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   <title>So Satan Walks into This Elevator... :  &amp;#034;DEVIL,ARE YOU GOING UP...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 31 2011 at 12:23pm<br /><br /><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">"<b>DEVIL</b>,ARE YOU GOING UP OR DOWN?" "WHAT DO YOU THINK?"(***/*****):</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 22px; font-size: medium; "><br></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, mono; line-height: 22px; font-size: medium; ">So what is the problem with this movie?It breaks a rule.Let's say you make a movie where a man is in love with 2 women.The audience will know the possible outcomes(he chooses one,both or neither).You can't make a movie where the premise gives you the outcomes,like here.Somebody will eventually figure out the ending.Not to mention people will think too much about it the entire movie instead of enjoying it,specially where they tell there's gonna be a twist ending no matter what.</span></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I didn't judge the twist at all.If there's anything we learned from <b>M. Night Shyamalan</b> is that twists can be so overrated to the point they're considered the most important part of the movie,specially twist endings.Actually,it was kind of good for him to give away that there was gonna be a twist.A lot of people hate them because they feel cheated.By the way,I feel I should point out something unfair.Had this movie been bad,people would've said his career bombed,but if it had been good,people would've said the director should take credit.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Speaking of him,by the Rule Of 3,it's fair to judge <b>John Erick Dowdle</b>.His 3 movies have been average for different reasons,but they all scare you.Here,it'll be mostly cheap thrills.It doesn't get truly suspenseful until the last part.But it's worth it.Not to mention how hard it is to make a story interesting in such a confined space.Although I'm not saying he's in the same level as <b>Danny Boyle</b> in 127 HOURS(this one doesn't take place almost entirely in the elevator).</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">As for the story,is not different from the others that come "from the mind of <b>Shyamalan</b>".Writer <b>Brian Nelson</b> dismisses a lot of the usual melodrama,but he keeps the episodic feel suited for a series and he increases it,making this movie forgettable.And the performances are suited for TV movies.Not because the actors aren't famous,but because they're weak(in particular,<b>Bokeem Woodbine</b> is very over the top).This will be the first of a trilogy where supernatural elements appear in modern day,and because the stories will be unrelated,it will make them all equally episodic.Is <b>Shyamalan </b>aware his movies are compared to episodes of THE TWILIGHT ZONE?</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Although the events of the ending are unsatisfying,the ending as a whole is good.It pushes the right buttons to make you emotional,and when the credits start rolling with that creepy music,you realize your heart had been beating fast for several minutes,and it will continue for some more.Guess which is the only other movie in history that left me with that strange yet nice mix of emotions.THE 6TH SENSE.</font></div><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Grades:C in the U.S. and 5,0 in Chile.</font><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Still doesn't change the fact that thrillers should end on a wholly depressing note, which is what their tone should be.</td></tr></table><div><font ="apple-style-span"="" size="3" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">The tone of the movie was suspenseful,which is how a thriller should be.How a movie ends,or with what it leaves you,it's up to the viewer.</font></div></div>]]>
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   <title>So Satan Walks into This Elevator... :   Originally posted by Vits1)Who...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 31 2011 at 11:50am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">1)Who says he/she/it won't go after them?According to the movie,what happened was an event that happens everyday with bad souls.We were just shown a group of random people.Besides,had them been those people,it would've been a satire,and that doesn't really fit with this type of movies.</font></span><div><span style="font-size: medium;"><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">2)You admitted before that you didn't pay much attention.Btu if you think the movie ended happ-go-lucky,you didn't watch it.</font></span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium;"><font face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">3)I don't care about either football either.But you talk about it like it's bad because you don't like it.But go ahead.Keep "shooting yourself in the foot"<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />.</font></span></div></td></tr></table><br>1. As I said a million times, this movie was a retarded concept of trying to mash-up two older than dirt plot gimmicks, much like how people say "Cowboys &amp; Aliens" is a dumb mash-up to get two concepts together in the same movie to sell to two audiences. "Devil" was just doomed to fail.<br><br>2. My friend rented it recently. Still doesn't change the fact that thrillers should end on a wholly depressing note, which is what their tone should be.<br><br>3. I'm not saying football is bad because I don't like it, I'm just saying the people who play it professionally are not always the kind of people you should be looking up to. Kinda like how M. Night is not a writer/director you should be backing after the last four movies he has been attached to.<br>]]>
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   <title>So Satan Walks into This Elevator... : 1)Who says he/she/it won&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 31 2011 at 8:03am<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">1)Who says he/she/it won't go after them?According to the movie,what happened was an event that happens everyday with bad souls.We were just shown a group of random people.Besides,had them been those people,it would've been a satire,and that doesn't really fit with this type of movies.</font></span><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">2)You admitted before that you didn't pay much attention.Btu if you think the movie ended happ-go-lucky,you didn't watch it.</font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">3)I don't care about either football either.But you talk about it like it's bad because you don't like it.But go ahead.Keep "shooting yourself in the foot"<img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />.</font></span></div>]]>
