Member Discussion of TWILIGHT: S.B.D. #1

Rotten Tomatoes Consensus = Slow, joyless, and loaded with unintentionally humorous moments, Breaking Dawn Part 1 may satisfy the Twilight faithful, but it's strictly for fans of the franchise.

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu Most of you probably know that I have had this film on my Virtual Razzie list since the beginning of the year.

This is exactly my problem with the movie: It has written "for the fans" all over it. The extra long kissing scenes don't leave a doubt about that. They are not even trying to do it right, they are trying to make their fans happy and seem to succeed with it.

With "Eclipse", they tried to reach a male audience, in which they didn't really succeed apart from better reviews. The source material is for women, period. And the money they will make mainly comes from fans, so why would they make big changes only to get universal credit, which they knew wasn't going to happen anyways, and upset those fans?

The sloppy dialogue and the jumping from one scene to another leaves too many questions unexplained though. Terrible writing.
The other thing that really stands out as a failure are those CGI wolves. They strangely look out of place, worse than the ones in the previous movie. And here I believe David Slade had an idea of how to do that, while Condon knows his romantic ways but has no clue about CGI if he thought that looked good.

Speaking of "The Smurfs": With this movie I feel the source material has been violated.
With Breaking Dawn, I wonder what could have been done better, since there wasn't much of a chance to improve that creepy story or the shallow characters that Meyer wrote about, and that is the core problem. As somebody pointed out, that last book is even disliked by fans. I wonder if Meyer is aware of how her series has become a laughing stock. At least she gets called out by renowned authors frequently.

But again, how to judge a movie when the film makers were exclusivly planning on giving the fans what they wanted and didn't even try to make an universally liked movie, because they knew it wasn't going to be liked no matter what??? Weird situation. Opinions please...

My point is that they know their audience and they are making a movie that appeals to them. I may not like it, you may not like it, but there is a reasonably large fan base out there that does. I think that puts it in different realm than a movie like Jack and Jill that is actually trying to have a broad appeal, but just sucks. The people that made this movie don't give a hoot whether or not I ever go see it. A movie that should really be in the Razzie contention is one that the producers want me to see, but misfires.

The whole "cash grab" angle is one we probably come down on too hard here. The last guy in Hollywood that set out specifically to make movies for the sake of creating great art was probably Ed Wood Jr. and we all know how that worked out. That isn't to say that there aren't directors who still occasionally try to do sublime work.  I'm guessing that when Spielberg made Shindler's List, it was more about getting the story told from his perspective than making a lot of money. But if some young, relatively unknown director walked into a major studio production office with the same script tomorrow, he'd get his hind end tossed out onto the street. Spielberg was at a point in his career where simply having his name attached to that movie guaranteed that it would be a cash cow. So, lest we forget, this IS still America and most films are created to make money, not necessarily to raise consciousness about the horrifying religious wars going on between Muslims and Christians in Nigeria. Those stories are left to be told by documentary film makers who are typically lucky if 500 people ever see their films.

Miguel, let's assume for a second that you're right, that winning public voting awards is as important as you think. Well, then...so what? You can't change the past, and in this case, you can't change the future.  

Just when I thought I couldn't possibly come up with something more offensive than you've ever heard, my assessment of the Twilight saga's influence on popular culture rose upon me:

Hello . I'm a new Razzie voting member. I watched the pile of crap "Twilight: Breaking Dawn" after deciding I wanted to vote for next year's Razzies.