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Forum Name: GHOST RIDER
Forum Discription: Nominated for Worst Actor (Nicolas Cage)
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Printed Date: July 28 2014 at 5:40pm


Topic: GHOST Toasties??
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: GHOST Toasties??
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 10:35am

FEATURING 2006 WORST ACTOR NOMINEE NICOLAS CAGE ( http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=141 - WICKER MAN ) as a MOTORCYCLE STUNT RIDER WHO SELLS HIS SOUL to SAVE HIS LOVE, GHOST RIDER LOOKS PERFECT for the UNDEMANDING 14-YEAR-OLD AUDIENCE. BUT THOSE of US WITHOUT PIMPLES MAY FIND IT JUST a TAD... HOKEY and LAUGHABLE. BUT HOKEY and LAUGHABLE ENOUGH to BRING CAGE a SECOND RAZZIE NOMINATION?!?

MENDES: "Is that a gun in your hand...or are you makin' S'mores the hard way?!?!"



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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 11:29am
I don't know. The Special Effects look to be pretty cool in this one, and his Motorcycle is pretty awsome as well http://www.fandango.com/PhotoGallery.aspx?ImageId=210646&mid=90950 - http://www.fandango.com/PhotoGallery.aspx?ImageId=210646& ; ;mid=90950  I will probably be lining up for GHOST RIDER this weekend... 

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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 12:30pm
The reviews on IMDB ( Keep in mind it's IMDB), seem favorable, as is the one review on rotten tomatoes (Knock on wood.......my knocking on wood arm is starting to have a mind of it's own, like Dr. Strangelove's robotic arm). I think that this will be a good comic book film. I think that Cage, being a huge comic book fan, won't sleepwalk or mug with this one.  I believe  the entire cast will be good. I'm actually looking more forward to this than Spider-man 3.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 12:48pm

I found out that Nick Cage was not The First choice for Johnny Blaze -- it was actually Kiefer Sutherland. But Nick, being a fan of The Comic and having two Ghost Rider Bikes custom made for himself, lobbied for The Role.

I'm not sure about two Bad guys in Spider Man 3: http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0290556/ - James Franco  as The  Hobgoblin, and   http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0333410/ - Topher Grace  as Venom...



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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 3:02pm
I have not read the comic books but the movie looks really silly to me. I doesn't look entertaing like most of the recent comic book films. But I don't think it will be enough to earn Cage another razzie nomination. On the other hand, in the trailer, Eva Mendes reminded me of Jennifer Lopez... 


Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 2:34am
It looks like it's gonna be another Razzie nom for Nicolas Cage. But at least he never was nominated for Worst Actor for World Trade Center, since he put on a better performance in that film. My thoughts are that Cage had a better role in World Trade Center than his role in Wicker Man.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 2:51am

Nicolas Cage really hits one out of the park!"

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-5906/ - Mirko Parlevliet , http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-982/ - COMINGSOON.NET

What do you get when you hire a director who really understands and loves the material? A faithful adaptation of a comic. In recent years it happened with Bryan Singer and X-Men, Sam Raimi and Spider-Man, as well as Christopher Nolan and Batman. It is now safe to put writer/director Mark Steven Johnson in that class as well for Ghost Rider.

Superhero Hype! got a chance to watch the anticipated
http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7950 - Ghost Rider movie, opening February 16 and starring Nicolas Cage, Eva Mendes, Wes Bentley, Sam Elliott, Donal Logue and Peter Fonda.

In the Columbia Pictures release, superstar motorcycle stunt rider Johnny Blaze (Cage) makes a deal with the devil (Mephistopheles, played by Fonda) to keep his father from dying. But Mephistopheles tricks Blaze, who leaves childhood sweetheart, Roxanne (Mendes), in order to protect her. Years later, the son of the devil, Blackheart, wants to take control over the world with the help of three fallen angels, called the Hidden. It is then that Mephistopheles comes to Blaze, who must now hunt down the rogue demons as the Ghost Rider.

There's quite a bit of comics history for Johnson to cover in the film (just look at Wikipedia's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_%28comics%29 - rundown of the Ghost Rider comics to get some kind of idea), which makes the beginning of the film seem forced. The backstory is about your typical father/son who jump motorcycles for a living (!), but it's this relationship that forces Johnny to sign his soul to the devil and we never really see that overwhelming love between father and son. There's not a lot of time to tell the origins either, so you're moved quickly to the point where Nicolas Cage and Blackheart & Co. take over the story.