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   <title>So Satan Walks into This Elevator... :  Originally posted by Vits 1....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 30 2011 at 7:10pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face=Verdana>1. </FONT>Although not explained in the movie,it's obvious.People die every day in any country,but not at the same time.And they're not all evil souls.In the universe of the movie,the devil goes after those souls one by one,or in this case,a group of them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face=Verdana></FONT></FONT></SPAN><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT size=3 face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT size=3 face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">2. That's your opinion.Everyone has different views on what how they want to feel after watching a movie.And not all of his movies have happy endings.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"> <TABLE width="99%"><T><T><T><TR><TD ="BBquote"><strong><EM></EM></strong></TD></TR></T></T></T></TABLE></DIV><DIV><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"><DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><TABLE width="99%"><T><T><T><TR><TD ="BBquote"></TD></TR></T></T></T></TABLE><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT size=3 face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT size=3 face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">3. Wow!I thought you were just really against people with bad taste in movies,but that was just pretentious.And this is coming from someone living in a country where people hate it for being called "football" while the real one is called "soccer".</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: 1px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; rgb233: ; -: n&#111;ne"><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face=Verdana>4. </FONT>People keep saying that.Why?During the characters's confrontations,</FONT></SPAN><FONT color=#000000><FONT ="Apple-style-span"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">they all seem equally dangerous,even the old lady</FONT></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>1. My point was wouldn't the Devil have more likely targets to go after, like Wall Street people? It's not so much the people dying, as it is for Satan to convince them to give him their souls in exchange for something they want (Wall Street employees being a perfect example of such people). <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2. Again, it's called a THRILLER. You don't leave feeling all happy go-lucky; that's what rom-coms are for. Thrillers are suppose to fill you with dread, not hope.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>3. Frankly, I don't give a flying f*** about football, American version or otherwise. So-called sports "heroes" are overglorifed anyway, and many of them turn out to be criminals. Sport fans only like them because they live the lifestyle they want: a metric-f*** ton of money, a parking lot worth of cars, VIP access to any party, and all the groupies and models they can f*** at a moment's notice.</DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>4. Um, because you can see it coming a mile away. In movies with a twist, it's always has to be the person you will least expect. Hell, if there was a little 4 or 5 year old girl in a little pink dress among that group, chances are she would be the Devil! That's how "what a twist!" works. </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July 30 2011 at 7:01pm<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I just saw it and gave it 6/10.Review coming soon.</font></span><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Yeah, shouldn't the Devil be hanging out at, say, Wall Street or in Washington DC (or even Hollywood) instead? More than enough lost (or greedy)&nbsp;souls in those places!</td></tr></table></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Although not explained in the movie,it's obvious.People die every day in any country,but not at the same time.And they're not all evil souls.In the universe of the movie,the devil goes after those souls one by one,or in this case,a group of them.</font></span></div><div><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />One thing I noticed from this movie is that M Night always seems to try to work some sort of "Happy" ending into all of his thrillers, and why? They're THRILLers. You should walk out of the theater on pins and needles, not flowers and... muskrats. It fully kills the mood.</td></tr></table><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">That's your opinion.Everyone has different views on what how they want to feel after watching a movie.And not all of his movies have happy endings.</font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />So, you can say I SAW the movie, I just didn't pay much attention to it. But if you really must know ... spoilers:<div>&nbsp;</div><div>The old lady is the devil! Yeah, no surprise there, who would think a little old lady is the devil, hence why it would be WHAT A TWIST!</td></tr></table></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">People keep saying that.Why?During the characters's confrontations,</font></span><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#FFFFFF"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">they all seem equally dangerous,even the old lady</font></span></font><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">.</font></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><div style=": rgb233, 219, 177; margin-left: 1px; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; -: n&#111;ne; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />It says that you care about art, and what the best and worst movies of the year are, rather than wasting 3 or 4 hours of your life watching a bunch of 'roid-filled cavemen chase after a pigskin ball.</td></tr></table><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">Wow!I thought you were just really against people with bad taste in movies,but that was just pretentious.And this is coming from someone living in a country where people hate it for being called "football" while the real one is called "soccer".