QuoteReplyTopic: Did "Titanic" Deserve Oscars or RAZZIES?? Posted: November 09 2010 at 9:15am
It's very apparent that Titanic didn't only appeal to "teenage girls." You know how it made a lot of money? By appealing to almost every demographic. If it only appealed to teen girls, it would make only like $300 million like any other Twilight film but it appealed to the female population with its romance story, it appealed to the male population with its action-packed third act, and it appealed to the elderly population and people don't realize they have a significant effect at the box office. Case in point, Red is dropping ever so slightly each week, showing strong legs.
RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: It's also an unspoken truth in Hollywood that any movie that tops about $250 million in domestic box office derives 10% or more of its grosses from repeat customers -- people who pay to see the same film over and over again (some movie-goers will see the same film 10 times or more). Thus one cannot equate the total gross ($600 million domestic/$1.8 Billion worldwide in TITANIC's case = LINK) as reflecting the number of individual movie-goers who actually saw the film. In TITANIC's case, I suspect that as much as 15%-20% of its total take was from repeat viewings...
Yeah, teenage girls were the target audience, and of course I'm sure those girls went in groups, and had their boyfriends tag along, and families probably went, too. But we should also note the movie-going habits of 1997. This was long before Netflix, PPV rentals, the sudden boom of movie downloads online, and other reasons why people don't go to movie theaters as often these days. I doubt, with those factors added in, the movie would male the same amount of money if it were released today.
The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.
I say it deserved all the OSCAR nominations it got except the Big 5 (Picture, Actor, Actress, Director, Screenplay).
If the reviews are as good as I think they are, it's still right in the middle of the 30 best films of 1997.
RAZZIE Dirty Dozen: Battlefield Earth, F G Fingered, Pluto Nash, A Sound of Thunder, Alone in the Dark, Dirty Love, Rise Silver Srfr, Daddy Day Camp, IKWKM, The Love Guru, All About Steve, Airbender
I say it deserved all the OSCAR nominations it got except the Big 5 (Picture, Actor, Actress, Director, Screenplay).
My point exactly.
The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.
That is, unless there were no others. Then I'd say it deserved only one of those.
UPDATE: I read it over. Also rule out Original Song. 10 nominations would remain.
Perhaps, when something bad is said about a movie, it's only so bad, but it sounds much worse.
RAZZIE Dirty Dozen: Battlefield Earth, F G Fingered, Pluto Nash, A Sound of Thunder, Alone in the Dark, Dirty Love, Rise Silver Srfr, Daddy Day Camp, IKWKM, The Love Guru, All About Steve, Airbender
I remember that they released a film back in 2009 called The Storm about the North Sea Flood of 1953. I remember reading about how several people who lived through these floods atented the premiere of this film. There response was that the film was very implausible, no one in there right would have walked or swom through the water just after this disaster (what many of the main characters did), mainly because it was icecold and they knew that they would die if they did that. I believe this is also one of the fatal flaws of this film.
Am i also the only one who thinks that Titanic is superior to Avatar. Don't get me wrong i think Titanic is a mediocre film that should have never won. But Avatar shouldn't even have been nominated. It had a lot of potential with it's groundbreaking special effects and the amount of time spend creating this new world, but beyond that it just seems as if James Cameron just didn't cared about the story anymore. Half way through the movie i already knew what was going to happen in the other half of the movie (which is always a bad sign). I knew that Jake Sully was going to regain the trust of the na'vi by controlling that that giant untouchable pterodactyl-like creature. After that they just recycle the same plot as every other mediocre action/sci-fi epic released. * A big army of bad guys confronts a small army of good guys. * The big army seems to win. * The good army gets unexpected help out of nowhere. * The entire bad army is destroyed except for the main villian. * The main villian has a final fight to the dead with the main hero. * Eventhough it may look like he's going to lose a couple of times, the main hero pulls through and wins the fight. One could argue that it was an entirely new vissual world and that a lot of the budget and focus was swalowed into perfecting these inoveting special effects, leaving it kind of weak in the story departmant as happened with a lot of vissually inovating films like Snow White, Toy Story and Sin City, but the difference is that these films didn't win the Golden Globe for best film, these films wern't nominated (and frontrunner) for the Best Picture-oscar. Jesus, how did Cameron get away with that.
Well said and I too think that none of those movies deserve Oscars ever but still it is a fact that why Avatar was not being nominated for Razzies. Talking about late movies then one can keep saying that at that time Titanic was the only movie with great theme and storyline.
Titanic was up against good movies that year. Titanic was a good movie, i don't think it deserves a razzie and maybe since it won awards in several categories more than all those other good films that year then maybe it deserved the Oscar award for Best Picture that the movie got. If it was that bad then it wouldn't become the top-grossing movie of all time before Avatar took away the throne.
Just like it's understandable if someone didn't like "2001",it's understandable if someone didn't like TITANIC(*****).But there's more than it's FX.The story may contain familiar elements,but does that make it a bad script all together?No.I admit there were some boring scenes,even with JACK & ROSE.But I didn't mind since I knew what was coming.Seriously,if you're against their romance it's completely fine,since after the ship hits the iceberg it becomes less and less cliche.It has one of the best film scores,pop-rock songs and endings in movie history,all of which make me cry everytime.
All of this statements(except that last sentence)can also be applied to AVATAR(****).
By the way,the other day I saw the alternative ending,which sucked.Has anyone else seen it?
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