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    Posted: July 04 2007 at 2:29pm

Well, I did list the parts I liked.  If a movie is going to call itself Transformers, yet it is 80% about the humans and 20% about the title characters that many of us were into during the 80s, then yes, I have problems with it.  I probably could (and have done so in the past) have overlooked the big question not being answered, if they just get the rest of it right.  They didn't.

Great special effects, though!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tomsmobr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2007 at 3:16pm

I saw that Alvin and The Chipmunks was being mentioned by RoadDogXVIII as a possible Razzie contender.  I just saw The Movie Poster on line, and it looks like they're going to be a Rap Group. You can view the poster here http://www.impawards.com/2007/alvin_and_the_chipmunks.html

Response from Head RAZZberry: The CHIPMUNKS poster can also be seen here in our Forum. Here's that LINK... 

 

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Honestly HeadRAZZ, up to 2 weeks ago I was just going to be thankful it was just going to Reach 30%, especially with the track record of the Director in recent years. As it stands now it has only slightly dropped to 57% Rotten and Cream of the Crop still has it reading at 72% fresh. Maybe we should give this an Honorary "Berry" in the category you suggested, because I thought people were going to go "Belly Up" and lose their jobs jumping on this Band Wagon!

Originally posted by HeadRAZZ

Response from Head RAZZberry: FYI -- I just checked our Rotten Tomatoes' LINK and TRANSFORMERS has now, by a slim margin of 1%, slipped into what may be permanent listing as being officially "ROTTEN." I plan to see it later this week, but must admit I am amazed that something as clunky looking as this could get even 35% approval from major film critics, let alone top 50%. If we had a specific category for Most Obnoxiously/Aggressively Marketed Movie, this would "win" it, hands down... 

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Let me just clear something here. In case you didn't know this, Michael Bay's last picture, The Island, wasn't up for any Razzies, even though critics tore it to shreds. I saw it, though, and found it to be modest entertainment. His latest effort, the movie we're all talking about, is actually - blast me if you feel like it, I don't give a rat's ass - one of his best movies since The Rock. The people who are bashing this movie don't know the big picture - you don't have to take the film seriously, and Bay is aware of how silly the picture is, so he throws humor to add some personality to it. When all is said and done, if you go and see Transformers, don't hate yourself after it's over, because it's a wild thrill ride. Hell, with Steven Spielberg producing and Shia LaBeouf as one of the stars (Disturbia, anyone?), what can go wrong? Maybe pissant trolls like you who have nothing to do but bash the guy (though I don't know if the person whose message I'm replying to is in this group). Hell, I'll say this without feeling like crap: I might see it again! So f*cking piss on me, I dare you.

HOWEVER, I do agree that Bay's other movies weren't great. Armageddon could've been good old fashion guilty fun, but they had to throw in too much camera edits, awful dialogue that took itself too seriously, and a crap romantic subplot between Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler (whom, from what I heard, were nominated for Worst Couple Razzie back in '98). For Pearl Harbor (which I saw some bits of it on ABC, unlucky me), Bay was DEFINITELY not the man to direct a historic event, and even the love triangle was just mind-numbing. Bad Boys II could've helped but him back on the map, but due to hidden agendas (according to Entertainment Weekly, Bay wanted to go bonkers just to get back at the critics and prove to them that people will see his films), it became a wreck, depsite a good box office run. THOSE films were his nadir. So, in conclusion, maybe Bay should stay away from the Jerry Bruckheimer camp (of course, they'll both reunite for the Prince of Persia adaptation), cause I found his last two movies to be more watchable than that other crap.

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Originally posted by HeadRAZZ

Response from Head RAZZberry: FYI -- I just checked our Rotten Tomatoes' LINK and TRANSFORMERS has now, by a slim margin of 1%, slipped into what may be permanent listing as being officially "ROTTEN." I plan to see it later this week, but must admit I am amazed that something as clunky looking as this could get even 35% approval from major film critics, let alone top 50%. If we had a specific category for Most Obnoxiously/Aggressively Marketed Movie, this would "win" it, hands down... 

 

Honestly HeadRAZZ, up to 2 weeks ago I was just going to be thankful it was just going to Reach 30%, especially with the track record of the Director in recent years. As it stands now it has only slightly dropped to 57% Rotten and Cream of the Crop still has it reading at 72% fresh. Maybe we should give this an Honorary "Berry" in the category you suggested, because I thought people where going to go "Belly Up" and lose their jobs jumping in on this Band Wagon!



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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2007 at 9:16pm

Originally posted by RoadDogXVIII

In case you didn't know this, Michael Bay's last picture, The Island, wasn't up for any Razzies, even though critics tore it to shreds.

