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    Posted: November 18 2011 at 5:27pm
While it wasn't as terrible as New Moon, this was still borderline unwatchable. I'll review it sometime this weekend, after I finally review P2. Also, for anyone else feeling masochistic, there's an end-credit scene.
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The sad thing here is that any hour now, the apologists for this series will begin showing up and start giving us some very concise summarizations of our ancestory just because we have the gaul to discuss it. Meanwhile, folks like Miguel are stocking their safe rooms in the certainty that the very existance of this franchise will unleash something akin to the 10 Biblical plagues on Egypt...with a zombie apocalypse tossed in for good measure....actually, that might be kind of cool. Wink
 
I mentioned it in another thread very recently, but this film seems to unleash exactly the same kind of polarizing emotions and debates that Tim Tebow has unleashed upon Denver. I'm pretty tired of the whole thing and I for one sincerly hope that we give it precisely the selective inattention it really deserves.
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Sorry SaturnWatcher, but that's probably not going to happen anytime soon, and this time I think there's legitimate reasons not to. The Razzies target bad movies, and this one has all the perfect ingredients: We have a critically panned movie with a lot of hype, directed by a former Oscar winner, not to mention a crappy storyline filled with bad dialogue, and some of the worst/wooden acting in a major motion picture since Hayden Christiansen (The so called acting mainly consists of the people staring at each other like fat guys stare at tacos). The attention is warranted, and at least alot of nominations. However, I will agree with you that in terms of "wins." I can't see this beating the likes of Jack and Jill, Bucky Larson, etc.

On a side note: If there was any more reason for me to dislike Miguel, it's because, thanks to him, anybody who dislikes this series will be somewhat stigmatized thanks to his many (many many many many many many many many) insane ramblings. I feel this is a bit unfair, 'cause there are very legit reason for this series to be razzed, as rationally posted by alot of members not named Miguel. But because of that man's very existence on our Forum, they often get overlooked.

And as for the fevered fan base that defends these movies 'till death no matter how bad they get....... f**k em Big smile. Okay that was harsh but in all seriousness, the fact that a bunch of teenage goth/emo girls have multiple orgasms to shirtless guys who have the emotional range of Neanderthals or are pale sparkly dudes, in my opinion, means nothing. In fact I'd argue that that should be even more reason to hammer this series, if nothing else just to spark their ire -- Because I think it would be hilarious!  LOL  

Last year i would've made a argument against razzing twilight because it was mediocre but this time they made a atrociously bad movie, so I say let's whoop its ass Smile ...except for Miguel, he can go home.  

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 I mentioned it in another thread very recently, but this film seems to unleash exactly the same kind of polarizing emotions and debates that Tim Tebow has unleashed upon Denver. I'm pretty tired of the whole thing and I for one sincerely hope that we give it precisely the selective inattention it really deserves.


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Your discription of the acting in this is exactly aplicable to Taylor Lautner! There's a scene where Edward's "parents" talk to him and I couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic or serious he's so stiff! I'd like this to get many nods, but the only two nods that I seriously want are Worst Actor for Lautner and Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off, or Sequel.
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Vits, I'm too afraid to look at that video, but is it by a girl named Nutty Madam? She's a deranged Twilight fan, who's a YouTube partner. As you can tell, YouTube has low standards for partners.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mbh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2011 at 10:11am
I definitely think a nomination for "Worst Screenplay" is neccessary.

And I don't know if the special category Worst Eye-Gouging Mis-Use of 3-D was a one time thing? "Season of the Witch", "I am Number Four" and those wolves in both "Breaking Wind" and "Red Riding Hood" would deserve a nod if  there were a "Worst CGI" award.
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The wolf scenes in Breaking Wind were hilarious!

As for other bad CGI this year, Priest had some pretty crappy CGI and some scenes in Green Lantern were poorly done. I haven't seen The Smurfs, but the CGI in that looked bad and Alvin And The Chipmunks 3 looks to have the same bad-looking CGI that the last two had. That means that there's eight candidates, at the least. One thing that I'd like to establish about this category is that it's for bad CGI, not bad movies that feature CGI. Suckey Punch and Trannies 3 had good CGI.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2011 at 1:53pm
Did you think that because it says that this deserves an Oscar? No, the title is a parody. Actually, a while ago the user compared it to HARRY POTTER, and showed why the latter is better. 

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Vits, I'm too afraid to look at that video, but is it by a girl named Nutty Madam? She's a deranged Twilight fan, who's a YouTube partner. As you can tell, YouTube has low standards for partners.
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I assumed that because A.) There probably are people who think that it deserves an Oscar and B.) YouTube is a breeding ground for those type of idiots.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote whatsthepoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2011 at 3:28pm
Bill Condon deserves worst director. Going from making critical aclaimed pictures to doing Twilight. Has he no dignity. 
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Originally posted by whatsthepoint

Bill Condon deserves worst director. Going from making critical aclaimed pictures to doing Twilight. Has he no dignity. 

You can't judge people's actions without knowing any details about what went on.
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Condon's direction was pretty bad. While I wouldn't put him ahead of Schumacher, Dugan, or Snyder in the Worst Director race, he should still be on the nominating ballot.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2011 at 5:07pm
I don't think it matters if he sold out for money or took the job because he thought this would be a good movie. If the directing in the movie is bad, he deserves the award.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mbh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2011 at 10:11pm
Check this out: "Breaking Wind" is amongst other record holders: biggest difference in percentage of critical reviews (26%) compared to audience reviews (92%) on RT.

Did Condon direct it simply wrong, and NOBODY, not only the fans, cares any more about a good movie, or does he deliver solely to his target audience? Every moviemaker dreams of reaching that number of approval since good word of mouth usually translates into a few extra bucks, ideally in addition to good critical reviews, of course.  I'm really curious now which other movies are panned by critics, but get that much approval from their target audiences.

ETA: Funny enough, I checked the other way around, which highly critical acclaimed movie was just liked ok by its' audience, and among others, up came Kristen Stewart's "Adventureland". That girl is in for quite the ride.


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