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    Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:05am
... And neither of those movies were actually scary.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy


Actually, if you look at the original Halloween and Nightmare on Elm St., they had "high" body counts, depending on the way you look at it. You take the number teens/characters that die in a movie over how many teens/characters there were. It's like proportion. Oh, and Orphan had like only three.
And the very first and original "Halloween" and "Nightmare" were fine they way they were, until a million sequels were made for each of them and it became a whole "what over the top ways can we kill people this time" deal.
 
Oh, and no one cares about "Orphan", it's not going to get any Oscar nods, give it up. My bet on it getting shut out still stands.
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The thing about Orphan is that there's no way I could possibly enjoy it after it's been so over-sold like this, and I've been tempted to rent it lately. Now I can't. Thanks MWG.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

The thing about Orphan is that there's no way I could possibly enjoy it after it's been so over-sold like this, and I've been tempted to rent it lately. Now I can't. Thanks MWG.

But why would you take my opinion seriously? I thought none of you took me seriously so me praising that film should really give you the opposing effect, which, through the course of events, will make you enjoy the movie.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2010 at 8:17pm
It's not even about your opinion anymore, you've simply talked about it too much.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:09am
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

It's not even about your opinion anymore, you've simply talked about it too much.

And why can't you just simply ignore what I say about Orphan? I don't see what the problem is. I've heard Michael complaining about Trannies 2 so much so that I wanted to punch a baby but you don't see me complaining now do you?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:29am
Did you see Trannies 2? Did you like it? I think we're talking about a far different case in point altogether.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Michaels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2010 at 8:41am

Well, gee, these are the Razzie forums, in which we talk about bad movies that are deserving to "win" our Razzie awards. "Trannies 2" was a bad movie that was all over the Razzie voting ballot and will also probably be announced more than once come tomorrow when the final nods are released. So, if this forum is about mocking bad movies, and "Trannies 2" is a bad movie, why can't I talk about it?

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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Did you see Trannies 2? Did you like it? I think we're talking about a far different case in point altogether.

No, it's actually the same case. Even though I liked or disliked the movie doesn't matter because it's still annoying but like I said earlier, I'm not complaining.
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Originally posted by Michaels

Well, gee, these are the Razzie forums, in which we talk about bad movies that are deserving to "win" our Razzie awards. "Trannies 2" was a bad movie that was all over the Razzie voting ballot and will also probably be announced more than once come tomorrow when the final nods are released. So, if this forum is about mocking bad movies, and "Trannies 2" is a bad movie, why can't I talk about it?


Did I ever say you couldn't talk about it?
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Did I ever say you couldn't talk about it?
No. But considering "Trannies 2" is a bad movie and is considered a front-runner for Worst Picture, in the awards that these forums are devoted to, then I have the right to mention it as the worst movie of 2009 all I want.
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I actually rewatched the film and have now rewritten most of my previous review:

I would like to start off by saying I'm a fan of the FINAL DESTINATION series. Even the much maligned third film is starting to grow on me. When it was announced that David Ellis was returning to the director chair (along with screenwriter Eric Bress), I was quite excited, considering that part two is arguably the best in the series. But this one. If I were to describe this film in one word, I would say DISAPPOINTING. In fact, this is one of the most disappointing movies of this year! The fact that the makers of part two has returned just adds on to the frustration.

The film starts off pretty rushed. In fact, the film is rushed altogether. You feel as if the filmmakers wanted to get through with the film. The laziness is so apparent in here that you're wondering how much the executives offered in their salary. The film is so lazy that there are even glaring plot holes in the hackneyed script! How the hell does a film that is based on something ridiculous have plot holes? The film—better yet, the franchise, spends most of its time in setting up rules on the order people are going to die yet this film ignores practically everything and kills people in any order it feels like!

