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    Posted: August 10 2010 at 2:33pm
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Well, as we all know, Jackie Chan is the funniest action movie star of all, seeing as how he injects comedy into his action movies ... and not by mistake.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Berrynoia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 6:16am
Right now, the Expendables has an early score of 52% on RT (11 Fresh, 10 Rotten).  While it does have stars that have "won" numerous Razzies in the past (including Sly, of course), it seems that that is the only true thing going against the movie.  Jonah Hex looks more like the Razzie front-runner to me right now.  

Also, we are about a week away from Vampires Suck, and  we all know how Seltzerberg movies go.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 8:41am
Let's not forget, with a whopping 8% approval at RT, and M. Night's history with the Razzies, "Last FartBender" is the biggest Razzie front-runner right now.  
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A concensus has been made: 

"It makes good on the old-school action it promises, but given all the talent on display, it should hit harder."  

So it's an average movie, not necessarily a bad one.  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I find it curious whenever a movie has a higher "approval number" at MetaCritic than it does at RT, since that is the inverse of what usually happens. And, as of 4pm/PST two daze before it is due to open, that is the case with EXPENDABLES -- It has a rating of 47% at RT (LINK) and a lower (though still not alarmingly low) 39% at Meta Critic (LINK). Not sure if I wanna go with my gut on this one, but has anyone else noticed how promotional materials for EXPENDABLES have been all over RT for the last month or two? Could that maybe factor into their making this film one of The Berry Few that has a higher rating from them than it does from their rival (and perhaps the more reliable) site??  

Guess we'll all find out for ourselves when EXPENDABLES opens this weekend... 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote scoobs23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 8:22pm
Or it could be because Metacritic has only 6 reviews compared to the 30 plus reviews on RT.....
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But Last Airbender doesn't deserve to be the biggest Razzie front-runner. It's not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. In fact, all other sites have generally decent ratings for the film. TLA ranked higher than MNS's last two films in the RT community score with an average rating of 5.7/10. Yahoo's user's rating is a C+, which is higher than The Happening's C-. Boxofficemojo's user's rating is a B-. Also, the film didn't drop off as hard as Lady in the Water and The Happening. It remained in the top 10 for 4 weeks, which is more than what many who hated the film would have expected. If it was really a horrible film, the film would not have made over $180 million as of today. Word of mouth would have killed the film. It didn't, so while you can use the 8% on RT as proof that it's a horrible film, it's not consistent with the other information that I just provided which again proves that critics are predisposed to not liking MNS's films since Lady in the Water. Here's an interesting article about TLA: http://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/article_2705cf4a-f939-5edc-948a-3f9e72475337.html
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 9:45pm
MWG, the most meaningless numbers you possibly site are "community" or "fan" or "user" ratings, whatever the specific website chooses to call them. Reason #1: Very few people like to shell out 10 bucks + for a movie, then come home and say, "Wow, that sucked." Most people will try to justify their purchase somehow, or at least somewhat. Reason #2: Those ratings will be biased by people, such as yourself who will not, under any circumstances, admit that the movie was bad. Typically they are fans of the movie maker or specific actors in it, they have been looking forward to the release of the film, and they are not viewing it dispassionately.
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How do you know that? Word of mouth killed Bruno. When people see a bad film, they'll actually shout it out and say it's a bad film.  

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

MWG, the most meaningless numbers you possibly site are "community" or "fan" or "user" ratings, whatever the specific website chooses to call them. Reason #1: Very few people like to shell out 10 bucks + for a movie, then come home and say, "Wow, that sucked." Most people will try to justify their purchase somehow, or at least somewhat.


You can say the same about MNS haters who, such as yourself, will not, under any circumstances, admit that the movie was not as bad as people make it out to be. It goes both ways.  

Reason #2: Those ratings will be biased by people, such as yourself who will not, under any circumstances, admit that the movie was bad. Typically they are fans of the movie maker or specific actors in it, they have been looking forward to the release of the film, and they are not viewing it dispassionately.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:00pm
I know it because it is a demonstrable fact. User ratings consistantly run higher than critical ratings. H.L. Menken recognized that decades ago when he quipped, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." The famous quote is sometimes erroneously attributed to P.T. Barnum who probably never said it, but got rich off the principle.  

How do you know that? Word of mouth killed Bruno. When people see a bad film, they'll actually shout it out and say it's a bad film.

Actually, there have been numerous occasions on this board where I have admitted that specific films weren't as bad as I expected them to be. If you are going to make charges of that nature, you better be prepared to substantiate them. In this case, I can destroy your claim with examples.  

You can say the same about MNS haters who, such as yourself, will not, under any circumstances, admit that the movie was not as bad as people make it out to be. It goes both ways.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Berrynoia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 5:51pm
Let's remember, the TomatoMeter doesn't predict front-runners.  

Last year, there were these three turds that did horrible with crix and viewers: Miss March, Draggin Ball Devolution, and Street Fighter: Chun Li.  Despite their failings, the only nomination among these was a Worst Supporting Actor nod for Hugh Hefner in Miss March.  And Trannies 2 had some positive reviews, more than the other three.

And even Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2 didn't "win" Razzies.  It has absolutely monstrous reviews, it constantly ranks at or near #1 on the IMDB Bottom 100, yet it was beaten by Catwoman and the "acting" politicians of Fahrenheit 9/11 (Dubya and Donald).
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This is true, but "FartBender" has something that those other movies didn't, a director/producer/writer with a rich history with the Razzies!  

Originally posted by Berrynoia


Let's remember, the TomatoMeter doesn't predict front-runners.

Last year, there were these three turds that did horrible with crix and viewers: Miss March, Draggin Ball Devolution, and Street Fighter: Chun Li.  Despite their failings, the only nomination among these was a Worst Supporting Actor nod for Hugh Hefner in Miss March.  And Trannies 2 had some positive reviews, more than the other three.

And even Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2 didn't "win" Razzies.  It has absolutely monstrous reviews, it constantly ranks at or near #1 on the IMDB Bottom 100, yet it was beaten by Catwoman and the "acting" politicians of Fahrenheit 9/11 (Dubya and Donald).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 8:59pm
Does this mean The Stale Air Bender is going to get nominated for Worst Picture?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 9:04pm
I'm saying it's a shoo-in to get a nod for Worst Picture. If it will actually win that award, I'm not too certain about... 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sanndman228715 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2010 at 11:36am
Mickey Rourke has given several really good performances, The Wrestler, Diner, Sin City, Rumble Fish, Body Heat. And Eric Roberts had Runaway Train and Star 80. 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I am unclear what the past track records of actors appearing in EXPENDABLES have to do with anything being discussed here. Every one of the actors in this film (with the possible exception of Dolph Lundgren) has appeared in at least one film what either got great reviews, grossed a fortune, or both. However, that information is irrelevant if they truly suck in this current project...  

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Aren't those cameos?
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