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Forum Discription: Like a Bear Eating Its Own Foot When Caught in a Trap, Hollywood Keeps Devouring Itself for Profit...or, in This Case, NOT for Profit??
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Topic: Satire...Or Flat Tire???
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Satire...Or Flat Tire???
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 1:36am

IS IT JUST US, or IS THIS WHOLE TREND of MOVIES THAT ONLY REFERENCE OTHER MOVIES (AND USUALLY LAMELY) GETTING EVEN MORE OLD and TIRED THAN THE ROCKY PARODY SHOWN BELOW??

TO BE HONEST, WE WERE NEVER BIG FANS of THIS SUB-GENRE to BEGIN WITH: WE MAYBE CHUCKLED ONE-and-a-HALF TIMES DURING ANY of the SCARY MOVIE ENTRIES, and WERE OPENLY APPALLED by EPIC MOVIE EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND THIS ONE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE WORSE (IF THAT's EVEN POSSIBLE!).

NOW FEEL FREE to TAKE a JAB at IT YERSELF, BELOW...

Maybe It's Time for More Than Just Sly to Retire -- Like The Whole Movies-Making-Fun-of-Other-Movies Genre, Which So Totally Belongs on The Slag Heap of History!

 



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Posted By: Nasty Man
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 2:03am

Why don't they just release crap like this direct-to-video?? If anyone's dumb enough to pay movie theatre prices to see something as crummy-looking as this, I say they're getting what they deserve.

As for myself, I've had ENOUGH of these "movies that just make fun of movies" movies! I have yet to get even one genuine, good-sized laugh out of any of them!! 



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Posted By: wetbandit82
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 2:08am

Plus they often take too wide a field to go after with these things lately.  In their prime, the ZAZ team  were intelligent enough to narrow the focus down AND have at least some semblence of a serious story underneath the yuks. 

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 8:33am
I doubt this will be worse than "Epic Movie". Don't get me wrong, this movie looks like sh*t, but I doubt it will be as bad as Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedburg's unholy "epic". Actually, I have no promblem with parodies, just when they look awful. The only good parodies these days are from Edgar Wright...

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Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 2:42pm

This film's lack of having "two of the six directors of Scary Movie" is probably the only thing keeping this from being called "Sport Movie".

Considering the later Scary Movies, Date Movie, and Epic Movie (and eventually Fantasy Movie?), Sport Movie sounds like a more appropriate title.  It gives a better "warning" about what this is!

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

I doubt this will be worse than "Epic Movie". Don't get me wrong, this movie looks like sh*t, but I doubt it will be as bad as Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedburg's unholy "epic".



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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 9:10am
Head Razz, this looks as limp as a wet food stamp.



Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 11:44am

I like ________ Movies because they are supposed to be dumb and targeted toward teenagers. That's why I liked Date Movie and Epic Movie and many others didn't because they were probably adults. These are movies where you just turn off your brain so you can kill a few minutes. Now you can disagree me all you can, but why watch it when it's not the movie for you?

Response from Head RAZZberry: I get the "turn off your brain" part -- What I don't get is anyone (even with their brain turned off!) LAUGHING at this juvenile, un-original, pointless DRIVEL. Defending something dumb by saying it's "supposed to be dumb" still doesn't negate the fact that it IS dumb! 

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 12:34pm

I turned my brain off for "Date Movie" AND "Epic Movie" and I only laughed once! Considering that I'm the target audience, I should've been laughing, but I actually felt pain while watching these movies! Admittedly, the pain I felt during "Epic Movie" was minor, but the pain that struck me throughout "Date Movie" was major. "Date Movie" is in a class of movie pain almost by itself. There are only about 25 other films that cause me that much pain. And, yes, there are two Schumacher films among them: "8mm" and "Batman & Robin"! 

Response from Head RAZZberry: So now I get your sign-off line AND your Forum moniker. To your too short list of Schumacher's many cinematic sins, I would add INCREDIBLE SHRINKING WOMAN (a horrible waste of both a brilliant idea and a talented cast), ST. ELMO'S FIRE (a pretentious, RAZZIE "winning" Brat Pack "dramedy") DYING YOUNG and the execrable FLATLINERS (as irresponsible a mainstream movie as I've ever seen). BATMAN & ROBIN, by the way, was nominated for a near-record 10 RAZZIES, including Schumacher as Worst Director (Here's a http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=347&PN=1 - LINK to our list of 1997 nominees). And for a complete list of Schumacher's "credits," here's a http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001708/ - LINK to his IMDb page...

 



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by moviewizguy

These are movies where you just turn off your brain so you can kill a few minutes.

