Poe</strong>, as I mentioned in a previous post, we&nbsp;will likely&nbsp;revisit the issue in the next year or two...</FONT></FONT></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=731">AllisonSNLKid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Will Sly  End ROCKY BALBOA??<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December 28 2006 at 11:46am<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by #1-Film Freak!!</strong></em><br /><br />The only realistic ending would be for Balboa to die in the ring. But given what a golden goose Rocky has proven to be for the minimally talented Stallone, I seriously doubt that's how it will end. I voted in agreement with head RAZZberry above -- I bet Sly rips-off Rocky I one more time...</td></tr></table> </P><P>Could be worse...he could get into the ring in cowboy getup and a guitar and sing us to death...</P><P>...or, he could arm wrestle Mason Dixon, but he doesn't need to get custody of his son, because, after all, he is grown up...</P><P>Allison :-)</P>]]>
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