It's probably a good thing, because that is also where the movie starts getting good. We need a bit more setup until Johnny Blaze (Cage) is called upon by Memistopheles. But when he does, we get the treat we've been expecting. Soon after, you get to see Blaze transform into Ghost Rider for the first time, which looks extremely painful for Blaze but enjoyable to the Ghost Rider.

When Ghost Rider does battle with Blackheart and the Hidden (or the elements, so to speak) it's an all-out slugfest with no holds barred. Their powers give the Ghost Rider a challenge in having to figure out how to defeat them. The scenes feature impressive special effects that'll have you say many times, "cool!" We won't spoil them here, but many of the best visual effects, including the full transformation, you haven't seen yet in trailers or clips. For example, the riding up the building scene from the trailers is quite long and is definitely a highlight of the film, with much more happening before and after.

Nicolas Cage really hits one out of the park here. We noticed a similar southern accent to how he talked in Con-Air (hey, the movie takes place in Texas after all), but Cage has created both a tragic yet fun character on-screen. It's entertaining to watch him play Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider. Fonda and Elliott are great as always, while Bentley was good casting for Blackheart and Logue adds comic relief to the dark story. Eva Mendes is definitely nice to look at, but she doesn't add much as Roxanne. We didn't really feel to close to her as we probably should have.

Those who were afraid that the film's initial release was moved from summer 2006 to February 2007 should be assured that the FX team has pulled out all the stops. CGI flames can be tricky and Ghost Rider's flaming skull, body and hellcycle are awesome and well worth the delay. The special effects for Blackheart and the Hidden were also very well done.

Naturally, since this is the story of Ghost Rider, parents should heed the rating for this film, which is PG-13 for horror violence and disturbing images.

Ghost Rider is a fun ride and definitely worth checking out!




Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 9:50am

I don't think Ghost Rider will be a big bomb, or get any Razzie nominations. But I am someone who enjoyed even the less well- recieved comic book movies, like Daredevil and Fantastic Four. I was not impressed when watching the trailer for Ghost Rider.

I think the problem is that this movie tries to take itself very seriously, but the whole idea and storyline is a little too cartoonish and silly for that.



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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 11:10am
Cage was very good in World Trade Center. The only films where I think he wasn't good in, were Captain Corelli's Mandolin and The Wicker Man, but as I've said, his making fun of the Wicker Man kept from tossing a brick through the screen. Ellen Burstyn was much worse. He rebounded well from Mandolin with Adaptation, and I think he'll rebound with this film.


Posted By: deadguy76
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 3:04pm

Originally posted by tomsmo

I don't know. The Special Effects look to be pretty cool in this one, and his Motorcycle is pretty awsome as well http://www.fandango.com/PhotoGallery.aspx?ImageId=210646&mid=90950 - http://www.fandango.com/PhotoGallery.aspx?ImageId=210646& ; ; ;mid=90950  I will probably be lining up for GHOST RIDER this weekend... 
I think they look particularly fake. I don't judge a movie by special effects. I prefer to examine the script, cinematography, and (like Sanndman) the acting.

If I want see cool graphics I'll grab a playstation game. I'd rather see a good movie on the big screen.



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"Woody Allen, whatever his failings, does not make movies for morons. Most directors do. Of course, most directors are morons."

- Joe Queenan

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Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 3:07pm

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sony-Admits-Ghost-Rider-Will-Suck-4444.html - Check out this site .  They notice how more and more films are being hidden from critics, and how this is one of the first times a high profile film, this with a $120 million dollar budget, has been kept hidden (with the above exception).



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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 4:16pm

You can view clips of Ghost Rider by clicking The Web Address Below.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/psp/clips/ - http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/psp/clips/ http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/psp/clips/index.php?clip=psp_clip5 -



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 4:29pm

Rotten Tomatoes.com has 1 fresh 4 Rotten being 20%. It was beaten out by "Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls," with 8 fresh 19 rotten 30%. Maybe "Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls" should have been The Wrost Movie Of The Weak, more so than Ghost Rider

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_rider/ - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_rider/

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/daddys_little_girls/ - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/daddys_little_girls/



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Posted By: sportsartist24
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 4:41pm

At least MUSIC AND LYRICS isn't on the list. On RT, it's getting a 65% critic approval, with 79 fresh and 43 rotten, and the cream of the crop of MUSIC AND LYRICS is sitting at 86%. And it does look like Drew Barrymore and Hugh Grant are making comebacks.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/music_and_lyrics/ - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/music_and_lyrics/

However, TYLER PERRY'S DADDY'S LITTLE GIRLS just barely beat MUSIC AND LYRICS at the box office, with T.P.D.L.G. finishing at $4.5 million, and M.A.L. finishing at $4.1 million.

