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    Posted: April 03 2009 at 9:18am

Funny, seeing how that's exactly the first Fast and the Furious and ironic, because I know that you enjoy films like those sometimes. Don't blame it on me. It happens to everyone. *cough*Wanted*cough* *cough*Hancock*cough* *cough*The Matrix*cough* Oh, and let's see, this film in the series turned out to be the worst. Fast and Furious 3 turned out to be the second best. That says a lot.

And, really, don't mock me. I never intended to see the film ever, like Nacho Libre, but I watched it and I liked it. If you like these types of films, you should watch it and there was hardly any CGI in the film so you can't go "OH, and the film filled with mindless, crappy CGI effects" again nor can you go, "Oh, it also has a twist ending that makes you think!" again.

Also, you can't blame the third film for anything, if it was intended to be mindless fun. Well, you can but that just makes you look dumb. You don't attack/bash a film of something it was trying to be in the first place. That's a law (well, not really). You can say, "The movie is dumb, and mindless, and have mindless car chases throughout! The plot is predictable and the characters one dimensional!" But then again...wasn't that the point? It's the same with dance movies.

Originally posted by Michaels

Originally posted by moviewizguy

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Though what I thought was surprising was that The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift didn't get a single RAZZIE nod back in 2006. I actually was shocked at that time.
Shocked? Have you seen the film?

Translation: "Shocked? Have you seen the film? It was awesome! Who cares if the dialog, plot, and characters were all lacking?! It was entertaining, and that's I care about when it comes to movies! All it needed was a twist ending that makes you "think" it would have gone straight into my top 5 movies of all time!"

 

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Originally posted by moviewizguy

I know that you enjoy films like those sometimes. Don't blame it on me.

I've seen each "F&F" movie, for free, on cable, while I was busy doing something else, and I don't remember a single thing about any of them.

Oh, and let's see, this film in the series turned out to be the worst. Fast and Furious 3 turned out to be the second best. That says a lot.

No, not really, it only says lot about your taste in movies.

Also, you can't blame the third film for anything, if it was intended to be mindless fun. Well, you can but that just makes you look dumb. You don't attack/bash a film of something it was trying to be in the first place. That's a law (well, not really). You can say, "The movie is dumb, and mindless, and have mindless car chases throughout! The plot is predictable and the characters one dimensional!" But then again...wasn't that the point?

Well, it does help make critics jobs a whole lot easier. But in that case, you can't blame us for giving this movie a Razzie nod or win since giving mindless movies "awards" for being mindless movies is what we are all about.

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Originally posted by Michaels

I've seen each "F&F" movie, for free, on cable, while I was busy doing something else, and I don't remember a single thing about any of them.

Yeah, if I've seen 12 Angry Men on tv and doing something at the same time, I don't think I'd remember a single thing about that movie. I'm sure if you watch any movie while you're paying attention to something else, you wouldn't remember the movie. I don't see your point. It's called selective attention. Look it up.

No, not really, it only says lot about your taste in movies.

See, I don't get how you want me to not go say "idiot," "retard," "dumb," and other condescending words when you, basically, want me to. It'slike you're asking for it. If you've read my previous comments, I wasn't trying to state your level of IQ, nor was I attacking you in any way so why you're attacking my tastes in movies, I don't know. It's apparant that what you're doing is (again) diverging from th topic and going on about someone's taste in movies. The purpose of people who do this is to 1) Ignore that the evidence I give out is, well...ignored and 2) you hoping people who read what I say is forgotten because you diverged from the topic, and it'll probably work, but that's not surprising.

Well, it does help make critics jobs a whole lot easier. But in that case, you can't blame us for giving this movie a Razzie nod or win since giving mindless movies "awards" for being mindless movies is what we are all about.

I could care less about what happens to this movie. Give it every Razzie nominations. I won't be crying.

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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Yeah, if I've seen 12 Angry Men on tv and doing something at the same time, I don't think I'd remember a single thing about that movie. I'm sure if you watch any movie while you're paying attention to something else, you wouldn't remember the movie. I don't see your point. It's called selective attention. Look it up.

Too bad, since "12 Angry Men" is considered one of the greats and is among one of my favorites, but seeing as it all "boring" talking, I can understand why you wouldn't care to remember it or any of its messages about racism, fatherhood, or the justice system.

