QuoteReplyTopic: Is Alba Worst ACTRESS or SUPPORTING?!?!?! Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:04am
I guess for once I am going to actually have to side with moviewizguy...sort of. My opinions of Jessica Biel's past performances are mixed; I've liked her in some things, and not cared for her in others. But in my opinion, she is Razzie proof simply as a humanitarian.
Here in Colorado, we have a wildlife rescue sanctuary that provides a home for bears, tigers and other big cats, mostly from environments where they were raised as pets then abandoned, or otherwise abused. (Some of you may have seen it on Animal Planet, featured in an episode of their marvelous "Growing Up" series. Eddie the Black Panther was highlighted in the episode, "Growing up Black Panter) About a year ago, it was facing a very severe financial crisis, and was on the verge of closing. The proprietors were feverishly looking for homes for all the sanctuaries animals. Then in stepped Jessica Biel, along with a few other local contributors, and put the sanctuary on solid financial footing more or less indefinitely. A big salute and thank you to her. Frankly, she'll never have to fear a Razzie vote from me.
OK, I saw this movie with a group of guys without seeing the first one. I didn't really like this movie. I was literally falling asleep in my chair (maybe partly cause it was 2 in the morning). So I gotta know, is this worse or better than the first one?
Response from Head RAZZberry: The first FANTASTIC FOUR was actually kinda clunky but was, other than Alba's RAZZIE nominated performance, actually an "okay" movie. This second one, which exists solely because the first one made a profit, tip-toes right up to the line of being a strong RAZZIE contender, but (other than, as last time, Alba's incompetent, robotic performance) doesn't quite cross it...
Well, let's hear it for the Silver Divine One, who possesses the power to resurrect the dead and is able to obliterate gigantic planet-eating smoke clouds by flashing them! . . .
Oh, man, what happened to Galactus? Mind you, I was wondering how they were going to pull off Galactus so he didn't look like Bill O'Reilly in a purplish-red Wizard of Oz-type suit ready to pick up the earth and eat it like a pealed grapefruit. But, to be bluntly honest, that would have been a whole lot better that All Smoke And No Fire. The image certainly didn't fire me up. Can anyone translate "All Smoke And No Fire" into a Native American language? Whatever you come up with, that's what this so-called Galactus should really be called.
Too bad there isn't a Razzie category for worst special effects. We'd have three contenders this year: Blood and Chocolate for its boring werewolf transformations, Epic Movie for any scene with the beaver and Silver Surfer Gets a Rise out of the Fantastic Four for its despic. . . er. . . depiction of Galactus.
AND WHAT DOES JESSICA ALL-BLAH THINKS SHE'S DOING? ACTING? I can finally see why so many thought Keira Knightley did such a great job with Elizabeth Swann--they were contrasting her to Alba! If they ever, ever do another sequel, it would benefit all involved if Alba gets this character down. Susan Storm is an independent, intelligent woman and SHE IS A LEADER, second in command to Reed Richards. Mind you, the lines and the roles she plays run counter to Susan Storm's character, but Alba still needs to be Susan Storm, not this emotionally weak woman who happens to wield a tremendous power.
It is disappointing that Galactus does not curse the Silver Surfer to an existence on earth, like he did in the comic book. It is incredulous that the Silver Surfer destroyed Galactus. And it is just plain wrong that Silver Surfer raised the dead. He can manipulate matter, he can heal, but HE CAN'T RAISE THE DEAD.
Despite all that, I enjoyed Ioan Gruffud's acting, was amazed by the stunt with the helicopter and the wedding chairs, felt the Silver Surfer appeared to be realistic and found the way-too-full-of-himself Johnny Storm to be as enjoyable as ever. This is a popcorn movie. It didn't move me. It didn't bore me. I'm glad I saw it. It entertained me.
Razzie nom for Jessica Alba as worst actress. HeadRAZZBerry, if you put her up for both worst actress and worst supporting actress, you could have on your hands someone "winning" both awards for the same role, so a decision may need to be made. I'd certainly be tempted to vote for both parts, if it weren't for Epic Movie. That movie is still the worst on my list.
Response from Head RAZZberry: Not to worry -- My thinking is that for this role, Alba deserves to be listed in our Supporting Actress category. For one (or more?) of her other starring roles due out later this year, she might also be listed as Worst Actress, thus potentially garnering dual nominations for a single year's bad work...
Your suggested scenario for Alba reminds me of my all-time favorite RAZZIE two-fer: In 1991 the ever-reliably-rotten Sean Young played twin sisters in a remake of A KISS BEFORE DYING. As the sister who is murdered in the film's first five minutes, we nominated Young as Worst Supporting Actress. As the surviving sister who spends the film trying to solve her twin's murder, we also nominated Young as Worst Actress. When the final votes were tallied, Young took both awards -- A doubly insulting RAZZIE Double Header, and a feat unlikely to be repeated any time soon...
Great. Head Razz, since you liked the first FF, have you have a chance to see this sequel?
Response from Head RAZZberry: I actually saw SILVER SURFER the night it opened at my local Cineplex. It was neither spectacularly bad nor spectacularly good -- More of a gutterball of a movie, doing little or no damage, but also having little or no impact, and leaving almost no trace on the mind within hours of seeing it. The special FX were so-so (except the giant planet-eating-cloud near the end, which looked surprisingly like something out of Mel Brooks' SPACEBALLS) and the acting was generally acceptable, competent and ho-hum. Only Jessica Alba, with her skeletal-thin body, severely bee-stung-looking lips and lame line deliveries, really stood out to me. And, despite her getting high-placed billing, I might still argue that, due to her only being on-screen for a total of maybe 25 minutes, this may qualify as a Supporting rather than a Leading performance...
HeadRAZZ, I'd really like your opinion on this post, because I believe that this is something the Razzies should give attention to.
Originally posted by jb razz
HeadRAZZ, this is a perfect time to bring up something I tried to bring up on another thread: The number of films that Jessica Alba is starring in this year. She has five projects (including this one) coming out this year, which basically guarantees that she will get a razzie nomination for something. They are:
FF2-already in discussion
Good Luck Chuck-This Dane Cook sex comedy will definitely get discussed here when it comes out. The trailer doesn't make it clear whether Alba is lead or supporting.
Bill-A weird looking comedy with Aaron Eckhart
Awake-A thriller starring Hayden Christensen with Alba as his wife.
The Eye-Alba has the lead role in this American remake of a Japanese thriller.
So I'd like the HeadRAZZ and all other users to give their predictions and comments about "the year of Alba" and how the year will turn out for her in terms of razzies.
Response from Head RAZZberry: We will deal with Alba's various Potential RAZZIE Contenders as they come into release. In my opinioon, she is not a "talent" of enough substance to merit an individual topic devoted solely to discussing her suckiness. We all know she sucks, and specifically discussing the subject at length (as opposed to discussing her suckiness in the context of specific films and performances) strikes me as kinda redundant...
Stan personally wanted to play Jameson in the Spider-Man films--Jonah being his stated favorite character of all those he's had a hand in creating. Since he seems to pop up for at least a few seconds in every Silver Age-related Marvel film to date, you have to wonder if he has more to do with them than the credits let on.
TRIVIA: The cameo scene where Stan Lee is refused entry to the wedding is in keeping with the comic series. In the 1960s story of Reed Richards and Susan Storm's wedding, two characters, obviously representing writer Stan Lee and artist/plotter Jack Kirby, are also not allowed to attend the wedding.
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