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    Posted: March 18 2009 at 1:33pm
Yes... Rip-offs. Exactly. Now THOOOOSE are definite problems... The core of the RRA problem. (Remake/Ripoff/Adapt, for those who haven't picked up on my clever acronym yet... It's the next "Google it" I tells ya!)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CriticalFrank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2009 at 12:21am

I can agree that blatant Ripoffs do not have a place in movies. Remakes and adaptations I have very little problem with, as long as they are done with at least some reverence to the source material.

When the remake or adaptation has absolutely no respect for the source material, it leans more towards rip-off...

 

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The original was dated and a sh*tty movie to begin with. This is a well acted, well directed movie. I agree with remakes only if...

 

1. The film is dated and/or sucked. Halloween was unessesary despite the fact it was old it was not dated. Hills Have Eyes and Last House were both dated and cheap. And the remakes were better. And horror foregin language films I dont mind because most of the films NO ONE has heard of. All they take is the story of it, why do people care so much? But I hear they are reamking 'The Orphanage' which I am not happy about because 'The Orphanage' was actually a pretty biug filma dn is mainstream. So its kind of weird.

2. Fix the mistakes the original had. If you are going to remake a film, you should try and fix the things that didn;t work and keeop the things that did. Thats what this film did. The original was horribly acted and cheap, and it was just a distgusting movie. This remake was extremly well acted and althugh it was violent and disturbing it wasn't over the top where I find myself getting sick (although I did cringe).

 

All In all I am for remakes as long as its is deserving. Some  one (whose name slipps my mind) said; 'Remakes shoudl be for fims that we got wrong the first time'. I agree. And If you dont agree, well your stuborn cause I know I am right. That may make me sound stuborn but this is just one of those thigs where I am not going to argue cause I am right :P

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Post Options Post Options   Quote CriticalFrank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2009 at 11:59am
Originally posted by wolfee37

The original was dated and a sh*tty movie to begin with. This is a well acted, well directed movie. I agree with remakes only if...

All In all I am for remakes as long as its is deserving. Some  one (whose name slipps my mind) said; 'Remakes shoudl be for fims that we got wrong the first time'. I agree. And If you dont agree, well your stuborn cause I know I am right. That may make me sound stuborn but this is just one of those thigs where I am not going to argue cause I am right :P

Awesome, someone else who doesn't just write off remakes, because the idea is unoriginal. Now, I'm not saying that remakes all work out in the end... I mean, Halloween, like you mentioned just wasn't necessary, the original has held up fairly well over the last couple of decades. The Rob Zombie version in this case does come off as a blatant cash grab. However, I enjoyed this version of "Last House". Perhaps that is because I've never actually seen the original (a problem I hope to rectify soon enough) and perhaps it's because I look a bit of gore... who knows?

That's all I've got to say for now.

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Well, I say, if you MUST make remakes, then remake the worst of the worst. Remake the "Plan 9 From Outer Spaces", remake the "Manos: Hands of Fates", remake the "Trolls 2". Why? Because unlike when you remake a good, classic movie, you're doomed to fail. But if you remake the worst movies possible, you can't really go wrong because when compared to the original, the remake will be golden.
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Or remake a movie that has won a RAZZIE in the first decade, then again, it would still be a whole lot worse, and they've already done that once...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CriticalFrank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2009 at 12:23am
Originally posted by Michaels

Well, I say, if you MUST make remakes, then remake the worst of the worst. Remake the "Plan 9 From Outer Spaces", remake the "Manos: Hands of Fates", remake the "Trolls 2". Why? Because unlike when you remake a good, classic movie, you're doomed to fail. But if you remake the worst movies possible, you can't really go wrong because when compared to the original, the remake will be golden.


I bet given enough time, Hollywood could screw up a remake of Manos... You don't give them enough credit. :)
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Originally posted by CriticalFrank


I bet given enough time, Hollywood could screw up a remake of Manos... You don't give them enough credit. :)

Well, it's not like they have much to work with. Maybe they could at least explain what the hell is happening in the movie because I still have no clue what the original was really all about. All I remember is that there's this guy who living in the middle of nowhere with his servant that has goat legs and he has a bunch of dead women as his harem of wives.

