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Category: 2007 RAZZIE® MOVIE FORUMS w/LYNX!
Forum Name: MR. MAGORIUM's WONDER EMPORIUM
Forum Discription: Has Dustin Hoffman Finally Given a RAZZIE® Worthy Performance??
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2276
Printed Date: October 24 2014 at 1:52am


Topic: So Cute, We Bet You’ll PUKE!
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: So Cute, We Bet You’ll PUKE!
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 6:28am

WHEN WHIMSY IS HANDLED WITH ALL the SUBTLETY of a FRYING PAN to the FACE, WE RUN in the OTHER DIRECTION.

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=236&PN=1 - MR. MAGORIUM's WONDER EMPORIUM SADLY PERSONIFIES THE KIND of CUTSIE-PIE "FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT" THAT SO IRKSOMELY RAISES ITS HOMELY HEAD EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME. AND ITS CENTRAL PERFORMANCES -- BY a LISPING DUSTIN HOFFMAN and a WIDE-EYED (BUT DEAD-INSIDE) NATALIE PORTMAN -- MAY BOTH BE RAZZIE® CONTENDERS COME JANUARY... 

NOT a BIG FAN of CRUMMY CHRISTMAS-TIME KIDDY COMEDIES EITHER?? FEEL FREE to VENT YER WRATH BELOW...

Portman: "Oh, my God, Mister Hoffman!! Did you know that when you fart, your hair stands on end?!?"



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Posted By: Nasty Man
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 6:57am

I am curious: How did Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty, who were both as much to blame as anybody for the world-class awfulness of "Ishtar," manage to get off scott-free?? When I checked, neither of them were Worst Actor nominees for that famously failed film...

Response from Head RAZZberry: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093278/awards - ISHTAR was nominated for Worst Picture and Worst Screenplay, and actually "won" as Worst Director (Elaine May, who tied with the late Norman Mailer for the equally awful http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094169/awards - TOUGH GIZE DON'T DANCE ). As for Dustin and Warren not being nominated, I'm fairly sure we had them both listed as possible Worst Actor choices on our Nominating Ballot for 1987, but they somehow escaped our voters' wrath... 

 



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 8:04am

I'm one of the few people who liked Toys.  Okay, okay, put down the stones and tomatoes, I know, I know, but I still liked it.

I brought that up because the second I saw the trailer for Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium, I felt like this was similar to Toys, except with Toys you had an underlying political theme of war versus peace.  The only underlying theme this movie has is to discover who you really are, which Toys already had.

So, I figured if most people hated Toys, how are they going to feel about a movie that's only half of Toys?

It's looking like my hunch is right.

I haven't seen this yet, and I may be totally off base, but I'm guessing that's the problem.  If it didn't work the first time around, why the hell did they think it would work the second time?

What was it that I said about regurgitation and rumination in another thread?  That it possibly only tastes good the first time around?  Kinda like Jon Voight in Anaconda? . . .



Posted By: tomsmobr
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 11:49am

I'm Glad The Head RAZZberry picked up also on MR. MAGORIUM character being a take off of Willy Wonka

Response from Head RAZZberry: I think instead of "take-off" you may actually have meant "rip-off"...



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Posted By: wetbandit82
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 12:51pm

"So if you have any questions, dial information, thank you for calling." 

 

I don't want to know how the hair stylist came up with Hoffman's look here.  He looks like he ran into a pack of zombies while standing next to a nuclear power plant. 

And how in the world did they dupe Kermit the Frog of all people to take a part in it?  You'll think he would certainly know better than to jump into this kind of shallow pond.  Then again, times have been comparatively tough for him lately too, so may he's eager to get Robin a load of Xmas gifts with the cameo cash...   



Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 5:00pm

I mentioned in another thread that we went to the premier of this movie last Saturday, and I wasn't impressed by it. The movie is not particularly memorable, and Hoffman's performance is downright embarrassing. The only good thing I can say about it is that I really didn't pay anything to see it. They were giving two free tickets to anyone who brought a new toy to the event. All the toys were donated to Toys for Tots. Evidently, this movie will be used as a vehicle to collect toys for that very worthy charity in several large markets. For that reason I hesitate to smack it down too badly. But Hoffman definitely deserves consideration for Worst Actor.