See, I don't get how you want me to not go say "idiot," "retard," "dumb," and other condescending words when you, basically, want me to. It's like you're asking for it. If you've read my previous comments, I wasn't trying to state your level of IQ, nor was I attacking you in any way so why you're attacking my tastes in movies, I don't know. It's apparant that what you're doing is (again) diverging from the topic and going on about someone's taste in movies. The purpose of people who do this is to 1) Ignore that the evidence I give out is, well...ignored and 2) you hoping people who read what I say is forgotten because you diverged from the topic, and it'll probably work, but that's not surprising.

I'm the one asking for it? I'm not the one defending bad movies in a forum that's all about bashing bad movies. You claim "Tokyo Drift" is the second best of the three, that is only your opinion, yet you state it as if it's some universal fact that we were not aware of. THAT is why we question your tastes. Like HeadRazz said, are there even 12 movies out there that you don't like. We know "Watchmen" was one, now we just need 11 more.

I could care less about what happens to this movie. Give it every Razzie nominations. I won't be crying.

Good, we're glad to have your approval. 

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Originally posted by Michaels

You claim "Tokyo Drift" is the second best of the three, that is only your opinion, yet you state it as if it's some universal fact that we were not aware of.



You know, considering that there are only three movies in the series, it might be the second best, since it only has to best one of the other two... Now that a fourth has come out, who knows where it might fall...

And as far as 12 Angry Men goes, that is a great movie, and made a great stage production, too. I saw it when it was touring with George Wendt, very good play, great movie. Probably one of my favorite older movies.
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I can't wait for the version of "12 Angry Men" where they're all played by Eddie Murphy in varios fat suits.
I hate to keep plugging the guy, because I really sound like a shill, but I respect his opinion... Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that you should watch this review by moviepreviewcritic that he made as an April Fool's joke about this movie. I don't mean to ruin the surpise, as apparently some people were surprised that it was sarcasm, but it's a pretty funny review of F&F.
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

I can't wait for the version of "12 Angry Men" where they're all played by Eddie Murphy in various fat suits.


I can't stop my eyes from bleeding.... Why won't they stop bleeding? Why would you even suggest such a horror? Whhhhhhhhhhhy?
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Originally posted by Michaels

Too bad, since "12 Angry Men" is considered one of the greats and is among one of my favorites, but seeing as it all "boring" talking, I can understand why you wouldn't care to remember it or any of its messages about racism, fatherhood, or the justice system.

Are you mentally ill? Here. I'll repost what I said: Yeah, if I've seen 12 Angry Men on tv and doing something at the same time, I don't think I'd remember a single thing about that movie.

And FYI, I chose 12 Angry Men because it's on my top 5 of all time, but seeing that you can't read and are an ignorant prick, I can understand.

I'm the one asking for it? I'm not the one defending bad movies in a forum that's all about bashing bad movies. You claim "Tokyo Drift" is the second best of the three, that is only your opinion, yet you state it as if it's some universal fact that we were not aware of. THAT is why we question your tastes. Like HeadRazz said, are there even 12 movies out there that you don't like. We know "Watchmen" was one, now we just need 11 more.

I didn't "claim" anything. Here, I'll repost what I said: Oh, and let's see, this film in the series turned out to be the worst. Fast and Furious 3 turned out to be the second best. That says a lot. I based the fact that Fast and Furious 3 had the second best rating on RT in the series to be the second best in the series. If you want my opinion, which I know you won't care, I say Fast an Furious 3 was the BEST out of the series.

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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

I can't wait for the version of "12 Angry Men" where they're all played by Eddie Murphy in varios fat suits.
I hate to keep plugging the guy, because I really sound like a shill, but I respect his opinion... Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that you should watch this review by moviepreviewcritic that he made as an April Fool's joke about this movie. I don't mean to ruin the surpise, as apparently some people were surprised that it was sarcasm, but it's a pretty funny review of F&F.

