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    Posted: May 17 2011 at 3:49pm

Let me just start this Member-Started Discussion by saying that I've loved the original Tin Tin-comics ever since I've been a child. Perhaps it's a cultural thing because while American children grew up with comics like those of Batman and Spider-man, I grew up with Belgian comics like Tin Tin, Asterix, Lucky Luke and Suske & Wiske. It therefor pains me to start a forum like this on the site.

But let's be honest, Motion Capture Animation-Movies have been receiving cold reactions from audiences ever since they were first introduced to the big screen (mainly to blame on the Uncanny Valley off course). I mean the last Mo-Cap Animation film to hit theaters, Mars Needs Moms, is according to wikipedia currently the biggest animated Box Office Bomb ever (surpassing that other Uncanny Valley-movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within). (link)

Then we come to The Adventures of Tin Tin: The Secret of the Unicorn. To be fair, until recently i still had hope in this project (with the creative forces of Steven Spielberg, Peter Jackson and Edgar Wright behind it). But then i saw the trailer, a think that i noticed while watching the trailer is that they never really show any of the faces (except for Tin Tin's) as if they were aware that this may scare away audiences. When you finally see the face of Tin Tin in the final few seconds of the trailer, it just somehow feels completely wrong. I fear that audiences will avoid this movie and it might have a hard time getting it's $350 million Dollar budget back. To end on a positive note, I think a lot of the artwork and scenery looks amazing.

So here's my question (as asked in the title): Is Mo-Cap Animation Box Office Poison?!?
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Well, for me, Tintin's face seems better than I thought it was going to be.


Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are much more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.
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Not really.I think that when they discovered how cool Mo-Cap was,they focused more on that than on the script.Therefor,most Mo-Cap movies aren't good,and when a movie isn't good,[blank] times is also a box office flop.
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Dispite my hatred for mo-crap, the pedigree behind the camera had made this the movie I want to see most this year.
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Posts: 977 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Vheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2011 at 7:10pm

oiram, maybe i have more problems with it because i grew up with the comics (and I therefor compare it with comic book-character).

Vits, I think you underestimate how people react to the way something looks and Mo-Cap Animation-films have (so far) all looked terrible. (Tintin maybe being the exception)

Schumacherh8ter, Don't get me wrong. Good reviews or bad reviews, I am still going to see it.
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In the hands of Spielberg and Jackson, it might be done right. In the hands of someone else, not so much!
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Ok, to clear things up. I am not saying anything about quality her, people.  I think it will probably receive very positive reviews. I am only worried that a lot of people might avoid this movie because of the Motion Capture Animation which might make it (saidly enough) a box-office bomb...

Cinema attendance is something that's completely different from quality....
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Posts: 4803 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2011 at 12:33pm
Originally posted by Vheid

Vits, I think you underestimate how people react to the way something looks and Mo-Cap Animation-films have (so far) all looked terrible. (Tintin maybe being the exception)
The "looks" depends on the film.But I was talkin'bout the novelty of the new technology.
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The new technology is pretty good, but the film is not so good.
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Posts: 977 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Vheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 8:54am
So a new Tintin-trailer has come out, and it looks really good

Things I liked:
1) The animation!!! Everything seems to look perfectly from the locations to the objects (like the ship and the car) to (most of) the characters.
2) Seeing the comic-books be brought to live on such a big scale and recognising a lot of it on screen
3) Seeing Spielberg do an adventure film again (in the style of Raiders)

Things that bodered me:
1) Tintin's face.... I can't help it, but it just doesn't look anything like the comic book character...
2) It seems to have a lot more puns than the comics...
3) They seem to have included the meeting between Tintin and Captain Hadock which was in the The Crab with the Golden Claws into the existing The Secret of the Unicorn/Red Rackham's Treasure-storyline... I am afraid this might make the film a bit heavy on story...
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Even though it may get good reviews, 'The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn' won't get a Best Animated Feature Oscar nomination (which people think it will) because the Academy recently stated that Mo-Cap by itself is NOT animation...
You see in this filmmaking world there's two types of people my friend. Those with the knowledge of film and those who think they do but really don't.
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What about MONSTER HOUSE?
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I think that the mo-cap rule was created in mid-2007, way after Monster House got its nod.
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I am pretty sure that the "no mo-cap" rule was introduced this year....
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I also had an idea, but I guess the timing was wrong. Too disappointing!
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