</font></span></div></div></font></span></div></div></font></span></div></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 24 2011 at 1:33pm<br /><br /><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3">Don't you just love self-parody?<br><br>http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/08/26/m-night-shyamalan-penthouse-pet-ryan-keely-devil-trailer-parody-escalation</font><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 05 2010 at 3:49pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br />The really sad thing is that now, he is looking for young directors to drag down the toilet with him.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Pretty much. It's like "my career is in a coma, so I'll just leech off of whatever promising career you might have had!".]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 05 2010 at 3:32pm<br /><br />The really sad thing is that now, he is looking for young directors to drag down the toilet with him.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 05 2010 at 3:25pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by tdickensheets</strong></em><br /><br />Going down!</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>M. Night's career? Oh yeah!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=923">tdickensheets</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November 05 2010 at 1:46pm<br /><br />Going down!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 02 2010 at 2:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Vits</strong></em><br /><br /><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span"> I can't believe it took so long fo R.T. to give this </FONT></SPAN><a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/771203480" target="_blank"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">a concensus</FONT></SPAN></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium" ="Apple-style-span"><FONT face="'Courier New', Courier, mono" ="Apple-style-span">.</FONT></SPAN></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Wow, the studios really, really, REALLY went out of their way to make sure critics didn't see it. I don't blame them!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October 02 2010 at 2:26pm<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">I can't believe it took so long fo R.T. to give this </font></span><a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/771203480" target="_blank"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">a concensus</font></span></a><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">.</font></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 25 2010 at 9:04am<br /><br />Hang in there dEd, things might get better, you never know. Or, I could just be filling you with false hope.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 23 2010 at 11:42am<br /><br />LoL! I'm pretty sure I'm paid through this next round of Razzies, so I'll definitely be around for at least that much. Not sure if I'm going to re-renew, but I probably will. But srsly, I'd Razz almost everything out these days. And I'm not all <i>that</i> crotchety of an old man...just yet. &nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 22 2010 at 8:47pm<br /><br />Pretty good point there, Mr. Burn. I don't even like the sport of football much at all; I've heard that those who play it too much suffer decades-delayed physical trauma, which often literally kills them.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 22 2010 at 6:42pm<br /><br />It says that you care about art, and what the best and worst movies of the year are, rather than wasting 3 or 4 hours of your life watching a bunch of 'roid-filled cavemen chase after a pigskin ball.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 22 2010 at 3:13pm<br /><br /><P>I should've told you: I wouldn't go to the high school football games if it weren't for my underclassmen. </P><P>Indeed I anticipate the RAZZIES, OSCARS, Golden Globes, and BAFTAs more so than the S(beep)er Bowl. What's the worst that it says about me?</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 22 2010 at 12:56pm<br /><br />The main event of every winter -- &nbsp;More so than the Super Bowl?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8230">GTAHater767</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 9:33pm<br /><br /><P>dEd Grimley, I hope you'll stay for the O-Ten RAZZIES, because for me, that's the main event of every winter.&nbsp;<FONT size=1>That and the season kickoff of South Park (finale in November 2011 unless contract renewed). </FONT>Even then, I go into most Octobers thinking there's a shortage of good movies from the previous&nbsp;9 months, until the good movies start coming in November.&nbsp;</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 9:21pm<br /><br />Ouch, and that's coming from a man who works (or worked?) in the business! &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dEd Grimley</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<br>I don't know if y'all had noticed, but I haven't been around as much as I used to be, which has much more to do with my general despair in the movie industry, and movies seem so soulless, that there's rarely reason to comment.</td></tr></table></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3121">dEd Grimley</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 8:44pm<br /><br />One thing I've learned about movies as of late - I may OVER estimate how good a movie will end up being, but I haven't really UNDER estimated much in a long, long time. So I, at least, generally feel OK in condemning a lot of the movies that I have without having seen them yet. When that applies. That's in reference to BHB, anyway.<br /><br />I don't know if y'all had noticed, but I haven't been around as much as I used to be, which has much more to do with my general despair in the movie industry, and movies seem so soulless, that there's rarely reason to comment.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 7:07pm<br /><br />Most "Twilight Zone" episodes were all about people going about their daily lives until some kind of sci-fi based event happens and their world is turned upside down. And then there's some twist at the end that tells a life lesson ... pretty much the same formula that M. Nut has used in all his movies, although none as clever as what Serling came up with. I'm sorry if my comparison was not to your liking.