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    Posted: August 02 2008 at 3:51am

OKAY, WE GET IT! HOLLYWOOD JUST ISN'T INTO DOING ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY ORIGINAL ANYMORE. BUT THIS WHOLE "LET'S REMAKE EVERY ASIAN HORROR MOVIE from the LAST DECADE" BUSINESS HAS GOT to STOP!

THE 347th ONE of THEM THIS YEAR, MIRRORS STARS KIEFER SUTHERLAND in a TALE CURIOUSLY REMINISCENT of NOT JUST the 2003 FILM IT REMAKES/RIPS-OFF, BUT ALSO of a 1961 EPISODE of BORIS KARLOFF's "CHILLER" TV SERIES (FEATURING a YOUNG, BARELY OVER-ACTING WILLIAM SHATNER) ENTITLED "THE HUNGRY GLASS." 

BUT WILL IT ACTUALLY BE SCARY...TO SOMEONE OTHER THAN ITS INVESTORS??  HERE's THE PART WHERE WE ASK YOU, OUR FORUM MEMBERS, to...REFLECT. 


The Most Terrifying Sequence in the Film: Drowning...

In the World's Biggest (and Messiest) Root Beer Float!  


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I saw the Sundance Channel On Demand has a sub catagory just for Asian horror films. As I flipped through the titles, all I could of was "in a year or two, all of these are going be to made into crappy American remakes".

Here's what you do, Hollywood, you buy the rights to the movies and you English dub them! It's a helluva lot cheaper and the movie is not dragged through the mud. 

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Uh, oh. Huge spoilers on that pic (good thing I already knew about it). Anyway, don't automatically assume this is just another Asian remake. It's not. The director who directed this also did "High Tension" and "The Hills Have Eyes." Depending if you like those films or not, some people are calling him the savior of horror movies. Anyway, I hated High Tension and Hills Have Eyes but this one does look very good. Ever since that pic above and the R rated trailer, I'm totally excited for this movie.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Anyway, don't automatically assume this is just another Asian remake. It's not.
YES IT IS.

It has Aja directing, so I guess that means along with being woefully derivative, the film will use violence and gore in lieu of suspense and atmosphere.
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Like I said before, the director stated himself that it is not a remake. When a director says so, I guess it's pretty true. People just automatically assume it's a remake because there's a foreign version of the similar plot out there.

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: So you're so naive that if the director sez something, you just believe him??  Bet you believed all that malarky about WMDs in Iraq as well...   

On this specific film, I'll concede that it may not be a literal remake -- But if it's borrowing the plot and other elements from a pre-existant film, then it's a RIP-OFF -- meaning it would still qualify for our Worst Remake/Rip-Off category... 

 

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[QUOTE=moviewizguy] When a director says so, I guess it's pretty true.[QUOTE]

Then I guess Uwe Boll is an effing genius -- because he's a director, and he said so. . . .

 

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Originally posted by cvcjr13

Then I guess Uwe Boll is an effing genius, because he's a director and he said so. . . .

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Like I said before, the director stated himself that it is not a remake. When a director says so, I guess it's pretty true. People just automatically assume it's a remake because there's a foreign version of the similar plot out there.

You're so naive. You don't know who this director is? If you read any of his interviews for this film, you would know why I believe him so much. And stop bringin Uwe Boll into this. That was obviously not my point.

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As much as I love taking cheap shots at Boll, I know he has nothing to do with this. But it is a rip-off no matter if it's a 100% remake or just borrowing elements from another movie. America just can't make a good horror movie any more, no matter if it's "original" or a remake. The last good horror movie I saw was "The Descent", but that was a British movie. Then American studios tried to copy it with "The Cave", and that movie sucked big time.
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Originally posted by Michaels

The last good horror movie I saw was "The Descent", but that was a British movie. Then American studios tried to copy it with "The Cave", and that movie sucked big time.
Because of "The Cave", "The Descent" was pushed back a year. Also, the last good horror movie I saw was "The Orphanage".
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I haven't completely given up American horror films, but the only ones in the last decade that I've enjoyed have not been big releases. I haven't done as much hunting for the rare gems as I used to in recent years, but I remember coming across movies like this one. It's not something a lot of people have seen (I don't even know if it got a theatrical run or not), but it's easily one of the best American horror films in the last five years.

