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    Posted: August 10 2011 at 8:52pm
HeadRAZZ gave moviewizguy a mention. Let the dude soak in his 15 minutes of fame.

By the way, the reviews for this film have been glowing. It's at 5, but they're from reliable sources. I guess hauling Tony Todd back as Bludworth was all that the series needed after all!

But I'll wait until D-day. Besides, if anything, I've got plans on seeing 30 Minutes or Less.
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People, I know "Fast 5" and "Rise ... Planet of the Apes" were surprise hits, but let's not give this movie any credit just because it got all of ... gasp ... FIVE good reviews ... on a Wednesday. Those numbers will dramatically change come Friday and Saturday.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 9:57pm
If the reviews are as trustworthy as RoadDogXVIII says, does that mean they're a sign of things to come?
 
I can still remember when Fast Five got rave reviews. I heard someone say that from July 2010 and March 2011, so many horrible movies were being released that if a movie was even the least bit better, they offered it the highest amount of praise. It's my understanding that young people across the US have been writing high reviews for films we originally predicted would fail with critics. I've never heard anything about Fast Five, The First Avenger, or Rise of the Planet of the Apes from anyone else, so I doubt I could draw much of a conclusion. Whatever the case may be, I'm going to need to see this film take a serious panning, or else... no more forums without a release first!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote HeadRAZZBerry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 8:39am
On the day before its opening, the L.A. Times all but openly plugged FD5 in 3-D with not one but TWO articles, both focused on the "challenges" of keeping a franchise going after four previous films. Here's a LINK to read the item that appeared in the Times' Business section, and here's a LINK to read the interview with first-time director Steve Quale that ran in Calendar. Both articles fairly reek with the cynicism and profit-motivation that drive modern Hollywood...  


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The reviews have dipped and now it's at 58%. Still higher than expectated, though maybe it pulled a mild Fast Five. Either way, my plan to take MWG to Vegas still looks good.
 
On a different note, I may not be able to review this because my car is in the shop for inspection.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 9:24am
Roger Ebert(2/4):"I expect this movie to make a lot of money at the box office,spent by fans eager to see still more cool ways for hot young characters to be slaughtered.My review will not be read by any of these people.They know what they enjoy".
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Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

The reviews have dipped and now it's at 58%. Still higher than expectated, though maybe it pulled a mild Fast Five. Either way, my plan to take MWG to Vegas still looks good.
 
On a different note, I may not be able to review this because my car is in the shop for inspection.
 
The Battle: LA review will be up in an hour or two.


It's now at 63 and there 18 reviews counted. Headrazzberry might wanna recheck that joke he made earlier, cause it isn't looking good for it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 12:18pm
Um, only 18 reviews ... what about the other 82 that have yet to come in? It's like the lottery, people, you have to WAIT for all the numbers to be called out before you can claim that you won or not!
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R.T.(53-57%):"It's still only for the gore-thirsty faithful,but it represents a surprising return to form for the franchise".

We need to clear the temr "pull a FAST 5".Will that from now on mean a 5th installment is the best reviewed of the saga,or the only one good?
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Originally posted by Vits

R.T.(53-57%):"It's still only for the gore-thirsty faithful,but it represents a surprising return to form for the franchise".

We need to clear the temr "pull a FAST 5".Will that from now on mean a 5th installment is the best reviewed of the saga,or the only one good?


I think that depends cause a lot of people like the first two.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 4:07pm
Or maybe it can simply be when a 5th installment is good.A few days ago,in the new(for me)episode of MODERN FAMILY,2 characters were naming their kinds of guilty pleasures,and they included any sequel from 3 forward,specially 5th ones with a new cast.
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I think that depends cause a lot of people like the first two.
Yes,but they had average reviews and not good,and that's what counts.
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Pulling a Fast Five means that a film expected to get murdered by critics gets better-than-expected reviews.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote whatsthepoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2011 at 6:59am
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Pulling a Fast Five means that a film expected to get murdered by critics gets better-than-expected reviews.


