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    Posted: February 02 2007 at 8:58am

THE ORIGINAL HANNIBAL LECTER MOVIE, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS WAS ONE of the BEST SCARY MOVIES WE'VE EVER SEEN (AND THE ONLY OUT-and-OUT HORROR MOVIE EVER TO WIN A BEST PICTURE OSCAR).  THE SUBSEQUENT INSTALLMENTS... NOT SO MUCH. THIS LATEST ONE TAKES THE MOVIES' BEST-KNOWN CHIANTI-LOVING CANNIBAL INTO THE AGE of HOSTEL and SAW 3. AND on DVD, IT PROMISES to BE EVEN MORE DISGUSTING...

HANNIBAL: "Yes, as a matter of fact, I do go to the same orthodontist as Jason Voorhees...How did you guess?!?!?"
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I thought this one would not be worth it being that Sir Anthony Hopkins is not in it as Hannibal Lecter
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Hey, Brian Cox was great as Hannibal in Manhunter (1986), although his Hannibal was more "Iceman-ish" than the more well known later Hopkins portrayal. Both actors who played Hannibal Lecter were incredible, this young man has a lot to live up to. That's a lot of pressure.
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That's true -- But we won't know unless we see The Movie. it might turn out to be a good one...you never know!

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Even though Hannibal Rising has been pre-selected as worst new movie of the week, another movie called Norbit that looks berry bad comes out this week. It is yet another african-american comedy about a fat woman, this one starring Eddie Murphy. The woman is even fatter than Martin Lawrence's Big Mamma, with some skin showing.Dead  Exept this time it is only the actor, not the character, in drag. Maybe Eddie thinks "the fatter, the funnier", I say "Leave fat people alone, they were never funny and should not be made fun of!"

 
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Re the previous post:

I keep wondering who it was that came up with the concept that if a little Eddie Murphy is good in a movie, a lot of Eddie Murphy is great. He plays half a dozen characters in every movie he appears in lately, generally none of them well. The man is unquestionably a talented comedian and comic actor, but why not let him concentrate on one role let a few other actors find work?

I guess the upside of all this is that we could eventually end up with the opportunity to give Murphy Razzies for Worst Actor, Worst Actress, Worst Supporting Actor, Worst Supporting Actress and Worst Couple ...all in the same film!
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Yea in my Paper The Ventura County Star they gave Norbit 1 1/2 * which they list at Enter At Your Own Risk.
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I have to agree.  I can't see a bad prequel to a classic being worse than
an Eddie Murphy character in a fat suit thinking "she" is hot.  If I look at
"her" in that two-piece, I worry about puking. 


So far on RT, Norbit is the worse of two turds.


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HeadRAZZ,    


Even though Hannibal Rising has been pre-selected as worst new
movie of the week, another movie called Norbit that looks berry
bad comes out this week. It is yet another african-american comedy
about a fat woman, this one starring Eddie Murphy. The woman is even
fatter than Martin Lawrence's Big Mamma, with some skin showing.[IMG]
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IMG]  Exept this time it is only the actor, not the character, in drag. Maybe
Eddie thinks "the fatter, the funnier", I say "Leave fat people alone, they
were never funny and should not be made fun of!"


 
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On RT: Hannibal Rising 19%, Norbit 9%

But back to Hannibal Rising, this could end up being just like last year's
TCM: The Beginning, where the movie explains the origins of an interesting
character, but by doing so makes the character less scary movie (and the
movie more boring).

If "Hannibal Rising" ends up on the Razzie ballot at the end of the year, then
we could use the word "prequel" in the Worst Prequel or Sequel category
again.
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Hannibal Rising is just as ill-conceived as the Star Wars prequels, but of course it won't do as much box office, although I presume expectations are low given the movie's release in early February.

Just like Star Wars eps. 1-3, it's disappointing to see the creators of iconic film characters reduce the characters to victims of circumstances.  I still believe that Anakin Skywalker should have had most of his origin clouded in mystery and therefore left to the viewer's imagination. When viewing the original versions of episodes 4-6, does it even matter that the prequels were made? Are they even relevant or important? Make up your own version of Anakin's origin; the only difference between yours and Lucas' is that his is more "official", but not necessarily better, than your version.

