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    Posted: November 11 2009 at 11:17am

Or maybe a case of coincidence, where critics who happen to submit their reviews first end up being positive, while those who submit their reviews later are negative? 

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

RT ratings are dropping rapidly. Down to 53% at the moment. It sounds like another case of the Hollywood early critic selection problem.



 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 3:30pm

Nope. It's down to 38%. And as HeadRazz originally stated, most, and I stress MOST, of the positive reviews include the phrase "guilty pleasure." Combine that with "so bad it's good" and "comically bad". It's becoming quite the trend for big budget blockbusters to come out with positive reviews before the release, and then those with better credentials (and credibility) dislike it later.

We've brought this up several times now, with GI Joe and a few others. I have a feeling this will become more and more common.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2009 at 9:53am
Well, let's be honest, were you expecting this movie to be good good? I didn't think anyone did. Roger Ebert gave it a 3.5/4 saying it's worth what you're paying to see (which is massive destruction). Why is it such a bad thing that the movie offers something what audiences are obviously paying to see in the first place? Michael Philips also gave it a positive review.
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The fact that Roger Ebert had positive things to say about this film is not particularly impressive. Like most critics out there, there I times I agree with his assessments and times I think he is off base. When large numbers of critics develop a consensus, that is more worthy of attention.

I think dEd may be onto something. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the major studios start being very selective about the critics for whom they prescreen their films. There is obviously advantage if they have a lot invested in a movie to get favorable reviews out front, so they have a vested interest in screening films for critics who are apt to be sympathetic to the film or, more cynically stated but still probably accurate, critics whom they have in their backpocket.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 4:05pm
And early reviews will likely have an influence on future reviews, as well. This, of course, isn't terribly professional, but it's very likely to happen.
As for whether or not there were expectations of it being good... No, I don't think anyone worth their salt thought it was going to be any good, which leads me to beg restraint of myself while MWG sets up a defense of it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Michaels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2009 at 1:52pm
Well, like it or not (like it, in MWG's case), the movie made a whole lot of money, regardless if the reviews were "positive" or not. Like "Trannies 2" and Michael Bay before them, the people behind this movie are laughing their way to the bank and are already planning what their next CGI porno will be. My guess is "The Day After 2012 ... BC".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2009 at 1:08pm
It didn't really make that much though... $65m on opening weekend? And I believe the production budget was $260m, not $200m... There's a chance that this movie might actually lose money.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2009 at 1:43pm
Actually, the movie made around $220 million world wide. Since The Day After Tomorrow (with similar opening number) finished around $550 million, it seems likely that this film will make money.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2009 at 4:55pm
Where are you getting the world wide stats from?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2009 at 5:02pm
I found it on the AP. I still think this movie is more
Moviepocalypse than Apocalypse.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Michaels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2009 at 6:22pm
Well, at least that $220 million figure was not the USA gross alone, because that would just be sickening. That would be a sign of the Moviepocalypse indeed! Two brain dead, weak storied, CGI driven movies making over $400 million within a matter of months in one year, that's just evil. But then again, all of 2010 to 2012 is nothing but remakes and sequels and adaptations (of board games no less!), so yeah the Moviepocalypse is here!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2009 at 3:18am
Well, I again plead to you all to not pay to see any of this crap full-priced at least. I'm refusing to see 2012 and I had a chance to see it for free.
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WHAT?!?!?! Give me the free ticket then!!!


 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 1:35pm
It was only for the sneak preview, and only at this one local theater at a specific time. Most of our sneak passes work that way. Sometimes, we get run-of-engagement passes, which are way better...  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Michaels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2009 at 1:55am
Even "for free" is too high a price to see this movie!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2009 at 2:24pm
It surely costs one a part of one's soul to see.
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