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    Posted: December 29 2013 at 10:54am
UPDATE from Head RAZZberry: Here's the LINK to check out our Complete List of 2014 Movie Releases. 

And, just to get the discussion going, here's the LINK to check out the website for one of the more bizarre early releases of the New Year: A James Franco-produced indie with an odd RAZZIE® connection. An exploration of sexual fear and homophobia in the "pre-AIDS era,"  INTERIOR. LEATHER BAR uses the device of "out-takes" from 1980 Worst Picture nominee CRUISING (IMDb LINK) as its tasking off point. Daring for its time, considered semi-pornographic 34 years ago (and all but forgotten now) CRUISING was something of a mess in its heavily redacted released version, with a basic plot-line which was itself homophobic. 

Not sure this one is a RAZZIE® contender, but it certainly looks like a unique notion for a motion picture... 


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Interesting, very interesting.

I heard a report about James Franco remaking Cruising, but I guess that was mis-communication.

Headrazz, just out of curiosity, do you think that film would have been better or worse if the "sex  scenes" were not cut out? 
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RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: What CRUISING had set out to be was quite daring for 1980 -- A no-holds-barred look into the subculture of leather bars in NYC. What it ended up being, in part because of timidity and studio interference, was a dis-jointed, grim and grimy mess of a movie that openly suggested that being gay and being a psychopathic killer were somehow synonymous. 

I can't say if leaving in the more graphic sexual material that William Friedken wrote and shot would have made the film any better or worse, since its basic premise was flawed. I think Friedkin's intention was to be sympathetic to the gay community, but his plot-line played on age old fears and mis-perceptions about homosexuality (which were even more prevalent 34 years ago). Even today, what Friedkin hoped to achieve with CRUISING would probably not be possible, but that long ago there was essentially no way to make such a film as a "mainstream" movie... 


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Now I know that our sights have already been set on The Legend of Hercules (which makes sense because it does star Twilight alumni Kellan and it is directed and co-written by four time Razzie nominated Renny Harlin) but this might also be - No, IT IS - another Mirror Mirror/Snow White and the Huntsman thing: There is another Hercules movie being released this year, directed by Brett Ratner and starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

However, the movie Dumbbells looks like it should also get some consideration. It's co-written by (and starring) Brian Drolet, and if IMDb and Wiki are being truthful, the man was also a brief cast member in the "classic reality show"... The Hills . Yes. That BS with Lauren Conrad and Heidi Montag (I can't believe I remember their names!).

The trailer for Dumbbells, which I posted on Trailer Trash 2014, shows off cameos of has-beens Jaleel White and Fabio. According to IMDb, there is going to be more, from has-beens old and... older. The people I recognized were: Jay Mohr, Andy Milonakis (ugh), Carl Reiner, Oscar nominee Nancy Olson and Razzie "winner" Tom Arnold.  

I would say that cast and premise combined should give this some major "Razzie pedigree," but how do you guys feel?

EDIT: Just posted the Red Band trailer too!


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Oh yeah, also... 

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Have any of you ever wondered what I look like? Here you go...

 

Originally posted by oiram

the "classic reality show"... The Hills . Yes. That BS with Lauren Conrad and Heidi Montag (I can't believe I remember their names!).
According to IMDb, there is going to be more, from has-beens old and... older. The people I recognized were: Jay Mohr, Andy Milonakis (ugh), Carl Reiner, Oscar nominee Nancy Olson and Razzie "winner" Tom Arnold.


I wouldn't call Carl Reiner a "has-been". He's still appearing in movies and shows, and he usually does a good job. Also, months ago they aired here a special with a lot of Comedy Central's roasts shows. Everytime there was a "has-been" (George Hamilton, David Hasselhoff, Hulk Hugan, etc), the roasters would say it. Several times. Reiner appeared in one of them, and everyone treated him like a legend.

I wouldn't call Jay Mohr one either. He has never been a megastar. He has always been in supporting roles in major movies and shows, and in lead roles in small movies and shows.

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Happy New Year from me, too! 

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I meant has been in that most people these days don't really know about Carl Reiner, unless they are very big movie fans, or are fans of the Soderbergh Ocean's 11 movies.
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A few comments on your awards, Vits:

Breaking Bad ended too. Why didn't you include that in your "In Memoriam?"

I am a little surprised you did not choose Kourtney Kardashian, but I guess that would have been too obvious.

Did Dads not air in your country? I ask because after all the bad things I heard about, I would have thought it would be all over your Worst list.

American Dad, I watched one recent episode because its premise intrigued me, but it was ruined by really unnecessary music numbers, which I thought it could have done without. It was the one that had Danny Glover guest star in it. I have a feeling, though, that American Dad is not going to last too long. It not only is going to be moved to a different channel, TBS, but it is also lost one of the people in charge of the show. Creative differences apparently. Not sure if it will make the show better or worse, but it certainly is a sign that it is going into life-support.