1 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=daddyslittlegirls.htm - TYLER PERRY'S DADDY'S LITTLE GIRLS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=lionsgate.htm - Lionsgate

2,111

N/A

N/A
$4,575,101

-- / $2,167
$4,575,101 / 1

N/A
2 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=musicandlyricsby.htm - MUSIC AND LYRICS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=warnerbros.htm - Warner Bros.

2,929

N/A

N/A
$4,155,401

-- / $1,419
$4,155,401 / 1

N/A



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The Mormons were'nt really popular in the beginning, they're now becoming more popular, even in Hollywood.


Posted By: FilmCricket
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 2:40pm
At the time I'm writing this, the tomatometer is at 27%, with a cream of the crap at 33%.

That a movie like this gets any positive review at all has me wondering how these idiots find someone to pay them to state their opinions about movies.

The fanzine website critics that make up most of the reviews for Ghost Rider always give comic book franchises the benefit of the doubt, so I never trust them.  You really have to read between the lines to find out if they really liked the movie, or are just making excuses for it and micro-managing all the politics of it (e.g. using phrases like "watchable" or "serviceable", as though those terms justify the expensive two-hour experience of surviving the multiplex.)

Ghost Rider was doomed from conception.  It may or may not make money (a reported 120 million dollar budget makes it unlikely) but in the end the only opinion that matters is mine.  I won't pay to see it at the multiplex, on DVD, on PPV or cable.  It doesn't seem like anyone involved with it took the character seriously, and I can see special effects that are just as good or better in movies that I like.

Yes, I am judging a movie before I see it, but that is how I decide which movies I will see.  We all do it: that is why you may not want to watch XXX or Adam Sandler movies.  You don't think you're judging them, but you are.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 2:47pm
I like Adam Sandler Movies Water Boy & Happy Gilmore Triple X was okay with Vin but not with Cube.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 4:55am

Ghost Rider made $15,250,000 on opening day here are Friday Estimates below

1 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ghostrider.htm - GHOST RIDER
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=sony.htm - Sony / Columbia

3,619
$15,250,000

-- / $4,214
$15,250,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
2 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bridgetoterabithia.htm - BRIDGE TO TERABITHIA
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=buenavista.htm - Buena Vista

3,139
$6,180,000

-- / $1,969
$6,180,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
3 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=norbit.htm - NORBIT
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=pardw.htm - Paramount (DreamWorks)

3,138
$4,310,000

+192.7% / $1,373
$46,392,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A
4 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=musicandlyricsby.htm - MUSIC AND LYRICS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=warnerbros.htm - Warner Bros.

2,955
$4,150,000

+202.2% / $1,404
$9,679,000 / 3

N/A

N/A

N/A
5 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=daddyslittlegirls.htm - TYLER PERRY'S DADDY'S LITTLE GIRLS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=lionsgate.htm - Lionsgate

2,111
$2,975,000

+166.1% / $1,409
$8,668,000 / 3

N/A

N/A

N/A
6 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=breach.htm - BREACH
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=universal.htm - Universal

1,489
$2,920,000

-- / $1,961
$2,920,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
7 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hannibalrising.htm - HANNIBAL RISING
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=mgmweinstein.htm - MGM (Weinstein)

3,003
$1,520,000

+104% / $506
$18,182,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A
8 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=becauseisaidso.htm - BECAUSE I SAID SO
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=universal.htm - Universal

2,446
$1,395,000

+175.8% / $570
$29,653,000 / 15

N/A

N/A

N/A
9 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=messengers.htm - THE MESSENGERS
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=screengems.htm - Sony / Screen Gems

2,183
$1,120,000

+179.1% / $513
$27,829,000 / 15

N/A

N/A

N/A
10 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=nightatthemuseum.htm - NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=fox.htm - Fox

2,042
$840,000

+148.6% / $411
$234,474,000 / 57

N/A

N/A

N/A
11 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=panslabyrinth.htm - PAN'S LABYRINTH
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=picturehouse.htm - Picturehouse

905
$550,000

+94.2% / $608
$28,397,000 / 50

N/A

N/A

N/A
12 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=smokinaces.htm - SMOKIN' ACES
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=universal.htm - Universal

1,111
$400,000

+32.5% / $360
$33,051,000 / 22

N/A

N/A

N/A
13 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=epicmovie.htm - EPIC MOVIE
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=fox.htm - Fox

1,426
$375,000

+73.3% / $263
$36,972,000 / 22

N/A

N/A

N/A
- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=queen.htm - THE QUEEN
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=miramax.htm - Miramax

807
$305,000

+51% / $378
$50,046,000 / 140

N/A

N/A

N/A
- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lettersfromiwojima.htm - LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=warnerbros.htm - Warner Bros.

