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    Posted: September 17 2011 at 9:38pm
Here goes:  

1.) Raiders Of The Lost Ark   
2.) 2001: A Space Odyssey   
3.) The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly  
4.) Raging Bull  
5.) Apocalypse Now  
6.) The Exorcist 
7.) Unforgiven  
8.) Pulp Fiction  
9.) Memento  
10.) The Wild Bunch.
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I for one would like to know what your Top 10 Favorite Movies of All-Time are, SchumacherH8ter -- if you wouldn't mind.
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I love both Platoon and Full Metal Jacket. While Platoon is better made, Full Metal Jacket is more memorable. Alas, they both have nothing on Apocalypse Now, the best war movie ever and my 5th favorite movie of all time!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SuperTeenTopia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 12:30pm
The whole Lawerance thing was a message about the process in which an average Joe is made into a soldier and how  doesn't always work out as planned. I felt that his change was not rushed, and after all the mental and physical crap he was put through, a descent into madness seemed unavoidable. He's not mentioned again because they are no longer living in that phrase of their lives of soldiers, it's like looking back at childhood when you're an adult, you're past that point. They are no longer "maggots", they are now actual soldiers, so why bother reflecting about their time as "maggots"?
 
The point of Private Joker is the conflicting opinions of war. Yes, he writes "born to kill" on his helmet, but what happens in the end when he has to kill? He won't do it. It's easy to say you're going to kill someone, but it's not so easy to do it, and that was something he needed to learn. Joker hid behind quotes and sayings, but when faced with reality, he had nothing to say. And this grey area was the whole point of the movie. It's not there to tell you what's right or wrong, it shows you both sides, and it's up for you to judge for yourself, and that's the best kind of war movie and this movie showcased this perfectly.
 
4/5 in my opinion. And Platoon is also 4/5 in my opinion, but I'll take FMJ over Platoon anyday, for its more raw look at war and how it's not for everyone.
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I just saw FULL METAL JACKET.

Both the pacing and the tone are inconsistent(specially because this is 2 movies into 1).The narration seemed like a last minute adition.And,though most of the dramatic moments are gripping,a few are manipulative.The best example is LAWRENCE/GOMER PYLE.His
"change" was too rushed and after he dies he's never mentioned again and it seems they wanted us to forget about him.Then what was the point?

But the main problem is the intention.There's a scene where PRIVATE JOKER wears a helmet that says "Born to kill" and he also has the peace sign.He's asked why and he doesn't know how to answer.This is where I realize they're trying to show us their stand on the war.But it's never clear.Are they against it?Do they support it?Neither?Both?What does both really mean?I'm not saying one has to take a stand,let alone show it in the movie,but like I said,they tried to do it...and failed.

I give this 6/10.If you want a better Vietnam War movie,watch PLATOON(9/10).

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1. That's why SchmacherH8ter's reviews are my favorites here. He gives short, semi-detailed reasons why he's giving the grades that he does, and through his writing, you understand why those aspects are so bad. But your opinion of "Godfather" is your right, I was just questioning why the score you gave it was ... given. But after a page worth of debate, I'll leave you to it. 
 
2. I was talking about the older age means more serious thing within the critic industry, but to use humor for younger audiences has to be done in order to make the old critics relatable, for two reasons: A. The critics won't come across as bitter old farts who hate all modern filmmaking like CGI, and B. A large percentage of movie goers are young (13-25). That's probably why Spill.com is so popular, they're young and they use humor in everything. 

Originally posted by Vits

1. Since we're on that subject,I want to take back when I asked SchumacherH8ter why did he gave C or D when he listed more bad things.Now,I see why.While I didn't gave say enough reasons as to why I didn't gave it a 10 it's because that's just how the movie felt to me...deserving of a 7.I don't review every movie I see because my reviews are for cases where I don't just want to say how I felt but also to deconstruct and analyze the movie and say why it deserves a certain grade.THE GODFATHER is clearly a berry good movie and it deserves to be called one of the best movies ever.But for me it just didn't feel that entertaining or artistic.And,regardless of his methods,I simply didn't like Pacino's performance which is also a matter of opinion and if I believed him or not,and I didn't.Isn't that a reason to not love the movie,even if it's not enough to lower the grade?
2. Don't worry,I've lived there and I know you think that below Mexico the world ends.

Explain me something:If Travers is older,why are his reviews full of humour too?Isn't that a method to appeal for younger audiences?

I have nor will never say I know more than someone older,because I know I don't.But is that a reason my opinion shouldn't be respected at all?Like I said,I don't review all movies.I do it when I have something new to add to the table,not to change others's opinions,but so they can consider it.Let's assume that I hated a certain aspect in a classic and then analyze why and it turns out I'm right.Will people stop loving that movie?No,they'll just love it despite the flaw.And I wouldn't care.Giving a movie a grade(which is something everyone does in some degree)isn't about calculating a concensus of details,it's how a movie made you feel after you've seen it.

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Since we're on that subject,I want to take back when I asked SchumacherH8ter why did he gave C or D when he listed more bad things.Now,I see why.While I didn't gave say enough reasons as to why I didn't gave it a 10 it's because that's just how the movie felt to me...deserving of a 7.I don't review every movie I see because my reviews are for cases where I don't just want to say how I felt but also to deconstruct and analyze the movie and say why it deserves a certain grade.THE GODFATHER is clearly a berry good movie and it deserves to be called one of the best movies ever.But for me it just didn't feel that entertaining or artistic.And,regardless of his methods,I simply didn't like Pacino's performance which is also a matter of opinion and if I believed him or not,and I didn't.Isn't that a reason to not love the movie,even if it's not enough to lower the grade?  

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

I just want legit reasons as to why you give less than perfect scores to classic movies based on one thing you disapproved of.