But still kill at that the box office.
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Well, people were calling "pulling a Fast Five" for Planet Of The Apes before it opened, so I don't think that B.O. has to do with pulling a Fast Five.

 
Also, I don't think that I'll be able to review Sucker Punch before this, so this'll be the next review.
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If you're going in to see FD5, it's because you know what you're expecting. Although I'm a fan of the series, I'll admit it did show its staleness after FD2, which is arguably the series' high point. As expected, the formula hasn't changed, although there are a few new tweaks here, the main one including the addition that the survivors can now kill someone to take their life and maybe, just maybe, escape Death's clutches. It's interesting to note that this new twist is the opposite of what was offered in FD2, in which new life can defeat Death, but taking life is much more readily apparent and dramatic than creating new life. Not only do they have to worry about Death, but they also have to worry about what they are willing to do to survive, which provides some very tense external conflict between the characters. 

As you guys might have figured out from the above, yes, FD5 has a plot this time around. There's also an unexpected ending that you will make you go OMG or WTF, if it isn't already spoiled to you, of course. It's also good to know that Eric Heisserer's tight script devotes some time to the survivors that are getting picked off. You start to feel for them as they are about to die. As much as I'm thankful for this, it's obvious that people still see these films for the opening disaster and death sequences, and they do not disappoint. Without spoiling anything, the opening bridge disaster is a nasty piece of work, utilizing the 3D to the fullest extent. I'm a huge horror fan, but even I found it very hard to watch, jerking my hands back as each character is killed off in grisly ways. Without a doubt, it's the best opening disaster since FD2. 

And the death scenes. Wow. They are disturbing, funny, and shocking and sometimes all at the same time. This is because newcomer director Steven Quale plays with the audience's expectations. He lays out so many things that can kill off a character in a certain scene and when you think this sharp object will impale them, they die in a completely different way. The build up is what makes these films fun to watch (apart from the last one). I also liked the fact that this film returned to the original film's serious roots, which isn't to say that it takes itself too seriously because there's an underlying sense of dark humor that's strangely entertaining and self-aware of itself. 

The ensemble cast is a mixed bag for sure. Our protagonist, Nicholas D'Agosto, doesn't really live up to his character's dramatic arc. He seems to overact his lines although he was much better in the second half. Emma Bell is a bit better although she wasn't as good as she was in FROZEN. Miles Fisher also doesn't live up to his character's internal struggle when giving off a whiny performance. However, the other supporting castmembers are quite good, including Ellen Wroe, Jacqueline MacInnes Wood, and Arlen Escarpeta. P.J. Byrne, in particular, is someone you should look out for, providing some of the film's biggest laughs, playing a character you just love to hate. David Koechner also provides some great laughs. I was disappointed with Courtney B. Vance though because he had little to do. Tony Todd is back since he was last seen in FD2 and he's like the American version of Snape (from Harry Potter). I love the way he delivers his lines with one...word...at...a...time. 

Visually, the film has some above average production values. As said before, the bridge sequence is like something from a $100 million budgeted action flick. The 3D is the best that has been offered so far this year, which comes to no surprise seeing that Quale has worked with James Cameron on AVATAR. Even from the film's ingenious and original opening credits, we have shards of glass, knives, bodies, and blood flying at us in amazing sharpness. Yet the 3D gimmick can only go so far, and Quale knows that so he doesn't overdo it by providing us with scenes of depth. Honestly, it's the best of both worlds. The soundtrack by Brian Tyler is great as well and is definitely different from the previous entries. 

All in all, FD5 brings unexpected new life to the dying franchise. The plot is handled well and most of the performances are good. If anything, this sequel proves that with new blood working behind the scenes can come a refreshing film. If you want to see the film, by all means see it in 3D because it is worth every penny. FD5 is shocking, entertaining, suspenseful, funny, disturbing, and is probably as good as FD2. It seems to be a good year for 5's (FAST FIVE included). 7/10
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Gee, a good review by MWG ... what a surprise!  
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