651
$230,000

+57.2% / $353
$10,769,000 / 59

N/A

N/A

N/A
- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=babel.htm - BABEL
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=paramountvantage.htm - Paramount Vantage

305
$125,000

+20.4% / $410
$32,637,000 / 113

N/A

N/A

N/A
- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=departed.htm - THE DEPARTED
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=warnerbros.htm - Warner Bros.

320
$81,000

+25.9% / $253
$131,172,000 / 134

N/A

N/A

N/A
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N/A

N/A

N/A

N/A



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 10:44am
After seeing the tomatometer, I expected to be as disappointed with this as I was with the abysmal Van Helsing. After seeing it today, I was Very pleasantly surprised. The film was very faithful to the comic book it was based off of. I enjoyed this film very much. I think that this is Cage's best performance since Adaptation. He gave one of the best comic hero performances I've seen. Also good were Peter Fonda, and Sam Elliott.  I think that although this film wasn't as good as Sin City, or Batman Begins, it was much better than The Fantastic Four, The Punisher The Hulk, and Daredevil. It shouldn't be on the nominating ballot, because I didn't find any of the performances to be deserving of it.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 11:01am
I'm glad some one saw it and is able to give us a honest review glad to hear it was worth it would you say that it paid homage to a lot of old B rated Horror films like The Thing The Fly etc, and also what about Eva Mendes she looked kind missed cast kind like Kate Boseworth in Superman Returns, or was better then Kate well any ways glad to hear The Critics were wrong on how they viewed The Film in my Paper they have Worth It So-So and Enter At Your Own Risk which one would put it in.


Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 2:44pm

Eva played the Damsel in Distress better than Katie Holmes in Batman Begins and Kate Bosthworth in Superman Returns. She did much better than I expected her to. There were several homages, but nothing glaringly obvious to the point where it felt like a rip off. And so I'm not accused of being a blind fanboy: Here's notable things I liked:

1. Peter Fonda's patronizing tone he displayed as Mephistopheles, reminded me of Claude Rains in "Angel on my shoulder", he played the prince of lies, as would be expected, the kind of person who'll tell you what you want to hear for his own benefit. He was a much better comic book devil than Peter Stormare in Constantine.

2. Sam Elliott's mentor figure, was cool, and played to perfection by Elliot.  Although I guessed the twist involving his character from the beginning, because, hey, he's Sam Elliott. (You'll know what I mean when you see it)

3. Nic Cage, as I predicted, being passionate about the subject matter, didn't ham his way through this like in the Wicker Man ( Although I'm in the minority that found him hilarious in The Wicker Man). He gave a very good action hero performance. I rank this up there with Face/off, which, despite it's hard to believe nature, featured good work from him and John Travolta. ( Who I thought was pretty good in the Punisher, he's usually good as a bad guy, like in Pulp Fiction, Face/off, and Broken Arrow, although Battlefield Earth is a huge, gaping, exception.)

 



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 4:19pm
okay so I guess it worth it then from what you were saying looking forward to seeing it this week.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 6:27am

'Ghost Rider' Lights Box-Office Fire

Sunday February 18 1:37 PM ET

Satan's bounty hunter has looted the wallets of movie-goers. "Ghost Rider," Sony's comic-book adaptation starring http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800018581 - Nicolas Cage as a motorcycle stunt driver moonlighting as a collector of evil souls for the devil, debuted as the top weekend movie with $44.5 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.

Debuting in second place with $22.1 million was Disney's " http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1800378342 - Bridge to Terabithia ," based on the children's novel about a boy and girl who create an elaborate fantasy land to escape from the troubles of the real world.

The movies bumped off the previous weekend's No. 1 flick, DreamWorks' http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800011536 - Eddie Murphy comedy "Norbit," which slipped to third place with $16.8 million, lifting its total to $58.9 million.

Premiering at No. 4 with $14 million was the Warner Bros. romance "Music and Lyrics," starring http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800019156 - Hugh Grant as a washed-up pop singer and http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800016287 - Drew Barrymore as his unlikely songwriting partner.

