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Forum Name: BECAUSE I SAID SO
Forum Discription: Nominated for Worst Actress (Diane Keaton)
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1776
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Topic: Because Crix Say It’s Not Even SO-SO...
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Because Crix Say It’s Not Even SO-SO...
Date Posted: March 10 2007 at 7:27am

CURRENTLY RANKED AMONG http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/special/2007/wotw/ - RT's 100 WORST REVIEWED FILMS of ALL TIME , and HELMED by the RAZZIE "WINNING" DIRECTOR of http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Hudson+Hawk&btnG=Search+Razzies.com&domains=razzies.com&sitesearch=razzies.com - HUDSON HAWK , http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=184 - BECAUSE I SAID SO COULD EARN DIANE KEATON HER OWN RAZZIE to COUNTERPOINT THAT OSCAR SHE's ALREADY GOT on HER MANTLE.

BUT DON'T JUST TAKE OUR WORD for IT -- ADD YOUR OWN WORDS BELOW...

DIANE: "Okay -- What wise-ass made my daughter's wedding cake with GOLD icing and RAZZberry colored flowers? I don't think I like what it portends..."



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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 10 2007 at 10:58am

I thought that Diane KEATON was copying Jane Fonda's performance in 2005's "Monster-In-Law."

Response from Head RAZZberry: ...and Fonda was listed on that year's RAZZIE Nominating Ballot for Worst Actress -- Jennifer Lopez made the final five for MONSTER-IN-LAW, but I personally thought Fonda, being the more "reputable" of the two, deserved a RAZZing more... 



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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: March 11 2007 at 10:27am

Oh man, thank you Head RAZZ for adding this film on this forum. I guess it was that you did see that this film was on the list of RT's 100 Worst Reviewed Movies of ALL TIME. I have to say, tough break for Diane Keaton. Of course, she's been in other bad movies, like Town & Country -- and I'm sure that film did win a RAZZIE.

Response from Head RAZZberry: TOWN & COUNTRY was nominated for three 2001 RAZZIES, including Worst Director and Worst Supporting Actress (Goldie Hawn) and "won" one of them: Charlton Heston as Worst Supporting Actor (an Award given jointly for his performances in T&C, the awful remake of PLANET OF THE APES and his voice-over work on CATS & DOGS).



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: March 11 2007 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by tomsmo

I thought that Diane KEATON was copying Jane Fonda's performance in 2005's "Monster-In-Law."

That was my first thought when I saw the trailers.

I guess we can't go back in time and have a revote on Jane Fonda in Monster-In-Law, eh? 



Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: March 11 2007 at 4:59pm

Anyway, Head RAZZ, remember those 3 other actresses starring beside Diane Keaton, all 3 of them in the pic above? Laura Graham, Piper Perbo and Many Moore. Laura Graham will be in a new movie soon to come out called Evan Almighty. I know that's a Bruce Almighty Sequel with NO Jim Carrey. Now, it's Evan Baxter, returned to play that role is Steve Carell. Morgan Freeman reprises his role as God. Evan Almighty is about God contacting Baxter and tells him to build an ark in preparation for a great flood. It's like a reference to the story of Noah's Ark in the Bible. Piper Perabo has two other films coming out, one completed, called Ashes, and one still in production, called Carriers. Mandy Moore has a film called Dedication, which is still looking for a release date. She also has a film in-production, but will be in theaters July 4th calle License to Wed, with Robin Williams and John Krasinski.



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 11 2007 at 5:22pm
I guess when comes time to Razz them, we could list them as Worst Screen Couple: Diane Keaton, Laura Graham, Piper Perbo & Mandy Moore??

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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: March 12 2007 at 3:36am

Worst Screen Couple is only for two characters on screen together, so it would either be:

Diane Keaton and either Mandy Moore, Lauren Graham, or Piper Perabo.
                or         

Diane Keaton and any of her three on-screen daughters.



Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 12 2007 at 4:03am

Yea when comes to Worst Screen Couple, we do have And/Or, like when it came to The Wayans Brothers for Little Man, we had Shawn and Marlon and/or Kerry Washington.

Wow! Her proformance is not worthy of Razzie? Ms. Keaton must have been bad in this one! Maybe we could put it up for Worst Rip Off, if she's taking off Fonda's Monster-in-Law character...



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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: March 14 2007 at 9:53am

I think the Razzies have used the And/Or in the Worst Screen Couple category for quite some time, but I don't really know when the first time was...