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by saturnwatcher</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<div>I rarely take issue with BHB, however I have to take exception to comparing this movie in any way to the old Twilight Zone series. There were some not-so-good episodes during it's five year run, but the worst of them was considerably better than anything M. Nut Shamalamadingdong has had his name on the past few years. Rod Serling was not only a pretty talented writer, but as a producer he knew a good story when he saw it, and how to translate it effectively onto the television screen. M Nut might have started with some capability, but he has most certainly lost it.</div></td></tr></table>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 7:04pm<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 22px; "><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Nobody called me a prick?&nbsp;</span></span><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Miguel has, plenty of times. "Idiot" and "moron" tend to be MWG's favorites.&nbsp;</span><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Point is, I can take seeing my favorite movies being made fun of. After all, they're just movies! &nbsp;</span></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8803">Vits</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 5:54pm<br /><br /><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono">BHB -- Nobody called you a prick...&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 12px; "><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn</strong></em><br /><br />Okay then, now that you can't say I'm a bias prick, you may now continue to defend (or mock) "Devil".</td></tr></table></span>&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Courier New', Courier, mono"><br></font></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">saturnwatcher</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 3:29pm<br /><br />Welcome to the board, Jester...permit me to introduce myself...the voice of reason <img src="http://www.razzies.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I rarely take issue with BHB, however I have to take exception to comparing this movie in any way to the old Twilight Zone series. There were some not-so-good episodes during it's five year run, but the worst of them was considerably better than anything M. Nut Shamalamadingdong has had his name on the past few years. Rod Serling was not only a pretty talented writer, but as a producer he knew a good story when he saw it, and how to translate it effectively onto the television screen. M Nut might have started with some capability, but he has most certainly lost it.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 3:22pm<br /><br />To be a fair sport, I'm willing to admit, as much as I loved it, "Inception" wasn't totally flawless. And to prove so, here's a few College Humor videos that poke fun at it.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939234" target="_blank">http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939234</A></DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332" target="_blank">http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332</A></DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYPJ4Yc31g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYPJ4Yc31g</A></DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAuMpOpSnA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAuMpOpSnA</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Okay then, now that you can't say I'm a bias prick, you may now continue to defend (or mock) "Devil".</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=9088">themoviejester</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 21 2010 at 12:30pm<br /><br />And what is the source of your information? &nbsp;<div><br></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b>RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry:</b> Here's what I <i>think</i> is </font></span><a href="http://savethecat.in&#102;orme.com/buried-screenplay-by-chris-sparling-dt2211.html" target="_blank"><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><u><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">a LINK</font></u></b></font></span></a><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"> to download the screenplay for BURIED &nbsp;(<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462758/" target="_blank"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font ="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><b><u><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">IMDb LINK</font></u></b></font></span></a>)...&nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif">Also, welcome to our Forum, <b>MovieJester</b>! &nbsp;</font></span></div><div><span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><br></font></span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2010 at 8:37pm<br /><br />The script for <i>Buried</i> has actually been leaked online for quite awhile (I didn't read it) and reviews of the film have confirmed that the film does take place in the coffin in its entirety (I don't know about the ending, though). I'm trying to not read spoilers.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8839">BurnHollywoodBurn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2010 at 8:16pm<br /><br />Do you know for a fact that "<i>Buried</i>&nbsp;takes place entirely inside a coffin"? I'm guessing at some point Ryan Reynolds has be outside the coffin before being put into it and then (if they are going for a happy ending) he will get out of the coffin later on. I really doubt that in this day and age in Hollywood, there's a writer or director clever enough to make a 95 minute long film entirely in one confinded space. Yes, movies with two or three people in a hotel room can&nbsp;work (and have worked, see "Tape"), but one person inside a coffin for 95 minutes ... I don't think so.&nbsp;<div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>So Satan Walks into This Elevator... : But the elevator scenes account...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.razzies.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=933">moviewizguy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4560<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September 20 2010 at 8:01pm<br /><br />But the elevator scenes account for only roughly 55-60% of Devil. The movie takes place outside the elevator as well. And if you're seriously wondering if you can make a good movie in a confined space, try <i>Buried</i>. The entire film actually one ups <i>Devil</i> in terms of confined space and takes place entirely inside a coffin. &nbsp;<br>]]>
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