The Lionsgate romance "Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls" opened in fifth place with $12.1 million, a sharp drop from filmmaker Perry's February releases the last two years, 2006's "Madea's Family Reunion," which premiered with $30 million, and 2005's "Diary of a Mad Black Woman," which debuted with $21.9 million.

Universal's spy thriller "Breach" debuted at No. 6 with $10.4 million. It stars http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800018625 - Chris Cooper as Robert Hanssen, the FBI man caught in 2001 for selling secrets to Russia, and http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800018813 - Ryan Phillippe as a young bureau operative who helps bring him down.

Though trashed by critics, "Ghost Rider" helped pull Hollywood out of its box-office doldrums, with overall revenues rising for the first time in six weekends. The top 12 movies took in $141.4 million, up 28 percent from the same weekend last year.

"This is the weekend that could turn the tide and get us going in the right direction," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Media By Numbers.

Based on the Marvel Comic books, "Ghost Rider" delivered Hollywood's biggest opening so far this year, topping the $34.2 million debut for "Norbit." "Ghost Rider" was the best opening weekend ever for Cage, beating the $35.1 million debut of "National Treasure."

"Ghost Rider" also extended Hollywood's winning streak with comic-book adaptations, a genre some critics have said would eventually play itself out.

"I think as long as stories are being told in a way that audiences embrace them, you can go for a long, long, long, long time," Bruer said.

Coming this summer are two big comic-book sequels, Sony's "Spider-Man 3" and 20th Century Fox's "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer."

Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday.

1. "Ghost Rider," $44.5 million.

2. "Bridge to Terabithia," $22.1 million.

3. "Norbit," $16.8 million.

4. "Music and Lyrics," $14 million.

5. "Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls," $12.1 million.

6. "Breach," $10.4 million.

7. "Hannibal Rising," $5.5 million.

8. "Because I Said So," $5 million.

9. "The Messengers," $3.8 million.

10. "Night at the Museum," $3.7 million.

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Universal Pictures and Focus Features are owned by NBC Universal, a joint venture of General Electric Co. and Vivendi Universal; Sony Pictures, Sony Screen Gems and Sony Pictures Classics are units of Sony Corp.; DreamWorks, Paramount and Paramount Vantage are divisions of Viacom Inc.; Disney's parent is The http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&cf=gen&id=1800012351 - Walt Disney Co.; Miramax is a division of The Walt Disney Co.; 20th Century Fox, Fox Searchlight Pictures and Fox Atomic are owned by News Corp.; Warner Bros., New Line, Warner Independent and Picturehouse are units of Time Warner Inc.; MGM is owned by a consortium of Providence Equity Partners, Texas Pacific Group, Sony Corp., Comcast Corp., DLJ Merchant Banking Partners and Quadrangle Group; Lionsgate is owned by Lionsgate Entertainment Corp.; IFC Films is owned by Rainbow Media Holdings, a subsidiary of Cablevision Systems Corp.




Posted By: Movie Man
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 10:35am
Originally posted by Sanndman228715

I rank this up there with Face/off, which, despite it's hard to believe nature, featured good work from him and John Travolta. ( Who I thought was pretty good in the Punisher, he's usually good as a bad guy, like in Pulp Fiction, Face/off, and Broken Arrow, although Battlefield Earth is a huge, gaping, exception.)

 



Actually, John Travolta and Nicolas Cagse both took turns sharing the good guy/bad guy roles in "Face/Off", which I think is one of the great action movies ever made. They both made the movie.


Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 2:06pm

Bob Strauss in the Los Angeles Daily News suggests that it's Cage's "oddball" performance that makes the movie work. "Whether you like it, hate it or just don't get it, this at least makes Ghost Rider an intriguing, witty/nutso acting experiment from beginning to end," he writes. And Matt Weiss concludes in the Dallas Morning News that the movie "achieves an emotional resonance and sheer enjoyability that, like a fine wine, complements the accompanying cheese."

                                                                                       -IMDB

 



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 2:15pm
Yea I think either going to get this Movie, or your not it did the same as The Daredevil opeing weekend three years ago.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 20 2007 at 2:35pm
I saw Ghost Rider today I thought Nick Cage did pretty good Job as Johnny Blaze aka The Ghost Rider it was not as bad as every body been saying it was far better then The Hulk. I also thought that Blackheart was a far better Bad Guy then Doc Ock from Spiderman 2. I think Ghost Rider was done in that Campy B Rated sort of way well go see and judge for your self it also worth seeing Johnny Blaze's Helicopter Jump on Football field Goal Post to Goal Post.


Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 21 2007 at 6:15am

I have to disagree about Blackheart, I thought Alfred Molina was better in Spider-man 2. I also thought that Peter Fonda was a better villain in this film than Blackheart was, it's just a matter of taste.



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 21 2007 at 6:28am
I guess The way I meant was how Doc Ock ended up becoming the good guy at The End unlike The Green Goblin who stayed a Bad Guy even when he was killed I guess that what I meant I did not mean acting wise I meant how a bad guy keeps being The Bad guy no matter what, and does not turn good he stays Bad, but acting yes Alfred Molina was not bad actor thought he did a good Job then Blackheart I rank him up there with Frost from Blade sort thought that he playing in Ghost Rider.


Posted By: PopcornAvenger
Date Posted: February 22 2007 at 4:24pm
While mediocre, it wasn't nearly as cheesy as I thought it'd be. I didn't look for the EXIT once, so it passed. Barely. I even enjoyed Peter Fonda's cameos.

Not worthy of a razzie, IMO, although they played a trailer of a potential upcoming trainwreck of a movie, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

Not sure why folks keep pointing to The Hulk, it wasn't razzie worthy. Top honors for that spot is a dead heat between Electra and the remake of Punisher (y'know its GOT to be bad when Dolph's version is actually better)



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Posted By: writestuffla
Date Posted: February 25 2007 at 3:45am
Without a doubt. Cage has gotten botox on his botox and lipo and his lipo
and for what? His stunt double with the flaming CGI skull carried most of
the movie, and was far more interesting.   It looks like Stan Lee and Marvel
are now throwing any superhero against the wall and see if they stick.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 25 2007 at 4:23am
I saw that it made The Screen last night on what was on tap for 28th annuel Razzies, but Transformers


Posted By: EraFirma
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 10:24am
I am just really happy about two things, well, three. one being that finally now Comic Books are actually being taken seriously enough to get finance for film, two, Ghost Rider finally got made, this should've happened years ago, and three one of my favorite actors of all time Nicholas Cage is Johnny Blaze. This is going to be amazing, bottom line. Now if Green Lantern, Sandman, and Preacher would only start being filmed I would be the happiest boy in the whole world.

And I saw a comment on Daredevil up there, but I have to say that Daredevil was the worst comic book adaption film ever made, ever. Maybe it's just me but I don't believe that Ben Affleck will ever live up to his roles in Mallrats, Chasing Amy, and the small role in Dazed and Confused..  He is gotta be one of the worst actors I've ever seen. And Kevin Smith will only ever be the one to use Ben's embarrasing acting the right way.


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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 10:36am
I heard Ben Affleck did a good job as George Reeves in HollywoodLand.

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Posted By: EraFirma
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 10:47am
I dunno, I don't trust it. He just always makes me think of some dirty sleazy date rapist. 

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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: February 27 2007 at 12:00pm
Affleck was very good in HollywoodLand.

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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: February 27 2007 at 5:51pm
I thought he even looked a little like George Reeves. I have not seen it. Guess it's one I'm going to have to rent and watch...

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Posted By: EraFirma
Date Posted: February 27 2007 at 8:24pm
You actually got my curious muscles tic'ing. So i've been reading about it, and due to your suggestions, I'm gonna check it out, I hated William H Macy up until just a year or so ago so....who knows. 

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Posted By: WarioGolf
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 1:20pm
At first I didn't like the movie that much, but the more I think about it, it wasn't that bad! It was way better then Daredevil. (Like that's hard to do!)

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 9:09am
Well, I thought Daredevil was very good but on the other hand, I finally saw my first 2007 movie: Ghost Rider. It wasn't good. It was okay but definately doesn't deserve a nomination for a Razzie. It was a mindless fun movie that doesn't take itself too seriously.


Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 03 2007 at 3:32am

Over at BoxOfficeMoJo.com they have what they call The PRESIDENT'S DAY COMIC BOOK BATTLE, and  what they have is Ghost Rider vs. Daredevil vs. Constantine, and How Much Money They made over The President's Day weekend. Ghost Rider wins with $110,000,000 followed by DareDevil coming in second $ 102,543,518 and coming in third is Constantie with $75,976,178. You can view more of The Comic Book Battle by clicking The Link below.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=presdaycomic.htm - http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=presdaycomi c.htm  



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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 11:31am
HeadRazz, have you gotten a chance to see this yet? I know you said you enjoyed the inferior Fantastic Four. What'd you think of this one if you saw it?