The same applies to Hannibal.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to criticize this movie without seeing it.  I've read from at least 4 reviews now that Hannibal Rising ruins the suspension of disbelief that is necessary to enjoy characters like Hannibal Lecter.  He becomes a mundane mental patient with the usual laundry list of circumstances that shape his twisted personality.  Ho hum.  I accept that in life heroes may not be the gods we make them out to be, and that villains may not be the pure incarnations of evil we think they are.  But that's in life.  Hannibal is fiction, though he was once an extraordinarily powerful fictional villain before the sequel grindhouse ruined him.

I wanted Hannibal's early life to be clouded by the kind of contending urban myths and legends that make it impossible to make a movie like this.  I wanted to imagine his early life for myself without a bunch of money-grubbing movie executives and one-shot wonders like Thomas Harris making it "official" that "this is where he came from, this is what happened to him, these are the circumstances that steered him to evil."  That's boring and I'm not going to pay for it or waste two hours of my life on it.
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1

NORBIT 
Paramount  (DreamWorks) 

3,136 		$10,750,000

-- / $3,428
$10,750,000 / 1
N/A
N/A
N/A
2 HANNIBAL RISING
MGM (Weinstein)

3,003		 $4,900,000

-- / $1,632
$4,900,000 / 1
N/A
N/A
N/A
3 BECAUSE I SAID SO
Universal

2,529		 $2,785,000

+244.5% / $1,101
$19,370,000 / 8
N/A
N/A
N/A
4 THE MESSENGERS
Sony / Screen Gems

2,529		 $2,375,000

+284.7% / $939
$19,899,000 / 8
N/A
N/A
N/A
5 EPIC MOVIE
Fox

2,806		 $1,255,000

+305.5% / $447
$32,279,000 / 15
N/A
N/A
N/A
6 NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM
Fox

2,702		 $1,250,000

+286.2% / $463
$227,646,000 / 50
N/A
N/A
N/A
7 SMOKIN' ACES
Universal

2,199		 $1,190,000

+127.7% / $541
$28,251,000 / 15
N/A
N/A
N/A
8 PAN'S LABYRINTH
Picturehouse

1,143		 $1,000,000

+206.7% / $875
$24,042,000 / 43
N/A
N/A
N/A
9 DREAMGIRLS
Paramount (DreamWorks)

2,284		 $810,000

+162.5% / $355
$94,836,000 / 57
N/A
N/A
N/A
10 STOMP THE YARD
Sony / Screen Gems

2,045		 $675,000

+242.3% / $330
$57,398,000 / 29
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Both Norbit & Hannibal Rising which we have both called The Wrost Movies of The Weak came at 1 & 2 here a break down of this weekend Box Office

1 NORBIT
Paramount (DreamWorks)

3,136		 $10,450,000

-- / $3,332
$10,450,000 / 1		 $14,834,000

+42% / $4,730
$25,284,000 / 2		 $8,456,000

-43% / $2,696
$33,740,000 / 3
N/A
2 HANNIBAL RISING
MGM (Weinstein)

3,003		 $4,875,000

-- / $1,623
$4,875,000 / 1		 $5,250,000

+7.7% / $1,748
$10,125,000 / 2		 $3,225,000

-38.6% / $1,074
$13,350,000 / 3
N/A
3 BECAUSE I SAID SO
Universal

2,529		 $2,757,000

+241.1% / $1,090
$19,342,000 / 8		 $4,135,000

+50% / $1,635
$23,477,000 / 9		 $2,149,000

-48% / $850
$25,626,000 / 10
N/A
4 THE MESSENGERS
Sony / Screen Gems

2,529		 $2,300,000

+272.6% / $909
$19,824,000 / 8		 $3,200,000

+39.1% / $1,265
$23,024,000 / 9		 $1,700,000

-46.9% / $672
$24,724,000 / 10
N/A
5 NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM
Fox