Well, Van Wilder 2: The Rise of Taj wasn't up for any Razzies last year, but that doesn't mean it wasn't Razzie worthy. . . .

That said, hey, if you liked this movie, go knock yourself out.  I didn't, for the very reasons I spelled out, the main one being it was 80% humans (who were always cheesy in the series) and 20% Transformers.  I could've done without that much cheese, thank you.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wetbandit82 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2007 at 1:39pm

The real problem with Bay is that he acts superior to everyone he comes across, and promotes himself as a supergenius (of course, so does Wile E. Coyote, and we all know where that gets him, especially when he's teamed with Bugs). So people enjoy watching him fall flat on his face.  In productions with dozens of people alongside you, good people skills are essential...and Bay (at least explicitly) has none whatsoever. 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2007 at 12:55pm

Well, you all know the tune, so feel free to sing along:

Transformers, boring meets the eye...

 

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TRANSFORMERS is sitting at $173.4 million at the U.S. Box Office after Tuesday's results, so maybe Michael Bay learned something from his last film that bombed at the Box Office, THE ISLAND...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2007 at 4:01pm

What has Michael Bay learned?  Heavily commercial toy line + vastly superior, vastly impressive special effects + way too much cheesy human scenes and dialogs + plot holes that give Optimus Prime and Megatron plenty of room to rumble = megahit movie.

It seems to me a parallel can be drawn between this movie and 1959's Journey to the Center of the Earth.  Back then, that movie had the best, most impressive special effects of its time, and I heard it was a blockbuster at the box office.  Watch it now, though, and the special effects look cheap and the bad acting and dialog stand out.  It still has a charm about it, but it has many flaws.  Over time, the special effects began to look phony, even though they looked realistic when it first came out.

Transformers comes across to me the same way.  It's just missing the stupid duck. . . .

And remember, don't eat Hans' duck. . . .

Response from Head RAZZberry: Interesting that you should draw a parallel to JOURNEY...when I was a promo writer/producer for Fox Movie Channel, one of the several hundred titles I created promos for was CENTER. The clip I used featured Pat Boone and Arlene Dahl fighting off "terrifying dinosaurs" on a beach. The "dinosaurs" were actually common desert lizards, blue-screened into the images to look "gigantic." The trivia note I used for the spot mentioned that JOURNEY received 3 Academy Award nominations ( IMDb LINK ) including one for "Best Special Visual Effects." Indeed, we have come a long way -- If not in plotting, at least in the ability to believably depict  the fantastic on film.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2007 at 2:22am

Pretty clearly this movie had a built-in audience, so its decent box-office performance is no real surprise. If anyone ever does a live action version of Fireball XL-5  I'll definitely be there, even if Michael Bay directs it. Go Fireball Go!...and wasn't Matthew MCConaughey born to play Steve Zodiac? Most important of all, am I the only one here who remembers Fireball XL-5?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:43am

Okay...on the off chance that the answer to my query above is actually yes...here is how I blew a half hour every Saturday morning of my childhood...isn't the Internet great?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-1AMrSzN40

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2007 at 8:42am

I think Transformers was meant to be a big, dumb, loud action movie. That's probably why people like it in the first place.

Response from Head RAZZberry: If by "people," you suggest you're speaking for anyone else posting on this Forum, I feel compelled to quote classic Hollywood producer Sam Goldwyn, who once declared: "Include me out!" 

 

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So as a general rule, the tastes of the American people run toward big, loud and dumb?

Well, that would explain their current choice of national leaders... 

Response from Head RAZZberry: By comparing it to our current political leadership, aren't you being just a tad harsh to TRANSFORMERS? Big, loud and dumb as it may be, at least it has achieved its mercenary purpose of being a money-making machine. I can't site a single issue on which our current so-called "leaders" have achieved even minimal success...   

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2007 at 3:52pm
Well, if you have read the reviews, people had seen it and liked it for being an action film...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2007 at 5:52pm

Yeah, and other reviews show that people don't like it because it is an action film that dwells on a bunch of dumb humans instead of the Transformers.

But, hey, they all agree that the special effects were superb!

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Response from Head RAZZberry: By comparing it to our current political leadership, aren't you being just a tad harsh to TRANSFORMERS? Big, loud and dumb as it may be, at least it has achieved its mercenary purpose of being a money-making machine. I can't site a single issue on which our current so-called "leaders" have achieved even minimal success...   

A tad harsh? Moi?

Okay...

Point taken... here is what I should have said:

So, as a general rule, the tastes of the American people are running toward big, loud and dumb? I guess someone has finally explained the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.

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