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    Posted: June 25 2009 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Again, like it if you want, man, but on a movie like this, I don't think anyone is being forced to say they thought it was stupid. As I mentioned above, many of the positive reviews contain the same information as the negatives. It seems to me that you go into it knowing that it's not going to be "good," and then you end up letting that bother you, or you don't. Quite frankly, I think it's important to let it bother you if you really don't need to like it.


Well, I exhausted this, so now I'm looking forward to what'll be next week's bombs.
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Well, unlike a certain other person on the board, we know you're not posting here just to disagree with us just because you can. Now, I will admit, I have talked to people about the movie, and they like it for the most part, if only as mindless entertainment. Many of those RT reviews that speak highly of the movie say you have to turn your brain off to enjoy it. It's not the same as, say "Disaster Movie", which was a trainwreck from the word go and doesn't deserve any praise of any sort. But at the same time, outside of CGI and T&A, "TF2" doesn't bring much to the table.

But I have to be honest, I hate Michael Bay. He is the embodiment of everything that's wrong with Hollywood. I was a Transformer fan as a child, and seeing this piece of sh*t , it sickens me to see what Bay has done to my childhood heroes. The GhettoTwins, the wrecking "balls", the pot eating, the living sex doll that is Megan Fox, the annoyance that is Shia Lebeouf. It's like what the Movie Preview Critic said, paste Bay's head to Bumblebee during the peeing scene from the first movie and that is how I feel about this.

So critics and movie goers have different views on blockbuster movies, that's nothing new. The movie goers will no doubt make this the highest grossing movie of the year, and the third installment is probably already in the works. I can't stop this, it would be like trying to stop the Earth from rotating around the Sun. But it still pisses me off that it's happening. I don't blame you for liking it, but as for me, I'm voting for it in every Razzie catagory possible.

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Originally posted by Michaels

Well, unlike a certain other person on the board, we know you're not posting here just to disagree with us just because you can. Now, I will admit, I have talked to people about the movie, and they like it for the most part, if only as mindless entertainment. Many of those RT reviews that speak highly of the movie say you have to turn your brain off to enjoy it. It's not the same as, say "Disaster Movie", which was a trainwreck from the word go and doesn't deserve any praise of any sort. But at the same time, outside of CGI and T&A, "TF2" doesn't bring much to the table.

But I have to be honest, I hate Michael Bay. He is the embodiment of everything that's wrong with Hollywood. I was a Transformer fan as a child, and seeing this piece of sh*t , it sickens me to see what Bay has done to my childhood heroes. The GhettoTwins, the wrecking "balls", the pot eating, the living sex doll that is Megan Fox, the annoyance that is Shia Lebeouf. It's like what the Movie Preview Critic said, paste Bay's head to Bumblebee during the peeing scene from the first movie and that is how I feel about this.

So critics and movie goers have different views on blockbuster movies, that's nothing new. The movie goers will no doubt make this the highest grossing movie of the year, and the third installment is probably already in the works. I can't stop this, it would be like trying to stop the Earth from rotating around the Sun. But it still pisses me off that it's happening. I don't blame you for liking it, but as for me, I'm voting for it in every Razzie catagory possible.



Well, thank you for at least respecting my opinion. And, you know, if it get Razzie nominations, I don't care. The last one did (for Worst Supporting Actor: Jon Voight). All I'm saying is that the numerous reasons TF2 is bad sounds rather silly (I didn't realize the Twins were black, nor did I find literal testicles on the back of Devastator; they look just like wrecking balls more than anything). That's all I'm saying.

I don't think Megan Fox is going anywhere soon. She has an assload of movies down the pike, including the horror comedy Jennifer's Body, the film adaptation of DC Comics' Jonah Hex, some films with A-listers Paul Giamatti and Mickey Rourke, and another comic book film called Fathom. Hey, if she likes playing video games (she said she likes Wii, and was caught playing Guitar Hero on sexy gossip site Egotastical) and hates gossip, I'll take her over twat extraordinaire Miley Cyrus and wet blanket Vanessa Hudgens.

Any. Day. Of. The. Week.

As for any Seltzerberg products, they don't seem to phase me for some reason. Of course, they're not exactly quality entertainment, but for them to go after such bullsh*t pop culture phenoms like Hannah Montana, High School Musical, and everything else, they get an A for effort. Still, the execution doesn't mean I'll see their films anytime soon. And we haven't heard from these guys since Disaster Movie!
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You really think they get an A for effort just because they "make fun of pop culture?" They don't though, that's the thing about it. They just take look-a-likes and put them in bizarre situations. In the case of Hannah Montana, for example, she gets hit with an meteorite... So? How does this mock her rapid rise to fame on a foundation of the most bubblegumyiest of pop music? Seriously, if you REALLY want someone to go after pop culture like that, I'll try to get some buddies together and I guarantee I can produce MUCH better satire in a single afternoon. If anything, Seltzerberg is GLORIFYING them - simply using their image and essentially saying "everyone knows who you are, so this will be funny."
The only real "going after" that occurred in DM was Juno, where they made fun of the overly mature manner in which she spoke, and always tried to sound witty. Otherwise, it's "the Hulk gets his pants blown off by a tornado, then gets hit by a cow" then "Iron Man tries to stop the tornado, and then gets hit by a cow" then "Hannah Montana gets hit by a meteorite" then "Hancock gets ready to save the day, but hits his head on a lightpost." I still think that DM should be listed in at least the top 5 worst movies of all time.
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Originally posted by sportsartist24

I read in Rolling Stone critic's Peter Travers (whose a voting RAZZIE member as well) on this not just giving this zero stars but is thinking that this has a shot at the title for Worst Movie of the Decade. Here's a LINK to read his full review...