2,702		 $1,300,000

+301.6% / $481
$227,696,000 / 50		 $2,850,000

+119.2% / $1,055
$230,546,000 / 51		 $1,600,000

-43.9% / $592
$232,146,000 / 52
N/A
6 PAN'S LABYRINTH
Picturehouse

1,143		 $970,000

+197.5% / $849
$24,012,000 / 43		 $1,550,000

+59.8% / $1,356
$25,562,000 / 44		 $1,029,000

-33.6% / $900
$26,591,000 / 45
N/A
7 EPIC MOVIE
Fox

2,806		 $1,250,000

+303.9% / $445
$32,274,000 / 15		 $2,200,000

+76% / $784
$34,474,000 / 16		 $1,000,000

-54.5% / $356
$35,474,000 / 17
N/A
8 SMOKIN' ACES
Universal

2,199		 $1,154,000

+120.9% / $525
$28,215,000 / 15		 $1,737,000

+50.5% / $790
$29,952,000 / 16		 $902,000

-48.1% / $410
$30,854,000 / 17
N/A
9 DREAMGIRLS
Paramount (DreamWorks)

2,284		 $773,000

+150.5% / $338
$94,799,000 / 57		 $1,450,000

+87.6% / $635
$96,249,000 / 58		 $870,000

-40% / $381
$97,119,000 / 59
N/A
10 STOMP THE YARD
Sony / Screen Gems

2,045		 $625,000

+217% / $306
$57,348,000 / 29		 $1,125,000

+80% / $550
$58,473,000 / 30		 $650,000

-42.2% / $318
$59,123,000 / 31
N/A
11 THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS
Sony / Columbia

1,777		 $625,000

+178% / $352
$158,762,000 / 57		 $1,150,000

+84% / $647
$159,912,000 / 58		 $625,000

-45.7% / $352
$160,537,000 / 59
N/A
- LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
Warner Bros.

781		 $435,000

+142.1% / $557
$8,641,000 / 52		 $775,000

+78.2% / $992
$9,416,000 / 53		 $455,000

-41.3% / $583
$9,870,000 / 54
N/A
- CATCH AND RELEASE
Sony / Columbia

1,561		 $575,000

+221% / $368
$13,222,000 / 15		 $800,000

+39.1% / $512
$14,022,000 / 16		 $425,000

-46.9% / $272
$14,447,000 / 17
N/A
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This is truly a shame, because I thought that maybe th etime had come that real horror scripting had finally resurfaced, (house of a thousand corpses, devil's rejects, the better than the original remake of The hills have eyes ( this i will im sure get some fir, but i think wes craven is possibly one of the worst horror directors of all time, etc.) but the Hostel and Saw references alone claim that this will be just a gore fest film alone and not one bit of what I believe real horror movie needs. With such an amazing a brilliant Character (Hannibal Lector) to write off of and into and it just goes to waste, depressing really. and as far as the Pressure this actor has to live up to comment above, I personally think that if this actor had any sense at all he wouldve avoided the "pressure" with any smarts at all knowing that it could only go so far after the last installments. I can't fathom any respectable case as to why or how he would've thought picking up this role would've been a good idea, haha. 

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This is the worst film I've seen this year! The acting is terrible, as is the directing! (I liked Ghost Rider, though)...
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Brian Cox, who's Sanndman's favorite actor, played Hannibal Lecter in the film called Manhunter (1986), the first of the Hannibal Lecter series. Then, it was Anthony Hopkins in the next three Hannibal Lecter films, The Silence of the Lambs (1991), Hannibal (2001), and Red Dragon (2002), and then, finally, this: Hannibal Rising (2007), in which 2 different actors played Hannibal, Aaron Thomas, who plays 8-year-old Hannibal, and Gaspard Ulliel, who plays the older Hannibal. Anyone who doesn't know who Gaspard Ulliel, well, he's a French actor, and has been in several French films. His dream was always to direct a movie, and after completing his studies at the lycée (French high school), he majored in cinema at the University of Saint-Denis. However, fate had other plans, and he is currently pursuing an acting career. He appeared in a mini TV film called "Une femme en blanc" (1997), and he was only 12 years old at that time. Then, he would make other French films before doing this one, Hannibal Rising, which was his first major English-language film. So there's some information to summon up for you all.
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GOOFS: Continuity: When Hannibal Lecter is about to kill the guy in the houseboat when trying to rescue Lady Murasaki Shikibu, he has the guy on the ground with a knife next to his throat, with no blood on it, when the camera shoots back at Hannibal Lecter, the knife is shown with blood.
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