I actually didn't think Portman was all that bad, I think she was just struggling along with a very poorly written role. There probably isn't an actress in Hollywood that would have come off looking good with what she had to work with in this film. Then again, nobody is going to come out of this one looking good.



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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 7:47pm
Is Dustin Hoffman auditioning for the role of Dr. Who? I thought that role
was filled


Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 12:06pm
Fatalie Porkman makes me PUKE PUKE PUKE! Completely talent- and intelligence-free zone. People should stop casting her.



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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 9:43am

Just when I was wrapping my head around two time Oscar winner Dustin Hoffman, and Oscar nominee (And multi-time Razzie nominee) Natalie Portman being in this, I find myself wondering why in God's name Kermit the Frog would be in this? This is a dark day for Muppet fans everywhere. What's next Gonzo appearing in a Michael Bay film? Miss Piggie signing a three picture deal with Uwe Boll?! I always knew the Muppets had hands up their arse, but I never thought their heads would be there too.

Excuse me while I weep. 

 



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Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 4:33am

Because Kermit's a far better actor than Notalent Portman... 

Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Just when I was wrapping my head around two time Oscar winner Dustin Hoffman, and Oscar nominee (And multi-time Razzie nominee) Natalie Portman being in this, I find myself wondering why in God's name Kermit the Frog would be in this? (...) 
 



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Posted By: tomsmobr
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 9:11am
Originally posted by tomsmobr

I'm Glad The Head RAZZberry picked up also on MR. MAGORIUM character being a take off of Willy Wonka

Response from Head RAZZberry: I think instead of "take-off" you may actually have meant "rip-off"...

Actually Headrazz you might be right on The Willy Wonka ripoff some one also mentioned a ripoff of Dr. Who.


Posted By: Bombbot
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 6:42pm

Kermit, of all people, turns up in THIS?

Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave... Along with Dustin Hoffman's pride!



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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 29 2007 at 9:23am

Kermit does indeed make a brief cameo appearance. 

Originally posted by Bombbot

Kermit, of all people, turns up in THIS?

Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave... Along with Dustin Hoffman's pride!

 



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Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 1:46am
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Kermit does indeed make a brief cameo appearance. 

Originally posted by Bombbot

Kermit, of all people, turns up in THIS?

Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave... Along with Dustin Hoffman's pride!

 



Notalent Portman had no pride to begin with. How else do I explain her "career"?


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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 9:30am
Call me crazy, but for some reason I'm picking up subtle hints that Queen of Toad doesn't like Natalie Portman.


Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 4:20am
Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Call me crazy, but for some reason I'm picking up subtle hints that Queen of Toad doesn't like Natalie Portman.

Oh, sh*t, no! What made you think so????


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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 7:43am

Tomsmobr, please lighten up about "rip-offs." On almost every thread, you mention that some aspect of the film is a rip-off of another film. There are so many recycled ideas in the film industry that we don't need to make a case of it every time, much less make a case out of similar ideas movies share.

Response from Head RAZZberry: Actually, if you read his post, tomsmobr referred to Mr. Magorium as "a take-off of Willy Wonka." It was me who used the phrade "rip-off":

Originally posted by tomsmobr

I'm Glad The Head RAZZberry picked up also on MR. MAGORIUM character being a take off of Willy Wonka

Response from Head RAZZberry: I think instead of "take-off" you may actually have meant "rip-off"...

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 1:22pm

I was watching a better movie starring Kermit the other day. That was "Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas". My 3 year old nephew Jim-Jim really liked it. Nice to see little kids liking classics.

Originally posted by Bombbot

Kermit, of all people, turns up in THIS?

Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave... Along with Dustin Hoffman's pride!

                                                                                                     

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Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 12:04pm

I agree here, the number of good stories is limited. If you look at literature, there are so many good novels that are either "rip-offs" of the Bible or Classic (old Greek and Roman) literature. I don't find that necessarily bad. I mean does being a "rip-off" make "The Great Gatsby" a bad novel? Or "Life of Brian" a bad film?
What matters is how well the story itself is narrated, and this is actually where the variety lies. Literatary scholars will tell you that the most important stories have already been told. I am no scholar in this field, therefore I prefer to accept this opinion...   