If this movie has a shot at Worst Movie of the Decade, then it's somewhere behind Battlefield Earth, Freddy Got Fingered, Rollerball, Dumb and Dumberer, Gigli, Catwoman, Alone in the Dark, Son of the Mask, Date Movie/Disaster Movie/Epic Movie/Meet the Spartans, the High School Musical trilogy, I Know Who Killed Me, Twilight, and Hannah Montana: The Movie.

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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

You really think they get an A for effort just because they "make fun of pop culture?" They don't though, that's the thing about it. They just take look-a-likes and put them in bizarre situations. In the case of Hannah Montana, for example, she gets hit with an meteorite... So? How does this mock her rapid rise to fame on a foundation of the most bubblegumyiest of pop music? Seriously, if you REALLY want someone to go after pop culture like that, I'll try to get some buddies together and I guarantee I can produce MUCH better satire in a single afternoon. If anything, Seltzerberg is GLORIFYING them - simply using their image and essentially saying "everyone knows who you are, so this will be funny."
The only real "going after" that occurred in DM was Juno, where they made fun of the overly mature manner in which she spoke, and always tried to sound witty. Otherwise, it's "the Hulk gets his pants blown off by a tornado, then gets hit by a cow" then "Iron Man tries to stop the tornado, and then gets hit by a cow" then "Hannah Montana gets hit by a meteorite" then "Hancock gets ready to save the day, but hits his head on a lightpost." I still think that DM should be listed in at least the top 5 worst movies of all time.


Hey, I'm not disagreeing with the fact that Disaster Movie is one of the worst films of all time. Even if it dared to poke fun at tired trends, you need to have a professional screenwriting team who can mine them for genuine laughs and satire. Unfortunately, Disaster Movie lacked that sheen. Believe me, you won't catch me dead watching Seltzerberg films.
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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Originally posted by sportsartist24

I read in Rolling Stone critic's Peter Travers (whose a voting RAZZIE member as well) on this not just giving this zero stars but is thinking that this has a shot at the title for Worst Movie of the Decade. Here's a [COLOR=#ff0000">LINK[/COLOR"> to read his full review...


If this movie has a shot at Worst Movie of the Decade, then it's somewhere behind Battlefield Earth, Freddy Got Fingered, Rollerball, Dumb and Dumberer, Gigli, Catwoman, Alone in the Dark, Son of the Mask, Date Movie/Disaster Movie/Epic Movie/Meet the Spartans, the High School Musical trilogy, I Know Who Killed Me, Twilight, and Hannah Montana: The Movie.



To be fair, whether WE liked them or not, I don't think the HSM movies are really all that bad for what they are, nor is Twilight. Hannah Montana may even be debatably tolerable to the right demographic.
I'm not saying I like them or recommend them, but you really shouldn't put them on the same plate as the others, which were yea... pretty damn bad.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Originally posted by sportsartist24

I read in Rolling Stone critic's Peter Travers (whose a voting RAZZIE member as well) on this not just giving this zero stars but is thinking that this has a shot at the title for Worst Movie of the Decade. Here's a [COLOR=#ff0000">LINK[/COLOR"> to read his full review...


If this movie has a shot at Worst Movie of the Decade, then it's somewhere behind Battlefield Earth, Freddy Got Fingered, Rollerball, Dumb and Dumberer, Gigli, Catwoman, Alone in the Dark, Son of the Mask, Date Movie/Disaster Movie/Epic Movie/Meet the Spartans, the High School Musical trilogy, I Know Who Killed Me, Twilight, and Hannah Montana: The Movie.



To be fair, whether WE liked them or not, I don't think the HSM movies are really all that bad for what they are, nor is Twilight. Hannah Montana may even be debatably tolerable to the right demographic.
I'm not saying I like them or recommend them, but you really shouldn't put them on the same plate as the others, which were yea... pretty damn bad.

Gosh, the HSM movies must really get to some people. I actually bought the movie on Blu-Ray, the 3-disc set, the week it came out. There was a good deal that I couldn't pass up. I really enjoyed the movie.

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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

If this movie has a shot at Worst Movie of the Decade, then it's somewhere behind Battlefield Earth, Freddy Got Fingered, Rollerball, Dumb and Dumberer, Gigli, Catwoman, Alone in the Dark, Son of the Mask, Date Movie/Disaster Movie/Epic Movie/Meet the Spartans, the High School Musical trilogy, I Know Who Killed Me, Twilight, and Hannah Montana: The Movie.