"Plan 9" wasn't much better. There are aliens who wish to make contact with us, but at the same time, don't want us to discover them. WTF?! So of course, they bring our dead back to life, so they can kill us and thus stop us from blowing up the sun. Ummmm, ooookay.

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Originally posted by Michaels

Well, it's not like they have much to work with. Maybe they could at least explain what the hell is happening in the movie because I still have no clue what the original was really all about. All I remember is that there's this guy who living in the middle of nowhere with his servant that has goat legs and he has a bunch of dead women as his harem of wives.

"Plan 9" wasn't much better. There are aliens who wish to make contact with us, but at the same time, don't want us to discover them. WTF?! So of course, they bring our dead back to life, so they can kill us and thus stop us from blowing up the sun. Ummmm, ooookay.



I think your synopsis is actually better then the movies themselves. It's sad that something like that is possible.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2010 at 11:47am

We have considered many horror remakes for the Double-O-Nine RAZZIES...and besides this, I can't trace any of their source materials back to Asia or outside the United States. Even so, this film has not been suggested for the RAZZIES. I don't think it deserves any either.

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This trend of remakes making horror movies is not going to end anytime soon, so long as brain dead teens are willing to piss their money away just so they could say that saw (insert title here) in theaters, even if what they saw was vastly inferior to what the original was.
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Just saw the movie and loved it. I love the fact that this film actually went and showed the grittiness of the kills and the highly disturbing rape scene, which makes the realism all the better. Many films, not just horror, shy away from the things presented in this film so I give the movie credit for that. I also loved the performance. The actors were terrific. The only thing I didn't like is that last shot. It felt tacked on but I know why they added that. All in all, a great film with good performances. I almost teared up in some parts. Think of this as a more extreme version of Taken.I also should note that this is anything but a torture porn movie. I thought it would be one as well because of the trailer but it isn't.
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Um, just so I know for sure that my poor old eyes aren't deceiving me, MWG, did I just correctly read that you are giving a movie "credit" for presenting an evidently graphic rape scene?
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Just saw the movie and loved it. I love the fact that this film actually went and showed the grittiness of the kills and the highly disturbing rape scene, which makes the realism all the better. Many films, not just horror, shy away from the things presented in this film so I give the movie credit for that. I also loved the performance. The actors were terrific. The only thing I didn't like is that last shot. It felt tacked on but I know why they added that. All in all, a great film with good performances. I almost teared up in some parts. Think of this as a more extreme version of Taken.I also should note that this is anything but a torture porn movie. I thought it would be one as well because of the trailer but it isn't.
Wow, you are one sick f*** if you're praising a movie for having graphic violence and rape. There's a reason why most movies shy away from such things, it's called ... what is it? Oh yeah, having good taste ... rather than being morbid just to shock people.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2010 at 6:32pm
Ok..evidently I did read it correctlyLOL
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Um, just so I know for sure that my poor old eyes aren't deceiving me, MWG, did I just correctly read that you are giving a movie "credit" for presenting an evidently graphic rape scene?

Yes, I did and did you read my reasoning as well or did you just stop right after the moment you read it? I'm sure the original movie stirred controversy as well with the issue of raping a teenage girl. Let me reiterate: It's good to see that this film shows the "reality," if you will. It's unflinching, unapologetic, and painfully realistic, which adds to the justification of what happens in this film. That's the scene where I get teary-eyed. It almost made me cried and it left me disturbed. I'm crediting that the film didn't take "the easy way out" like fading out too early. If you've seen Haneke's Cache, there's this scene where a man slashes his throat, blood spraying through the white walls, yet, the camera stays with the man, dying on the floor, bleeding to his death, while many films would have faded out after he slashed his throat. However, Haneke let the camera linger over what seems like years of the man just lying on the floor.
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