Hmm... Can I ask why Romeo Rose lost to Julie Ruin? At least they did not resort to auto-tune, which should never be used in rock.

I thought you hated Lana Del Rey.

I did not hear any hints of Pour It Up being "Electronic." I thought it was R&B.

While I did not think Moonbeams was a good song, I did not think it was worse than Adam Barfa- Excuse me, Adam Barta's song.

Though since it did win, that means both of John Lennon's sons won your awards (Sean Lennon is a part of Plastic Ono Band). I did not know Julian Lennon released a new song this year, let alone it being a duet with Steven Tyler. I just listened to it, and it was awesome.

A little mistake you made, but Pharrell (or Pharrell Williams, whichever) did not contribute anything to Busta Rhyme's Twerk It.

I personally thought Kid Cudi's Girls was worse than Immortal.

At first, I was like "How did this song 'Birds' beat out such crap like 'Lolly', 'Me Sexy', or 'Bubble Butt'. Heck, Karate Chop was awful based off that horrible pun about Emmett Till alone." Then I realize I never heard the song, so I looked it up, and "Wow, it was certainly not great to listen to, production wise."

While Mass Text is a pretty bad song, I thought It's Too Big was worse because they are singing about how big this man's privates is...

I still enjoyed finding out about songs and artists I never heard from before. That's really awesome you found them, and I also appreciate that you added in some older faces to the challenge.

If there was one true criticism I had with the entire video, its that you should have tried to make a joke about some of the winners of the Best/Worst. Otherwise, it is not as interesting. The video is still good, though.
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Originally posted by oiram


Now I know that our sights have already been set on The Legend of Hercules (which makes sense because it does star Twilight alumni Kellan and it is directed and co-written by four time Razzie nominated Renny Harlin) but this might also be - No, IT IS - another Mirror Mirror/Snow White and the Huntsman thing: There is another Hercules movie being released this year, directed by Brett Ratner and starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

Dwayne Johnson is a more believable Hercules than Kellan Lutz, so I have a very good feeling that Ratner one will be better.
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Oiram, a lot of times I choose based on expectations. Why award worst acting to a non-actor playing him/herself when I can award it to an actor who's trying? Why award a YouTube musician who doesn't even have a demo of his song when I can award an artist who released the song as a single through an actual album? Why award a song with stupid lyrics with passable rhythm when I can award a song that sounds awful? Also:

1) BREAKING BAD's Season 5B premiered here a few weeks ago... at 3AM. Bastards! Maybe they thought people had already download it by now. Anyway, there are like 5 episodes left.
2) DADS hasn't aired here. And I haven't seen any promos or posters anywhere.
3) I hated Lana Del Rey's songs from last year. That doesn't mean I'll hate all of her music.
4) Aside from what I said above, MOONBEAMS is also pretentious.
5) Thanks. I'll fix the TWERK IT mistake.
6) If you go to the YouTube page, you'll see that Tay Allyn commented on the video.
7) Thanks for the tips!

Oh... and here's Part 2:


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Intouchables, interesting. I did not know the movie was that popular. The last two years winners were blockbusters Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 and The Avengers.

I'm surprised that Muse only got that one nomination.

I was not sure if you were going to group the entire Asap crew as a Band or you were going to look at them individually. Guess that answers my question. Also, I'm surprised that there were not that many bands and singers to have as Worst overall, but on the opposite end, you have a ton!

Wow! Guess I should listen to what Bonnie Tyler has released recently.

No surprise that you chose A Haunted House.

Interesting chose, Jagten (or The Hunt). That movie should be getting more attention. Mads Mikkelsen might end up being one of your favorite actors with that and Hannibal.
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1) In the previous years, the Jury's Movie category was very tight. But this year, INTOUCHABLES got about 4/5ths of the votes! 

2) None of Muse's songs individually were bad enough. 

3) Why were there many more nominees for the best in music than for the worst? Maybe I've gotten less picky. That could also be why there more than 4 Best Movie nominees and less than 25 Worst Movie nominees.
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4) Well, if you could, you should try listening to all of the winners you haven't heard of. But start with Bonnie Tyler and then we'll see.LOL 

5) You're right that THE HUNT deserves more attention (I was surprised others voted for it for Jury's Movie). I was hoping maybe my awards would help with that. If not, then its future Oscar win (odds are all in favor) will. By the way, have you seen it? Has anyone here seen it? 

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I have not seen it, but now I wanna.
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To everyone still in 2013, Happy New Year from the future!
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James Avery of Fresh Prince of Bel Air and the original TMNT cartoon has passed away.  

R.I.P. Avery. 
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Now are you guys sure you don't want to strongly consider Dumbbells?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1978428/

Every time I look into it, I feel like it will end up in the IMDb Bottom 100. I am sure some people would have never thought Carl Reiner would be involved in this.
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