Response from Head RAZZberry: I came up with Worst Screen Couple for The 15th Annual RAZZIES -- And that berry first year, Kevin Costner in WYATT EARP was nominated along with "any of his 3 wives" ( http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=344&PN=2 - LINK ). So technically, we've had "and/or" as an option ever since the category was first created...



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Posted By: tomsmo
Date Posted: March 16 2007 at 6:34am
Response To Head RAZZberry: I was wondering if we are allowed to give a Worst Rip-Off or Remake Razzie Nomination to a performance -- or does it have to be an actual movie? If we can give one to a person, I would recommend Diane Keaton, for ripping off Jane Fonda's Monster In Law character...

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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 6:32am
tomsmo, I think the Worst Remake or Rip-Off Razzie is for the titles of the films, not for the actors/actresses. Same thing for Worst Prequel or Sequel. As for Keaton, she should be a potential nominee for Worst Actress for 2007.

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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 6:41am

This movie has some references to like three other films, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049366/ - Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050658/ - Love in the Afternoon (1957), and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067093/ - Fiddler on the Roof (1971).

As for Micheal Lehmann, who "won" the Worst Director RAZZIE for http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102070/ - Hudson Hawk (1991), he's kept on directing. His "credits" include  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109068/ - Airheads (1994), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117979/ - The Truth About Cats & Dogs (1996), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120765/ - My Giant (1998), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243736/ - 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002), and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340494/ - Trash (2003) (a TV movie). He also has another film called http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462295/" target=_blank name=directorinp>Flakes , currently in-production.



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Posted By: tomsmobr
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 2:24pm
I thought http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243736/ - 40 Days and 40 Nights  was pretty good Movie.


Posted By: tomsmobr
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 2:35pm

I'm not sure if Keaton could be considered for The Worst Remake or Rip-Off... I guess a Worst Actress nomination will have to do.

Response from Head RAZZberry: It's a tad early in the year to be predicting with any confidence who our eventual nominees may be -- Though the guest critic on Ebert & Roeper & The Movies did call Diane Keaton's performance in BECAUSE I SAID SO "the worst of her long career."



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Posted By: wetbandit82
Date Posted: March 25 2007 at 1:45pm
This film shows one of the major flaws in many mainstream films these days, and it looks like they've paid for it by ending up in the red:  audiences will most of the time not like films featuring characters coldly scheming against each other and then yelling at the top of their lungs in each other's faces at Dramatically Sensitive Moments.  Just because the executives probably hate their parents (which explains a lot about their own habits, frankly) doesn't mean that your average moviegoer wants to see those feelings grafted onto every single piece of celluloid for their viewing displeasure.  Heartlessness on screen does not sell, period.   


Posted By: Brierfox
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 8:42am
People don't want to see the star of a movie playing a bad guy.  We all live in the real world and we simply don't like this kind of character being the star.   Remember Batman? Superman?  Critics loved the character of Lex Luxor and the Joker but the audience couldn't have cared less.  Yes, a good actor must play a bad person well in order to lend credence to the good guy.  But we don't want to see the bad guy win.

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Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 4:31pm
SPOILERS: When Daphne's daughters bring out her birthday cake, the candles on the lower half of the cake are not lit. When they set it on the table all the candles are lit.


Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 11:00am

TRIVIA: The names of the daughters (Maggie - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/ - Lauren Graham , Milly - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0601553/ - Mandy Moore , and Mae - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005305/ - Piper Perabo ) come from an e.e. cummings poem that starts "Maggie and Milly and Molly and May went to he beach to play one day."

The only name not in this movie is Molly, though.



Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 12:40am
Originally posted by bruin_522

The only name not in this movie is Molly, though.

Molly bolted?   Just as well.  From what I've seen and I've read, one more daughter wouldn't have improved this movie.  It just would have given us one more actress to consider for a Razzie. . . .



Posted By: tomsmobr
Date Posted: July 17 2007 at 2:11am
Rotten Tomatoes is giving out Their Mid Year Report Card. It's called The Best & The Worst So Far, and they have Because I Said So at number 1 with 5% you can read more at The Link Below. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/special/2007/midyeareport/ - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/special/2007/midyeare port/


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: July 17 2007 at 3:05pm
Yeah, but they don't list Epic Movie.  It's hard for me to take a list of this year's worst movies seriously if it doesn't include Epic Movie.  That was horrible.