Don't worry,I've lived there and I know you think that below Mexico the world ends.

Explain me something:If Travers
is older,why are his reviews full of humour too?Isn't that a method to appeal for younger audiences?  

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

In your country, age might not matter, but it does in America. In America, the older the critic is, the more he's respected because people think of him as seeing alot of movies for most of his life and knowing what is good and bad, where as younger critics are looked at as the "hipster" critic who is just brought in to say if they thought a popcorn movie was good or not. Prime examples would be Peter Travers as the wise, old critic with decades of experience, and the Spill.com critics as guys who are just having fun while watching and rating movies.
 

I have nor will never say I know more than someone older,because I know I don't.But is that a reason my opinion shouldn't be respected at all?Like I said,I don't review all movies.I do it when I have something new to add to the table,not to change others's opinions,but so they can consider it.Let's assume that I hated a certain aspect in a classic and then analyze why and it turns out I'm right.Will people stop loving that movie?No,they'll just love it despite the flaw.And I wouldn't care.Giving a movie a grade(which is something everyone does in some degree)isn't about calculating a concensus of details,it's how a movie made you feel after you've seen it.


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I just want legit reasons as to why you give less than perfect scores to classic movies based on one thing you disapproved of. As I said, one point away because you didn't like one main peformance, or slow pacing, or dated special effects, I can understand, but with three points or more, there needs to be stronger reasons like a big plothole or something. And like many other who posted here, I find the 10 point method to be heavily flawed and confusing. But again, that's just me.
 
As for your status as a critic, well, I'm sure Chile has different mindsets about a critic's age. In your country, age might not matter, but it does in America. In America, the older the critic is, the more he's respected because people think of him as seeing alot of movies for most of his life and knowing what is good and bad, where as younger critics are looked at as the "hipster" critic who is just brought in to say if they thought a popcorn movie was good or not. Prime examples would be Peter Travers as the wise, old critic with decades of experience, and the Spill.com critics as guys who are just having fun while watching and rating movies.  

Originally posted by Vits

2)Come on.I've been through enough forums to know the deal.Let's say that of all the classics I've seen,I've liked most of them.But you wouldn't care.You would just care about the ones I didn't like.I said that I liked 3 of the 4 main performances in THE GODFATHER and all you care was about one of them.If you disagree with me,fine.But at least admit that statement is true.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2011 at 9:34am
1)Most of what I post here are comments,not reviews.That's why I asked.If you think my opinions are wrong, that's fine, because that's also an opinion, which is the whole point. But I want you to read first my fulll reviews -- The link is in my signature. 

2)Come on.I've been through enough forums to know the deal. Let's say that of all the classics I've seen, I've liked most of them. But you wouldn't care. You would just care about the ones I didn't like. I said that I liked 3 of the 4 main performances in THE GODFATHER and all you care was about one of them. If you disagree with me, fine. But at least admit that statement is true.

3)Sorry, I forgot you're new here. I now work as a film critic for the magazine La Pollera. That link is also in my signature.

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Vits --  

1. I've read most of what you posted here. 

2. Based on what you have posted, it seems you're often unimpressed by classic films.  

3. Who hired you? Are you professional, or just a some guy who posts reviews on IMDb.com for his own amusement?
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SuperTeenTopia: 

1)How many of my reviews(not comments) have you read all the way through?  

2)Why do you assume I dislike all the old movies I've seen?  

3)Why would they hire me if I'm "too young"?
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Well, like it or not, age is a big factor in whether  you're going to like certain movies. If you're under the age of 30, and you give a perfect score to some popcorn movie that's all CGI and no story, but then give a low score to a classic black and white movie, people will write you off as being too young and not knowing what makes a good movie. 

That's just the way it works, and why most critics are old men, because after 30-50 years of movie watching, they should know what a good movie is.  

Originally posted by Vits

 2)I won't deny my age sometimes makes me look at movies differently,but I have a problem when people seem to only care abouit my age.
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Well, nowadays, Pacino "mails it in" almost all the time, but I was just mentioning his overuse of both whisphering and yelling.  


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1)I didn't review them, I commented on them. I didn't gave them my usual analysis, and as I did with THE GODFATHER.
 
2)I won't deny my age sometimes makes me look at movies differently, but I have a problem when people seem to only care about my age. There is no movie that everyone will like, and there never will be. But you respond to me as if I hated this one. I liked it, and gave it 4 stars out of 5.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

I was talking about your other reviews of classic movies, ie. "2001" and "Ghostbusters". There's a reason why most professional critics are old men, they grew up watching movies from different eras, and they do not judge them from what more modern movies can accomplish.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2011 at 5:39pm
I disagree on at least one point: Pacino totally mailed it in with his performance in Any Given Sunday. That shouldn't be surprising. It was a dreadful movie and he was so wildly miscast it isn't hard to understand why he didn't take it seriously.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia 

 
Back to Pacino, if you have seen enough of his movies, you will know full well that he doesn't do anything half-assed.

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1. Well, there are millions of movie lovers who would strongly disagree with you, but that's your opinion and I suppose you're entitled to it.
2. Again, that's your opinion. I just think three points is a bit much due to such a trival thing like an actor being soft spoken because that's what is called for the character. It's like giving a low score to "Rain Man" for calling Dustin Hoffman's performance annoying when it's one of the main traits of the Raymond character.
3. I was talking about your other reviews of classic movies, ie. "2001" and "Ghostbusters". There's a reason why most professional critics are old men, they grew up watching movies from different eras, and they do not judge them from what more modern movies can accomplish.  

Originally posted by Vits

1)Regardless of how Pacino spoke, I didn't like his performance.
2)I know it's considered that,but that does not obligate me to love it. 
When did I say anything like that?  
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