The fact that you have the audacity to support Mike is quite insane. First of all, he based his opinion on the Fast and the Furious films on how well he remembered the films, while, we shouldn't forget, doing something at the same time. Once more, I'll explain this again: If you watch ANY movie while doing something concurrently, I'm 99.9% sure you wouldn't remember a single thing about the film once you've finished it. Second, he can't read. We all know that by now. Third, he's ignorant. Fourth, he ignores my evidence for each subject we argue on. Example:

Me: On, RT, you can see Fast and Furious 3 has the second best rating, which shows that it's the second best in the series.

Mike: You're an idiot. You claim that Fast and Furious 3 is the second best in the series. I don't know why you question us about mocking your tastes in movies. I saw all of the Fast and Furious films while doing something at the same time...and I don't remember a thing from them.

Me: Oh, gee, you probably didn't remember a thing because YOU DID SOMETHING AT THE SAME TIME. I'm sure IF I have done the same to 12 Angry Men that I wouldn't have remembered a single thing in it too.

Mike: Oh, you idiot. You didn't like 12 Angry Men, one of the best films ever made.

Me: Can you read? I said "IF."

Mike: Oh, retard. Can you read?

Me: Why are you repeating me?

Mike: Why are you repeating me?

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This film opened with $30 million in its first day. That...is...a...lot. More surprising than Haunting in Connecticut.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Are you mentally ill? Here. I'll repost what I said: Yeah, if I've seen 12 Angry Men on tv and doing something at the same time, I don't think I'd remember a single thing about that movie.

And FYI, I chose 12 Angry Men because it's on my top 5 of all time, but seeing that you can't read and are an ignorant prick, I can understand.

Ah, good, there's some hope for you yet. And I said I only watched the "F&F" movies on cable while doing something else because that's all they are good for, something to keep you from sitting around in silence.

I didn't "claim" anything. Here, I'll repost what I said: Oh, and let's see, this film in the series turned out to be the worst. Fast and Furious 3 turned out to be the second best. That says a lot. I based the fact that Fast and Furious 3 had the second best rating on RT in the series to be the second best in the series. If you want my opinion, which I know you won't care, I say Fast an Furious 3 was the BEST out of the series.

I made the comment based on how you phrased the sentance "It was the second best of the series, that says alot." You didn't mentioned anything about its RT rating being the reason why it's considered the second best, which was why I wrote it off as just your opinion.

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Originally posted by moviewizguy

The fact that you have the audacity to support Mike is quite insane.

He takes my side because like me, he knows alot of about movies as a business and an artform, and can tell a good movie from a bad one. And he's not quick to jump to the side of someone who defending bad movies in a forum that's all about bashing bad movies. It's like you're a guy posting in a NASA forum trying to convince everyone that the Earth is flat and is the center of the solar system, and then you wonder why no one takes you seriously. 

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Originally posted by moviewizguy

This film opened with $30 million in its first day. That...is...a...lot. More surprising than Haunting in Connecticut.

Surprising? Of course it would be a Box Office hit, it's tailor made for teenage viewing. We never claimed it was going to bomb, just that it would suck. The only thing less surprising are the all the reports of teenagers being pulled over by cops for trying to street race and mimick the stunts that are in the movie, which happens every year when a "F&F" movie comes out. There's another reason to bash these movies besides their poor quality, they encourage the youth of the nation to do stupid things.

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I just looked through this entire thread, and the only person to use the word "idiot" or "retard" was you, MWG.
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It doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact of the billions of logical posts I've posted on this thread.

Anyway, this film opened with $72 MILLION. That's quite a lot, even bigger than Watchmen and the biggest opening on April and this year.

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I just looked through this entire thread, and the only person to use the word "idiot" or "retard" was you, MWG.

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So it doesn't matter that you put words in our mouths? I'm not claiming that you're stupid, just that your taste in movies is subpar and you lack the "logic" not to post good reviews for bad movies here. You're like a Satanist posting on a Catholic message board, trying to convince everyone that the Devil is not evil, just misunderstood -- and then you wonder why everyone disagrees with what you have to say.

PS: As for "F&F", as the Movie Preview Critic (a man who knows the history of movies well past the 70s, and can tell a good one from a bad one) says: "Just because a movie is a hit, that doesn't mean it isn't sh*t". 

Originally posted by moviewizguy

It doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact of the billions of logical posts I've posted on this thread.

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