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 12:15pm

Well, three films most people particularlly didn't like were Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, and Elektra, but I thought all three were pretty decent.

Response from Head RAZZberry: I must disagree with you on ELEKTRA (I thought for a comic book movie, it was too slow and boring). I'd have to agree, generally, on FANTASTIC FOUR ( although Worst Actress nominee Jessica Alba stank in it, the film itself was actually okay). As for GHOST RIDER, when we ended this year's 27th Annual RAZZIE ceremonies with a montage of possible 2007 contenders, a chant of "GHOST RIDER! GHOST RIDER!" rose from the audience, suggesting that many of our members (and maybe some of the press in attendance) disagree with you about Cage's latest effort...



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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 14 2007 at 3:26pm
Does The Future Hold a Double Razzies Nomination For Mr. Cage? I saw a trailer for Cage's new film "Next," where the concept has a man who can see the future, and change events before they happen. Eventually, he is forced to choose between saving the world and saving himself. It sounded an awful lot like "Minority Report," but I found out it's written by the same person who wrote "Minority Report." You can judge for yourself by viewing The trailer for "Next" at the official site:  http://www.nextmovie.com/ - http://www.nextmovie.com/


Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: March 15 2007 at 10:03am
I will admit that, like Deadguy, I miss the old Nicolas Cage. The one who did good independent films instead of big budget action films. What happened to the intense guy who actually ate a cockaroach for Vampire's kiss, had two teeth pulled for Birdy, and kidnapped a baby for Holly Hunter? ( I pray he didn't do that in preparation for Raising Arizona) I'm not saying that he's not good in the action films he's in ( I liked him in Face/off, Lord of war, and even Ghost Rider). And I heard he was very good in Adaptation.  But I'd have to agree with Deadguy, in that, even though he's still capable of putting on great performances, His peak was 1982-1995 (Ending with his Oscar winning role in Leaving Las Vegas). But again, let me point out that I still consider him a good actor, I just hope he starts doing movies without so many damn explosions


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 16 2007 at 9:35am
Next actually looks like a good movie (saw preview before 300). It sounds a lot like Minority Report, Groundhog Day, and Premonition, though...

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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 8:23am
I think Nicolas Cage should avoid being on the ballot this year, he was good in Ghost Rider, and his cameo in Grindhouse was hilarious.  If Next is as good, as some people think it will be, he'll have come a long way in making up for appearing in The Wicker Man.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 6:15pm

Ghost Rider was a fun popcorn movie.  I wouldn't vote for it if it were nominated.

And, EraFirma, if you thought any of the comic book movies since X-Men were the worst comic book adaptations, then you haven't seen any of the Captain America movies.  I came across one of them on TV one day, I don't know which one, and to see a full-grown man dressed up like Captain America hiding behind what was obviously a small, plastic shield while moving along. . . . well, sorry people, I just had to change the channel.



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: May 14 2007 at 11:36am

Like I said in the other thread, the majority of the reviews for Next, like Ghost Rider, say that Nic is better than the film he appears in once again. Which again makes me nostalgic for the days when he was good in good films, instead of being good in mediocre projects.



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 9:02am
As for the fans chanting "Ghost Rider, Ghost Rider" at the ceremony I wonder how many of them saw the film, and how many of them pulled an "IMDB" and condemned it because it seemed like the cool thing to do without seeing it. It comes out on DVD soon, I think it was way better than The Fantastic Four, but I really want to know HeadRazz's opinion when he sees it.

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Posted By: ITbeast
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 8:25am

I'd have to agree with RAZZ on Elektra, being an avid fan of the comic book series. It wasn't even close to a faithfull apadaptation, and was utterly unimagintive and boring. She was  alot better done Daredevil (which I realize is not saying much)... 

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Well, three films most people particularlly didn't like were Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, and Elektra, but I thought all three were pretty decent.

Response from Head RAZZberry: I must disagree with you on ELEKTRA (I thought for a comic book movie, it was too slow and boring). I'd have to agree, generally, on FANTASTIC FOUR ( although Worst Actress nominee Jessica Alba stank in it, the film itself was actually okay). As for GHOST RIDER, when we ended this year's 27th Annual RAZZIE ceremonies with a montage of possible 2007 contenders, a chant of "GHOST RIDER! GHOST RIDER!" rose from the audience, suggesting that many of our members (and maybe some of the press in attendance) disagree with you about Cage's latest effort...