If you want to turn off your brain so you can kill a few minutes, watch Bad Boys II and Point Break.  That's what PC Butterman recommended to Nicholas Angel after Angel had been working in Sanford for awhile, and you know, it was the first time Angel could shut off his brain in his whole life.

And you want to know something else?  The entire paragraph above is taken from a great film released this year where you can turn off your brain, kill a few minutes and enjoy a hilarious movie all at once.  It would be time far more well spent than watching Bad Boys II, Point Break or especially any of the Scary/Epic/Date Movies.  And kids your age would love it, even with the accents.

Go rent Hot Fuzz, MWG. 

Response from Head RAZZberry: EXCELLENT suggestion -- HOT FUZZ is one of the few so-called "comedies" of 2007 at which I actually laughed loud and often! 

 

 

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 11:26pm

I've seen all the films Schumacher has made, except for "Dying Young" and Veronica Guerin".

Response from Head RAZZberry: So are you a completist of some kind, or a Schumacher Masochist??  DYING YOUNG, by the way, was one of the most shamelessly emotionally manipulative films I've ever seen... 

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

I turned my brain off for "Date Movie" AND "Epic Movie" and I only laughed once! Considering that I'm the target audience, I should've been laughing, but I actually felt pain while watching these movies! Admittedly, the pain I felt during "Epic Movie" was minor, but the pain that struck me throughout "Date Movie" was major. "Date Movie" is in a class of movie pain almost by itself. There are only about 25 other films that cause me that much pain. And, yes, there are two Schumacher films among them: "8mm" and "Batman & Robin"! 

Response from Head RAZZberry: So now I get your sign-off line AND your Forum moniker. To your too short list of Schumacher's many cinematic sins, I would add INCREDIBLE SHRINKING WOMAN (a horrible waste of both a brilliant idea and a talented cast), ST. ELMO'S FIRE (a pretentious, RAZZIE "winning" Brat Pack "dramedy") DYING YOUNG and the execrable FLATLINERS (as irresponsible a mainstream movie as I've ever seen). BATMAN & ROBIN, by the way, was nominated for a near-record 10 RAZZIES, including Schumacher as Worst Director (Here's a http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=347&PN=1 - LINK to our list of 1997 nominees). And for a complete list of Schumacher's "credits," here's a http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001708/ - LINK to his IMDb page...

 

                                                                                             

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 7:39am

Guess I'm more of a completist: I figure if I'm gonna hate a director, I might as well make sure that most of his movies actually do suck...

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 9:27am
This just in: this piece of crap had a 0% at RottenTomatoes. Entertainment Weekly better not give this a positive review. They're the sole reason "Epic Movie" isn't in 0% score (or, as I like to call it, Sgt. Tomatoe's Zero Score Band).

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 10:42am
I would rather buy Hot Fuzz (there will be a 3-disc set!) because I absolutely loved Shaun of the Dead, although I expected it to be funnier.


Posted By: Criss808
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 1:39pm

OMG! When the hell will they stop making these terrible spoof movies? The spoof genre is dead!!! They're not funny anymore!!!

 



Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 2:10pm

There's hope for moviewizguy yet!   

Originally posted by moviewizguy

I would rather buy Hot Fuzz (there will be a 3-disc set!) because I absolutely loved Shaun of the Dead, although I expected it to be funnier.

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 7:12am
This just in, "The Comebacks" bombed with 5th place. Also, "Rendition", which looked good, came in 9th and bombed with the critics with only 43%.

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Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 9:52am

Why is Hollywood is still allowing these crappy spoofs in the theater! And it gets worse next year, as more crappy spoofs are in the works, such as Date Movie 2 and Meet the Spartans (South Park and You-Tube already went through with those 300 spoofs). Both are being directed by Aaron "I suck" Selzter!

BTW, Hot Fuzz was a good movie (though I wished there were more action sequences). 


 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:16am

On another site, I posted a list of http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dls?iid=7-3793034&lid=255-97698 - Movies That Were PAINFUL . Click on the  http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dls?iid=7-3793034&lid=255-97698 - LINK to see my complete list...

 



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 2:36pm
I can tell you 2 spoof movies (hopefully) to be released next year by the ZAZ team: Superhero! (pretty much self-explanatory) and Scary Movie 5 (surprise, surprise). I'm psyced for both!


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 2:39pm
And I thought people loved Inland Empire...


Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 4:54pm

There is one positive review now, but from the Boston Globe, not EW... 

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

This just in: this piece of crap had a 0% at RottenTomatoes. Entertainment Weekly better not give this a positive review. They're the sole reason "Epic Movie" isn't in 0% score (or, as I like to call it, Sgt. Tomatoe's Zero Score Band).

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 1:25am

Some people loved Inland Empire, others (like me and my parents) HATED it! It's impossible to follow... 