Let's see, that is a tall order to make. Is this movie as bad as:

1. A movie whose DP thought having the camera at a tilted angle at all times was a good idea. (BFE 3000).

2. Whomever thought 90 minutes of Tom Green making random noises with his mouth would be funny. (FGF).

3. An uncalled for remake starring a second banana from "American Pie", a rapper, and a supermodel. (RB).

4. The first movie in a long line of unfunny Jim Carey sequels that were without Carey himself. (D&Der).

5. Bennifer's train wreck of a "rom-com". (G).

6. The worst comic book movie EVER, which had NOTHING to do with the comic book it was suppose to be an adaptation of. (CW).

7. One of Uwe Boll's many "masterpieces". (AITD).

8. Another Jim Carey-less sequel to a Jim Carey movie. (SOTM).

9. Anything Seltzerberg makes.

10. Disney milking a dumb idea for all it's worth. (HSM).

11. Lindsay Lohan in a glorifed Sci-Fi (sorry, Sy-Fy) Channel TV movie. (IKWKM).

12. A romantic vampire movie in which the vampires are nothing like actual vampires. (T).

13. Disney's other milking of a dumb idea. (HM).

The answer: YEAH, it's at least on par with all those movies. Peter hit the nail on the head.

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Decepticon forces return to Earth on a mission to take Sam Witwicky prisoner, after the young hero learns the truth about the ancient origins of the Transformers. Joining the mission to protect humankind is Optimus Prime, who forms an alliance with international armies for a second epic battle.

So there it was. The trailer. Played on the silver screen. It looked darker than the previous film. The tagline "Revenge is coming" reinforces that aspect. It excited me. This could really be a serious, dark movie, like THE DARK KNIGHT. I was wrong. So wrong. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I was insane hoping for a serious, dark, gritty action flick from Michael Bay. In fact, the trailer doesn't show any of the crude and sexual humor throughout the film. And you know what? I found the jokes pretty funny. Sure, some of the jokes are just disgusting (you'd be surprised what lays hidden in this movie), but I liked the laid back feel.

The plot was...confusing, I will admit, but in a film like this, does it really matter? The movie never ceases to be entertaining. The action sequences are amazing, but directed by Michael Bay, it's not surprising. If there is one thing I have to say about him, he knows how to entertain audiences. And he was right when he said there would be more action scenes in the film. You thought the first movie had a lot of action scenes? Oh, God, I wouldn't even begin. To keep it simple, the special effects are nothing short of being flawless. I loved the score by Steve Jablonsky, most of it being brought back from the first movie.

In an interview with Megan Fox, the sexy actress said the following: "This movie is not about acting." And she's right. I can go on saying that the humans in the films were actually the robots, but that's not particularly true. You have to give credit to Shia LaBeouf's part, at least. He does a swell job, given the material. I found John Turturro to be quite annoying in the first film but the producers or writers decided it was a good idea to bring him back. I still found him annoying in the film and I especially rolled my eyes when he was doing a serious scene.

This goes along with Sam's parents in the film, Kevin Dunn and Julie White, although I don't find them quite as annoying. In fact, I enjoyed most of their scenes. They give some good comic relief throughout the film. I just didn't like them being serious because you just can't take them seriously. The writers apparently thought Ramon Rodriguez's character was a good idea. I just really hated him. Josh Duhamel and Tyrese Gibson also returned for the sequel, although they don't have much to do. Overall, the whole cast pretty much had one thing to do: Run in slow motion.

With all the positives, there was no doubt some negatives. The most obvious is the overly long running time. I don't think Michael Bay ever made a movie less than two hours. I would've liked the movie if it were thirty minutes shorter. It was until the third act that I realized how long the movie was going to be. It started to meander a bit after that and there came a point in the film that there was just overkill. The movie was just really long. Another thing that annoyed me was a pair of twin Transformers. Actually, add another Transformer. All three of them were yelling profanity throughout. Not my thing.

If you walk into the movie with the right mindset, you'd be surprised that you had enjoyed most of the film. The action sequences are just fantastic but the plot is lacking. The actors don't have much to do but to run around and scream. But really, what are you going to expect when you walk into a Michael Bay film? A plot? Great performances? A delightful script? Nah. You'd expect action. Action. And did I mention action? ****
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Peter... Rabbit?

Travers, actually. Is the Disney tweens humor getting to you?

By the way, here's a video I found amusing, as it mocks Bay and just about every cliche you see in ... every ... single ... "movie" he makes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7-Hes1Hlw

Too bad the outcome to this movie couldn't be different.

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Long time no post, but as much as Razz will Razz me for saying this it has to be said (Just like I said on the 1st on), If you looking for one hell of a action flick for the summer this movie delivers in spades!!! If you are looking for the next Cannes or Academy Award winner, just keep on looking (except maybe in SFX or Sound).

Anyways, Let face it, there are plenty of movies this year that deserve our "dishonors" (Land of the Lost or Year One anyone?) more than this movie...  

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I forgot about that...Sue me.
And if you want a good action movie this year, we had Crank: High Voltage, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Probably about as much plot, but much, much more creative.

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Ok, I'll probably put that on my Rent Movies list...

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