However, in looking for a decent horror flick in the that low-budget market, one will likely end up slogging a lot of really awful films. It's too bad that formula so frequently accompanies the bigger budget projects. Horror movies have suffered probably more than any other genre when it comes to that kind of shameless recycling.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2008 at 4:06pm

Originally posted by Michaels

As much as I love taking cheap shots at Boll, I know he has nothing to do with this. But it is a rip-off no matter if it's a 100% remake or just borrowing elements from another movie. America just can't make a good horror movie any more, no matter if it's "original" or a remake. The last good horror movie I saw was "The Descent", but that was a British movie. Then American studios tried to copy it with "The Cave", and that movie sucked big time.

The director is French...but yeah, idk if you guys would count a foreign director as a reason to call it a French movie.

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Originally posted by moat

I haven't completely given up American horror films, but the only ones in the last decade that I've enjoyed have not been big releases. I haven't done as much hunting for the rare gems as I used to in recent years, but I remember coming across movies like this one. It's not something a lot of people have seen (I don't even know if it got a theatrical run or not), but it's easily one of the best American horror films in the last five years.

However, in looking for a decent horror flick in the that low-budget market, one will likely end up slogging a lot of really awful films. It's too bad that formula so frequently accompanies the bigger budget projects. Horror movies have suffered probably more than any other genre when it comes to that kind of shameless recycling.

The most recent horror film I thought was scary was http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038988/. Although I like almost every film I see, trust me when I say this: This has got to be one of the best and scariest horror films ever made! Don't worry. This movie is from Spain. It's getting to be known by more people because an American remake is coming out this year (mostly shot-for-shot with some newly added scenes, including an alt. ending) called "Quarantine." (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1082868/) Rec isn't out on DVD yet but there are sites and torrents out there to see it. I think it's going to come out on DVD when Quarantine comes out.

Another horror movie people seem to like is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465203/. Again, people thought "The Strangers" was a remake of this movie but The Strangers was written in 2004 so it couldn't be. Anyway, I didn't like the film as much but a lot of other people did. It's also a French movie.

Also, on other boards, I mentioned "The Mist." I loved that film to death. Anyway, these are a few great horror films you can watch, if you're not too impressed with horror movies these days.

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If there is any reason at all why this movie will do well, it will be because of
Kiefer Sutherland is in it.
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I used to be a huge horror movie fan, willing to forgive even the mediocre efforts. As I've gotten older and mellowed, however, I've become less forgiving.

The last good american horror movie I can remember was the first Nightmare on Elm Street. Maybe it's just a dearth of talent in the director's pool, Shyamalan's "looks like a horror movie but isn't" eviscerating the genre, and Roger Carpenter's fall from grace dating back to Ghosts of Mars

I don't count the bulk of the teenie slasher films, excluding NoES and  Halloween, as being worthy of consideration.

Perhaps it's because as we americans are living in a real world horror show that is our current administration, Hollywood (mistakenly) perceives that we've lost our taste for a good horror flick . . . .

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See, what I liked about "The Descent" was it played on things that people are usually afraid of: the dark, close corners, and the unknown. These things are more scary to people than the thought of supernatural serial killers like Freddy, Jason, any American-ized J-horror movie, etc. Hollywood seems to think the more bloody a movie is, the scarier it is. Not true. Example: torture porn movies. They are just gross. Plus, add on to the fact no one really cares about horror movies until Halloween anyway. Hollywood needs to fall back on what scares America, and it's certainly not buckets of blood.
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even the previews for this movie looked like i bust...one reason why i maybe
o to the movies twice a year now...lol
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