QuoteReplyTopic: FORUM Discussion of ATLAS SHRUGGED: PART ONE Posted: April 29 2011 at 6:18am
I completely disagree. I am a voting Razzie-member living in Europe and will probably not find a copy of this movie in time for voting. Of all the categories, I at least hope that the titles on the Worst Picture-shortlist will be widely available...
Originally posted by saturnwatcher
So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture.
I guess it all depends on whether Razzie voters get around to actually seeing this movie.
Originally posted by saturnwatcher
So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture. Some of the cast might also receive consideration. What about other possibilities?
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture. Some of the cast might also receive consideration. What about other possibilities?
Worst Sequel, Prequel or Remake? It is a prequel after a fashion, since two more installments were originally planned. The fact that they almost certainly won't get made could be viewed as splitting hairs. I could also make a case for this as worst remake. As noted above, The Fountainhead was made into a movie back in the 40's. Granted, this isn't a direct remake, but since Rand's career was built upon rewriting the same book several times anyway, one could reasonably argue that it is effectively the same movie also.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
I take issue with one point: I think L. Ron Hubbard knew he was a charlatan. Ayn Rand actually believed the nonsense she espoused. So there is a difference...I can sort of forgive someone who just believes something stupid. I don't have nearly as much tolerance for someone who sells nutty ideas knowing full well that they are nutty ideas...
Originally posted by Michaels
Originally posted by Vits
So...it's like L. Ron Hubbard all over again?
Kind in mind, Hubbard's work was more like long-winded companion pieces to his crazy, made up religion. Hubbard's own son has admitted that Hubbard would claim that the real money isn't in writing books, it's in creating and running your own religion.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
There's a story that when The Fountainhead was being turned into a movie, Rand flew into a fit when she learned the film-makers planned to abridge the six-minute speech. Also, Ayn's forward to Atlas Shrugged states that she's the only author in history to write about a new idea. As you can all tell, Ayn had a massive ego. Also, she idolized a child killer and based several of her characters on him.
Ayn Rand pretty much lived her life (and wrote her books) based on the credo that one should never say in one sentence what can be stretched out to 50 or 60 pages. One can understand why all those tedious books from the Victorian era (that English teachers love) are so long and tedious -- the authors got paid by the word, and their works were serialized originally in the contemporary publications. Ayn Rand, on the other hand, was just a long-winded blowhard who really didn't have anything relevant, or even logical to say. But that didn't stop her from taking 1200 pages per book to spew her nonsense...
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Keep in mind, Hubbard's work was more like long-winded companion pieces to his crazy, made up religion. Hubbard's own son has admitted that Hubbard would claim that the real money isn't in writing books, it's in creating (and running) your own religion!
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
A lot of people seem to think Rand was some sort of genius. I personally don't understand the notion. Atlas Shrugged was written back in 1957, and there has long been an interest in making into a movie. This particular version was rushed into theaters because the people who currently own the rights were about to lose them. Back in 1949, Rand's equally looney novel The Fountainhead was made into a movie, and it was also absolutely dreadful.
But I have doubts that two dreadful adaptations are going to stop someone else from trying again.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
This just in -- rotten reviews and plummeting box office have apparently convinced the millionaire who backed ATLAS SHRUGGED: PART I to shrug off the idea of bothering to make the promised 2nd and 3rd installments.
Produced at a cost of some $20 million, PART I has to date grossed just over $3 million (LINK), suffered a second weekend drop-off of about 47% (despite increasing its total screens by over 40%) and got one of 2011's worst critical drubbings, with over 90% negative reviews at RT (LINK).
For additional info, here's a LINK to an L.A. Times item on the situation...
This doesn't sound like a good book. Is that the trend now? Hollywood has already adapted every best seller in the world, so now it's going after just any book?
Ayn Rand pretty much lived her life (and wrote her books) based on the credo that one should never say in one sentence what can be stretched out to 50 or 60 pages. One can understand why all those tedious books from the Victorian era (that English teachers love) are so long and tedious -- the authors got paid by the word, and their works were serialized originally in the contemporary publications. Ayn Rand, on the other hand, was just a long-winded blowhard who really didn't have anything relevant, or even logical to say. But that didn't stop her from taking 1200 pages per book to spew her nonsense...
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
No wonder this movie was so bad -- the book was so poorly written! 90 pages? What ever happened to editing? I wonder if the book's author failed every English and creative writing class that she took?
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
Yep...and a less long-winded gas bag probably could have made the same point in one short paragraph. Then again, the whole book can be summed up in one (utterly ridiculous) sentence: "Some people are just so much better than everyone else that the rules that govern society shouldn't apply to them." The problem is that the people who think they are part of that elite are actually just idiots.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
Part of me wants there to be a sequel, because I'm interested in how they'll handle Galt's speech. For those who are lucky enough to not have read "Atlas Shrugged," John Galt gives a speech that goes on for 90 pages!
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