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    Posted: November 20 2011 at 4:55pm
HERE's the LINK to VOTE in OUR POLL on 2011's CONTENDERS for WORST REMAKE/RIP-OFF or SEQUEL. 

TO DISCUSS OUR CHOICES (and YOURS!) SIMPLY REPLY BELOW...  
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Mostly berry good selection, but there are at least 3 titles I would expect to see listed here that are not: Red Riding Hood, Pirates #4 and Final Destination 5.  
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RESPONSE from head RAZZberry: I used the same "formula" for determining what is listed in this poll that has been used for years to determine what ends up on our Nominating Ballot -- A combination of: 

1) The film's critical rating (at both RT and MetaCritic) 

2) The film's budget-to-box-office ratio (relying on B.O. MoJo for that info) 

3) The film's "RAZZIE Pedigree" (how many people involved in this film have been nominated for and/or "won" RAZZIES in years past) 

and...   

4) Since this Forum began a few years back, our latest yardstick is the degree of interest in the film as a contender, as measured by how many posts (and how many "hits" overall) each title received as a subject of Forum discussion.

By one or more of these measures, each of the films you sited (while they were all the subject of Forum discussions) did not score as high as the 15 titles listed above. 

If you'd like to see the Forum discussions of the 3 films you mentioned, here are the LINKS for each: 

 


 
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In a private message, HeadRAZZ explained to me that, because this was the year of "pulling a FAST FIVE", surprisingly there aren't enough contenders to split the category. So, my front-runners for this category as one are: BATTLE L.A., COWBOYS & ALIENS*, MONTE CARLO*, PRIEST, RED RIDING HOOD, SANCTUM, SEASON OF THE WITCH, THE SMURFS and ZOOKEEPER.

My runner-ups are: ABDUCTION, BIG MOMMAS 3, CONAN, FAST FIVE*, FINAL DESTINATION 5, I AM NUMBER 4, JUST GO WITH IT, PIRATES 4, REAL STEEL*, THE ROOMMATE and WATER FOR ELEPHANTS*.

*I know this ones don't have a chance, but they're my picks.
Originally posted by #1-Movie-Fan!

Mostly berry good selection, but there are at least 3 titles I would expect to see listed here that are not: Red Riding Hood, Pirates #4 and Final Destination 5.

Luckily, the movies in the poll aren't specifically the ones that will end up in the ballots. If you're lucky, most users will post those 3 as their contenders.
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Will more of these polls appear in the coming couple of weeks?  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Fast Answer -- yes! Since this is the time of year when most of what's being released is of Oscar® (rather than RAZZIE®) Caliber, between now and year's end (when our actual Nominating materials are scheduled to go out) I plan to run a poll per week, working our way up (or is that down?) toward Worst Picture as the final poll in the series, set for Friday, Dec. 30th...  
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Don't forget about these


WORST REMAKE OR RIPOFF

Battle Los Angeles

Red Riding Hood

The Roommate

Sucker Punch

WORST PREQUEL OR SEQUEL

Final Destination 5

Hoodwinked Too!: Hood vs Evil

Johnny English Reborn

Madea's Big Happy Family

Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides

 
 
Also, don't forget that we have more than enough films to split the categories again from Worst Sequel, Prequel, Remake, or Ripoff to Worst Sequel or Prequel AND Worst Remake or Ripoff.


Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are much more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.
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Out of these 15, I would choose the two August 19 releases: Conan the Barbarian [remake] and Spy Kids: All the Time in the World 4-D, and I would throw in the upcoming December release Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked (That BETTER be nominated for something, darnit!).

I will likely list Hoodwinked Too: Hood vs. Evil on my nominations as a sequel, but it's not in this poll because there aren't enough RAZZIE habitual offenders or hits for the discussion page.
 
Red Riding Hood was my front-runner for Worst Remake or Rip-off, and Big Mommas: Like Father, Like Son for Worst Prequel or Sequel but because so many sequels got exonerated this year, I have to list it for worst PSRR.
 
Other movies that would make good Worst PSRR finalists include The Roommate, The Rite, and On Stranger Tides.
 
UPDATE: As of 19:55 on my clock on Nvb. 26, Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part I is in the lead. I thought you people said it didn't stand a chance against this kind of competition!
 
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Since I find the idea of voting for something I haven't seen obscene, I had to vote for the worst film I saw on the poll, that being Just Go With It.
 
Other films that have forums here that I'd put on the ballot include: Hoodwinked Too, The Roommate, and Red Riding Hood.
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Considering for each category, there would be 5 official nominees so here are my 5 nominees:
 
HUMAN CENTIPEDE II COMPLETE SEQUENCE...Complete w/BARF BAGS!
SHARK NIGHT 3-D (Rip-Off of JAWS)
BIG MOMMAS 3: LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON 
JACK & JILL (Remake of GLEN or GLENDA)
BUCKY LARSON: BORN to BE a STAR (Remake of A STAR IS BORN)
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My 5 nominees are:

Big Mommas: Like Father Like Son
Conan the Barbarian
Jack & Jill
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1
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WHAT ABOUT CAURZ TOO (Cars 2)? PIXAR must win its first Razzie because of its crappy plot.
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HeadRazz, can you PLEASE explain what Hangover II is a "remake" of?  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Since the basic plot is IDENTICAL to that of the first HANGOVER...it's a REMAKE of it's own predecessor...


Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are much more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.
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Just a dumb question: Why is Bucky Larson considered a sequel?  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberrry: The category is Worst Remake/Rip-Off or Sequel -- In the text next to LARSON's title in the poll itself, we're saying the film is a (decidedly lame) remake of A STAR IS BORN...  
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Judging by HeadRAZZ's previous comments, I think it might be seen as a rip-off to the 1995 Razzie nominated movie 'It's Pat'.  

Originally posted by Grounder the Critic

Just a dumb question: Why is Bucky Larson considered a sequel?
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Hangover 1 of course...  

Originally posted by oiram

HeadRazz, can you PLEASE explain what Hangover II is a "remake" of?
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Yes the movie was off course. Off course to be a good film.
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