 



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Posted By: ITbeast
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 8:35am

After seeing Ghost Rider in Theatres I have to say the critics was just a tad hard on it. By no means will we see this in any major catagory's at the oscars's next year (Maybe special effects) but the film was actually very good. Nicolas Cage was not bad but should have been played by somebody just a little bit younger and more hair (They had a hair piece for him in the movie). It remained true to the comic series.

I've also heard the rumor that there getting ready to Green Light a second one as well, so stand by.



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 11:26am

It wasn't bad, but it could've been a lot better. I didn't like the villains, because htey feel too immature, like for the teens to enjoy and they don't feel serious. I hope the extended cut will improve the original cut. I have yet to see Elektra's Director's cut. I mean, these cuts sometimes make a difference if they're good or not.



Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 4:02pm

I feel in the case of Ghost Rider, the trailer was worse than the movie.  When I saw the trailers, it looked like the movie studios messed up another great comic book.  But, although the movie wasn't great, it was entertaining, a lot of fun, and kept much of the feel of the comic book in it. 



Posted By: dipitlow555
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 5:36am
Nicolas Cage - Worst Actor for GHOST RIDER and NEXT??? WORKS FOR ME!!!


Posted By: Criss808
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 3:37pm

For Your Consoderation - GHOST RIDER:  

WORST PICTURE

WORST DIRECTOR

WORST ACTOR (NIC CAGE)

WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS (EVA MENDEZ)

WORST ON-SCREEN COUPLE (NIC CAGE & EVA MENDEZ)

WORST SCREENPLAY

 



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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 1:45pm
I was watching this movie with my 16-year-old brother, and it wasn't really bad, but it wasn't really good at all. However, it was the first movie of 2007 to pass the $100 Million mark at the U.S. Box Office, finishing at $115.8 Million, and then it would be followed by 18 others as of now.


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 1:29pm

I liked it. I'll problably like "Next" as well. Much, much, much, much better than "Wicker Man".

Response from Head RAZZberry: Actually, I loved WICKER MAN, though admittedly for all the wrong reasons. When we showed the clip of Nicolas Cage in the bear suit beating up the lesbian Wickens, it got some of the biggest laughs in our ceremonies last Spring...

 



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

I liked it. I'll problably like "Next" as well. Much, much, much, much better than "Wicker Man".

Response from Head RAZZberry: Actually, I loved WICKER MAN, though admittedly for all the wrong reasons. When we showed the clip of Nicolas Cage in the bear suit beating up the lesbian Wickens, it got some of the biggest laughs in our ceremonies last Spring...

 

Those clips were funny.  Let's not forget, though, the clip of Cage whipping out a cel phone in the middle of the forest.    I WANT TO KNOW WHO HIS SERVICE PROVIDER IS!    Talk about a missed opportunity for product placement.    If he's gonna make a movie this bad, he might as well make a profit somehow. . . .



Posted By: Jack Spencer Jr
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 12:04pm
I have watched this flick recently and I can boil it down to four words:

"Comedy of the year"

Too bad it was supposed to be an action movie with horror overtones.

Seriously, who trained Mark Steven Johnson in how to establish tone, but he's piss-poor at it. Maybe he simply has contempt for super heroes. If so, then I wonder why he keeps making them. At least he doesn't have as much contempt for super heroes as Joel Schumacher and put nipples and a Prince Albert of the Ghost Rider or something.

Too bad Johnson didn't get the nod for writing and directing this crap, but Cage does deserve something for his work. He seemed like he was about to crack up while transforming.

But in the end, Ghost Rider suffers from being a character without any appeal whatsoever unless you're twelve and a bad ass dude with a flaming skull for a head floats your driftwood. For the rest of us, it's nearly impossible what direction they should have taken to make this thing better because just as an idea it's no good.


Posted By: movieman
Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 11:09am
They're making a Ghost Rider Too!!! But WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 12:39pm

Originally posted by movieman

They're making a Ghost Rider Two!!! But WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Ummmm ... money! Maybe Hollywood will grow a brain and have Christopher Nolan come in as a script doctor, because chances are the script is already flat-lining...

 



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Posted By: carlo
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 3:57am
hi --
it's a history forum?


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Posted By: Cytheria
Date Posted: June 13 2011 at 12:54am
Yeah, I agree.

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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: June 13 2011 at 1:12pm
They are making a sequel because the first one managed to make money. I also saw the first ghost-rider and I though it was okay, but I admit it was a little stupid.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 2:43pm
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