Originally posted by moviewizguy

And I thought people loved Inland Empire...
                                                                                             



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 7:50am
Oh, I was thinking Isle of Eliah (if thats' how you spell or name it)


Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 8:31am
Originally posted by Berrynoia

There is one positive review now, but from the Boston Globe, not EW... 


The Cream of the Crop at RT nows says 17%, which makes it even higher than Epic Movie


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 9:46am

That's only because of Wesley Morris of the Boston Globe, the only movie critic, Cream of the Crop or otherwise, to give The Comebacks a positive review out of the fourteen movie critics who reviewed this movie so far.

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

Originally posted by Berrynoia

There is one positive review now, but from the Boston Globe, not EW... 


The Cream of the Crop at RT nows says 17%, which makes it even higher than Epic Movie


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:21am

It's "In The Valley Of Elah". "Inland Empire" was directed by David Lynch, and I have no f*cking idea what it's about. If anyone has seen it, they will know what I mean.

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Oh, I was thinking Isle of Eliah (if thats' how you spell or name it)
                                                              



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 2:38pm
I saw Hot Fuzz and it was funnier than Shaun of the Dead. I love it but the reason is not because it was funny, but because it was a great buddy action flick.


Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:51am
Wow, with all this talk about Hot Fuzz and David Lynch, this is starting to look like "The Reaping" thread.

To get back on topic, did anyone see this movie yet?


Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:28am

I was just about to post this same thought. The duo who made Date Movie and Epic Movie are at it again! I really want to go punch the person who keeps giving them funding.

Because the horrible Date Movie was almost totally ignored by the Razzies last year, I really hope that Epic Movie and The Comebacks dominate the Razzies this year (and 'Meet the Spartans' dominates next year). 

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

Why is Hollywood is still allowing these crappy spoofs in the theater! And it gets worse next year, as more crappy spoofs are in the works, such as Date Movie 2 and Meet the Spartans (South Park and You-Tube already went through with those 300 spoofs). Both are being directed by Aaron "I suck" Selzter! 

 



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 11:37am
Epic Movie was funny so it can't be "dominant". I'm sure there is one other bad movie out there.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 1:53pm

Epic Movie is still the worst movie I've seen this year.

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Epic Movie was funny so it can't be "dominant". I'm sure there is one other bad movie out there.



Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 11:50am

Here's my list of ratings on all 2007 movies I've seen:

  1. Bridge to Terabithia: 10/10
  2. 300: 10/10
  3. Hairspray: 9/10
  4. Grindhouse: 9/10
  5. Live Free or Die Hard: 9/10
  6. The Bourne Ultimatum: 9/10
  7. Vacancy: 9/10
  8. Stardust: 9/10
  9. Hot Fuzz: 9/10
  10. The Simpsons Movie: 9/10
  11. Knocked Up: 8/10
  12. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix: 8/10
  13. Spider-Man 3: 8/10
  14. The Invasion: 8/10
  15. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer: 8/10
  16. 1408: 8/10
  17. Halloween (2007): 8/10
  18. What Noise: The Light: 7/10
  19. Disturbia: 7/10
  20. Sunshine: 7/10
  21. Shoot ‘Em Up: 7/10
  22. 30 Days of Nights: 7/10
  23. The Messengers: 7/10
  24. Transformers: 7/10
  25. Epic Movie: 7/10
  26. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End: 7/10
  27. Georgia Rule: 6/10
  28. Shrek the Third: 6/10
  29. Happily N'ever After: 6/10
  30. The Reaping: 5/10
  31. The Hitcher: 3/10
  32. Norbit: 2/10

As you can see, I especially hated Norbit and The Hitcher... 

 



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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 4:52pm

IMHO, for satire to be really effective, the writers have to have the courage, and capability, of taking on something that deserves to be sliced down a notch or two. The reason that movies like The Comebacks and Epic Movie fail so miserably is that their targets are already, by and large, crap to begin with.

It's a little like trying to create a satirical parody demonstrating the monumental idiocy of George W. Bush. No matter how hard you try to slice the guy down, he is going to do something even stupider than your most vicious satirical slam within 48 hours.



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Posted By: tvdvd
Date Posted: November 08 2007 at 6:06am
I used to love parody and satire movies, but all of them these days are beyond lame, not the least bit unique and they are filled with toilet humor that only a 12 year old boy would appreciate.  I love sports films so thought this movie would be a funny tribute to such films.  Boy was I wrong.  The writing was lame and the acting was terrible.  These people should do society a favor and never act again


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 1:47pm
I, finally, saw "Dying Young". Wow, what a steaming pile of dog mailto:s#@t - s#@t . It only avoids being Schumacher's worst film because "Batman & Robin" exists. Also, saw "Veronica Guerin", crap, but not as bad as Schumacher's other movies.

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