Posted By: dipitlow555
Date Posted: July 18 2007 at 6:00am
How is "Nancy Drew" not on there either?


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Posted By: Criss808
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 6:40pm

Diane Keaton definitley gives her worst performance ever in this movie!!! She should be a contender this year for "WORST ACTRESS". Mandy Moore could get nominated for this and "License to Wed" in the "WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS" category as well.



Posted By: dipitlow555
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 4:54am
I still think Lauren Graham should get a "Worst Supporting Actress" nominee for  this and "Evan Almighty".


Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 2:34am

Mandy Moore was the lead in both movies, and probably the best part of both of them, too. She shouldn't be up for any Razzies.

Keaton, on the other hand... 

Originally posted by Criss808

Mandy Moore could get nominated for this and "License to Wed" in the "WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS" category as well.

Response from Head RAZZberry: Although Moore may wind up listed on our Nominating Ballot with both of these titles, my gut feeling is that there are far worse (and far likelier to be nominated) choices this year in both of our Actress categories -- Diane Keaton (whose work I usually admire) in this film is certainly among the worthier choices. 

 



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Posted By: dipitlow555
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 5:15am
That's what I've been saying! Glad to hear someone agrees.


Posted By: Criss808
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 3:30pm
I don't know which film is worse, "Because I Said So" or "Georgia Rule"...

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Posted By: dipitlow555
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 3:52am

I did enjoy them both, but I would have to say "Because I Said So" was worse... 

Originally posted by Criss808

I don't know which film is worse, "Because I Said So" or "Georgia Rule"...




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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:59pm
My sister-in-law said it was good, and she looked mad when I told her it was under Razzie consideration.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 8:42am

This is, by far, the worst film I've seen all year. It makes "Epic Movie" look like "Monty Python And The Holy Grail" and "Norbit" look like "Coming To America". It's that bad.

It's one of those films that you can't just bash and be over with... one of those films that you stew over for a few days, just thinking of bad things to say about it.



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Posted By: Criss808
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 2:31am

FYC - "Because I Said So"

WORST PICTURE

WORST DIRECTOR

WORST ACTRESS - Diane Keaton

WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS - Mandy Moore

WORST SCREENPLAY

WORST ON-SCREEN COUPLE - Diane Keaton & Mandy Moore



Posted By: Joan
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:08am

Dear Folks Posting in this Forum,

Please note this work was penned by the same lady who wrote Fred Claus, Jessie Nelson (I).  When Razzie nominating time comes about next week, I hope you will consider Ms. Nelson's contributions to the cinematic landscape in 2007.

PS She also wrote Stepmom and The Story of Us. Who is the honcho greenlighting these ditties?

 



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Posted By: wetbandit82
Date Posted: December 23 2007 at 2:29pm
For some reason, I'm thinking Joe Eszterhas, likely given that both he and she can't understand how real women think and act if their lives depended on it. 


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 10 2010 at 1:16pm
It had a few bad moments,and Diane Keaton's performance...wow!I think the director was so excited for workin'with her,but when he noticed the bad actin',he was afraid to speak up(like with Shirley MacLane's character in http://www.razzies.com/forum/bewitched_forum10.html - BEWITCHED ).She shouldn't have done SMOTHER the same year,that's another reason why both movies floped.
 
But all together,it's a good movie.
 
Whenever is on T.V.,I try to watch the scene where DAPHNE accidentally puts porn on her computer.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 10 2010 at 1:48pm
Yeah, but a good comedy can't rely solely on the one joke of an eldery woman discovering Internet porn. Other than that one joke, the rest of the movie is laugh-free.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 12 2010 at 1:55pm
You misunderstood me.That's the funniest part,and in order to be a funniest,there have to be others.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 13 2010 at 5:16am
Originally posted by Vits

You misunderstood me.That's the funniest part,and in order to be a funniest,there have to be others.
Yeah, but in some comedies, they have the funniest scene because it's the ONLY funny scene.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 13 2010 at 9:47am
Nevertheless,there are others in here:
1)MILLY and JASON walked on DAPHNE and JOE makin'out,and the "Parent-Child" roles reverse.
2)At the end,the cake falls on Tony Hale's character,who was a loser throughout the movie.
3)JASON's son asks MILLY if he can see his gina.
I could go on.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 10:46am
I made a list of the worst performances of all times:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/user/812172/blogs/?id=674392

Diane Keaton is in it.


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