Even the clever foreshadowing from the previous films is quite blatant here. The laziness is also extended to the death scenes. Remember, quality, not quantity. Even though this film has the most death scenes compared to the previous entries, most of them suck and even that word wouldn't give the deaths that much justice. We all have to admit it sooner or later but we see these films for the death scenes. What is the freaking point in watching this film if they turn out to be lazy to an extent that some death scenes are rehashed from previous FD films? Exactly. There is no point.

Another problem about the death scenes is that there is barely any suspense when people are about to get killed. Usually, in the FD films, seeing the set up of the Rube Goldberg-like death scenes IS the suspense, but in here, they feel as if they come out of nowhere because of how rushed everything is. They're surprising, yes, but the surprises wear off very quickly. Google up Alfred Hitchcock's definition of "suspense" to learn the difference between surprise and suspense.

Let's move on to the next problem: CGI. With the 3D technology, it's obvious the filmmakers wanted to add more CGI effects so the images could pop out on the screen. The problem here is that the FINAL DESTINATION series is always known for their practical effects. The premonition sequence in here works well in 3D, sure, but the CGI is terrible! They look so fake that I questioned how this film wasn't released direct to DVD.

You know you have a bad film when a franchise that was supposed to be scary and mysterious now turns into something that pokes fun of itself. It has happened many times before, most notably, the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET franchise. It's as if the filmmakers were aware that the franchise is dying and that their last attempt was to add self-aware characters and idiotic, dumb lines in the film with the many problems the film already has.

Even the characters are more like an excuse to kill them off later. It's apparent that this isn't a movie but more of a carnival ride, waiting to see who dies and how they will die. That's how low this film has gone. You'd also be surprised to find out that the most fleshed out character is, in fact, not the protagonist, but a supporting character, played by Mykelti Williamson. He gives a laughable and forced performance but that's nothing compared to Bobby Campo, who is easily the worst premonitionist in the franchise. He can't act to save his life. And the less we say about the others, the better. However, I'm willing to admit the only character I did feel sympathy for was played by Krista Allen, who plays a motherly role with an extremely short running time.

However, there are other few things that I liked about the film (emphasis on the word "few"): There's a sequence in a salon and a car wash that have at least SOME suspense. I don't know if this counts but I also liked the opening credits, which I thought was ingenious, a montage of the previous films' memorable death scenes. And that's about it. Three things. What an accomplishment!

I guess it isn't hard to tell but this is, by far, the weakest in the series because there's nothing new. You'd expect that a mythology so easily expandable would be explored here but no. By the end of the film, you feel underwhelmed. You wished they could have done better. In fact, you KNOW they could have done better. If they were to make a fifth film, they better put some thought into it. If you're thinking about watching this movie only ONCE, you should see it in its intended format in 3D AND in theaters, but I don't see why anyone should waste their money on this film. 3/10
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2010 at 5:43pm

Holy s***!!! Are my eyes playing tricks on me?! MWG gave a movie a score lower than a 6!!! Can it be? Is there hope for him yet? Hopefully, this will become common place. Wishful thinking, I know.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2010 at 8:45pm
Well, I actually gave this film a 5/10. I rewatched the film, hoping it would be better, but nope. I hated it a lot more this time -- It's trash! 
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I'm just glad you've realized that not every movie is great, nor is every movie worth defending --Sometimes, movies are just plain BAD.
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Spoilers ahead!

It's so easy to tell that this entire production was lazy and rushed. The characters are uninteresting, and the actors aren't awful, just bad(Bobby Campo is just copying Devon Sawa). The deaths are as shocking as always, but predictable, non-scary and barely cringe-worthy. The effects may be made for 3-D, but they're still fake looking. 
 
By having actual premonitions throughout the movie, this doesn't even feel like a FINAL DESTINATION film. By having another big and wise black guy as the side-kick, it feels like they're too desperate on to make it seem like the first one. Having everybody die at the end, instead of letting it remain ambigous, was OK when this was still the last one, but now they're making a 5th one. 

Let's just hope the crew for the new one is the same crew from FD I & III, rather than the crew from FD II & IV. 
 
This are my ratings for the saga:
I:7/10
II:1/10
III:5/10
IV:3/10
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