Originally posted by jb razz

Tomsmobr, please lighten up about "rip-offs." On almost every thread, you mention that some aspect of the film is a rip-off of another film. There are so many recycled ideas in the film industry that we don't need to make a case of it every time, much less make a case out of similar ideas movies share.





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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 2:29am
Thank you, Queen_of_Toad. Someone finally agrees with me.


Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 1:47pm
Dustin Hoffman was the best part of HOOK, one of Steven Spielberg's weakest films, better than Robin Williams, Julia Roberts (Worst Supporting Actress RAZZIE nominee for that movie back in 1991) and Bob Hoskins. And now Dustin Hoffman in another bad movie with a past RAZZIE nominee? Yep, that's right there.


Posted By: #1-Movie-Fan!
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 4:57am

I loved that you guys listed "Dustin Hoffman & Don King's Hair" as a Worst Screen Couple choice on the nominating ballot! But the choices this year are hard to narrow to just five picks in many categories -- Whatta "Berry" Rotten Year 2007 was at the movies!!

 



Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 5:08am

I've gotta give credit where credit is due -- Hoffman and his "Don King hair" as a Screen Couple choice was submitted on this Forum by saturnwatcher, and I found it SO amusing that I added it to our Nominating Ballot just moments before taking it to the printer...



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 2:19pm
This needs to be moved back to the 2007 titles.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 12:09pm
Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?I don't know.It all relies on the way he talked(a mix of BULLWINKLE and Jim Carrey in CABLE GUY),but whoever actor was casted had to talk that way.
 
I didn't know there could be a bad cameo,but there was one here.Kermit The Frog?!It made no sense!
 
The only reason I watch this was'cuz it was written and directed by Zach Helm,who also wrote my favorite dramedy:STRANGER THAN FICTION.You can actually notice his trademarks:The reference to KING LEAR and the chapter description was all about analyzin'literature.Also,the tide-ass non-believer who falls for the simplistic girl...B.T.W.,how come those 2 didn't end up together?
 
I guess people were right when they called him "the next Charlie Kauffman":They both failed on their directorial debuts.And that's because this guys are genious of writing fiction,but not on filmmaking itself.
 
Would you say Zach Helm is a sell-out?I mean,he went from writing a clever script that broke reality,to writing this kiddie script that couldn't be more predictable.


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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 8:47pm
Originally posted by Vits

Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?
Yes. We saw this film because the World Premier was in Denver. It was released close to Christmas, and free admission was offered to anyone who brought a new toy for donation to Toys For Tots. So we went. I'd give 100 toys to Toys For Tots if they could give me back the  hour and a half of my life I blew on this film.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 8:20am
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Originally posted by Vits

Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?
Yes. We saw this film because the World Premier was in Denver. It was released close to Christmas, and free admission was offered to anyone who brought a new toy for donation to Toys For Tots. So we went. I'd give 100 toys to Toys For Tots if they could give me back the  hour and a half of my life I blew on this film.
And you know it's a Razzie movie when it makes Saturnwatcher want to take back his donations!

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 8:48am
Actually,I just checked.MR. MAGORIUM's way of talk and how he looked was all created by Dustin Hoffman.So it was a bad performance.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 9:12am
Originally posted by Vits

Actually,I just checked.MR. MAGORIUM's way of talk and how he looked was all created by Dustin Hoffman.So it was a bad performance.
Overall, it was just a rip-off of Willy Wonka anyway.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Vits

The only reason I watch this was'cuz it was written and directed by Zach Helm,who also wrote my favorite dramedy:STRANGER THAN FICTION.You can actually notice his trademarks:The reference to KING LEAR and the chapter description was all about analyzin'literature.Also,the tide-ass non-believer who falls for the simplistic girl...B.T.W.,how come those 2 didn't end up together?
 
I just checked:There's a deleted scene in which they kiss.Well,it wouldn't have changed the fact that the ending was too abrupt.
 
Originally posted by Vits

Would you say Zach Helm is a sell-out?I mean,he went from writing a clever script that broke reality,to writing this kiddie script that couldn't be more predictable.
 
Well...?


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 8:59pm
Well, it doesn't really matter, it wasn't up for any Razzies and it's all but forgotten by audiences.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 05 2011 at 12:39pm
I give this 3/10.

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