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    Posted: October 26 2008 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Best of wishes to you when you walk out your door tomorrow morning to find a large and very upset group of teenage girls awaiting outside, who aren't there coveting hugs and kisses. THAT is one group of people I'd personally be loathe to piss off. (There is an old addage the the REAL reason that men don't allow women in combat, especially young ones, is the realization that they are simply too vicious to play by the rules.)  Incidentally, I also think you are putting words into Head Razz's mouth here...

But let's bring this discussion to a rational perspective. Most of us here aren't fans of this license, but clearly, it has a pretty large audience. The critics weren't even particularly  harsh on this film, so let's let it be. There are going to be more of them, and sooner or later, the license is going to deteriorate to something truly worthy of our attention by pure force of inertia...but not this time.

Mind you, this group of teenage girl movie goers are also the reason "Titanic" is the #1 box office movie of all time. Whether you like HSM or not, the movie has gotten mainly good reviews, so like "W", while it was considered here as a contender, in the end it most likely wouldn't get a nod or "win" anything. Oh well, the "Saw" series will no doubt keep going; the torture may never end!
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Look at the movie reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.  The critics there can't take a hint.  I mean 67%!?  This and their reviews for several movies that didn't deserve to get panned place Rotten Tomatoes as one of the three most corrupt movie critic websites in the world.  The other two are Metacritic basically for the same reason as RT, and Movie Preview Critic that believes in a nonexistent "Moviepocalypse" (I would also call you guys corrupt, but you're considered an organization and not just a website).
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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

(I would also call you guys corrupt, but you're considered an organization and not just a website).

Yeah, we're a pretty bad crowd. John Lasseter pays me in blow to come here and slam on other people's movies.

'Cause that's how much sway I have in this industry.
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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Look at the movie reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.  The critics there can't take a hint.  I mean 67%!?  This and their reviews for several movies that didn't deserve to get panned place Rotten Tomatoes as one of the three most corrupt movie critic websites in the world. .

Miguel, you REALLY need to get over yourself. Rotten Tomatoes simply collects the reviews presented by critics and published in a variety of newspapers and magazines all over the country. Most of them are written and published almost simultaneously. When 67% of them offer similar opinions, it might just be worth considering that THEY aren't the ones having trouble taking a hint.

I'm not going to tell you that I am particularly a fan of this movie or series, but evidently, it really isn't bad enough for any further consideration by us. Deal with it and move on.
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I will say that it's probably not worth nominating for Worst Picture, but nominating it for Worst Sequel will give The X-Files 2, Rambo 4, The Mummy 3, and The Clone Wars some serious competition.
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I agree with MiguelAntilsu, its not exactly the best film (in my view), but i'm not sure if it can be rated as the worst picture, there has got to be worse.
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Originally posted by markk

I agree with MiguelAntilsu, its not exactly the best film (in my view), but i'm not sure if it can be rated as the worst picture, there has got to be worse.

In that case, you agree with my position rather than that of Miquel who seems to regard this film as a crime against humanity.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Originally posted by markk

I agree with MiguelAntilsu, its not exactly the best film (in my view), but i'm not sure if it can be rated as the worst picture, there has got to be worse.

In that case, you agree with my position rather than that of Miquel who seems to regard this film as a crime against humanity.

I didn't say that.
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It's not a crime against humanity, I wouldn't go that far -- I'm just saying that it is personally not a film that I would choose to watch.  But is by no means the worst film ever made. 
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Originally posted by markk

It's not a crime against humanity, I wouldn't go that far -- I'm just saying that it is personally not a film that I would choose to watch.  But is by no means the worst film ever made. 

My point precisely. And while Miquel did not refer to the film as a crime against humanity, nor did I directly state that he did, he attempted to place it among the worst of the decade (yes, Miguel, you did say THAT) and if one overstates their case that magnificently, responses in kind are inbounds.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

 My point precisely. And while Miquel did not refer to the film as a crime against humanity, nor did I directly state that he did, he attempted to place it among the worst of the decade (yes, Miguel, you did say THAT) and if one overstates their case that magnificently, responses in kind are inbounds.

Although I don't like this HSM series, I wouldn't call it a crime against humanity, so much it getting the "powerhouse of annoyance" award. The dishonor of "crime against humanity" goes to "Postal" and/or "Disaster Movie". 
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For Your Consideration:

Worst Actor in a Leading Role: Zack Efron (High School Musical 3 : Senior Year)
Worst Actor in a Supporting Role: Lucas Grabeel (High School Musical 3 : Senior Year)
FYC:
Worst Movie: The Bounty Hunter
Worst Actor: Johnny Depp (Alice in Wonderland / The Tourist)
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I think if many people had their way, this flick would have nods in every catagory. 
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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Originally posted by Michaels

I think if many people had their way, this flick would have nods in every catagory. 

I think the teens generally outnumber the adults.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

I think the teens generally outnumber the adults.

Not as Razzie voters.
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Why are you guys beign so harsh about this film? I have never seen nor do I plan on it but I like the fact that my sister has movies/music/tv shows made FOR her. Disney is far from being "Evil" they are incredibly smart buisness people and are actually doing good. These kids are watching shows and movies with good role models. Kids who are polite, smart, and are take pride in their apperance (and are not white suburban kids dressed up as gangsters). It may make us sick, but we have Superbad that shows us what high shcool is really like, and young kids have High School Musical. Not sure about you guys but I would rather my nine year old  sister turning out like "Gabriella" then any of the girls in Superbad.  And I saw Hairspray with my girlfriend and Zac Efron was actually pretty good in it (just thought I would throw that out here)

HeadRazz what do you think about that?
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