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Forum Discription: Nominated for 2 RAZZIES® including Worst Actress (Jessica Alba)
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Topic: See If You Can Stay AWAKE to the End...
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: See If You Can Stay AWAKE to the End...
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 2:46am

IT STARS RAZZIE® "WINNER" http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Hayden+Christensen&btnG=Search+Razzies.com&domains=razzies.com&sitesearch=razzies.com - HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN (of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/ - I WAS A TEEN-AGED DARTH VADER SHAME) and FORMER WORST ACTRESS NOMINEE http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&domains=razzies.com&q=Jessica+Alba&btnG=Search&sitesearch=razzies.com - JESSICA ALBA . IT WASN'T PRE-SCREENED for MOST of AMERICA'S FILM CRITICS. AND INDUSTRY RUMOR SEZ IT TURNED OUT SO WELL THAT THE WEINSTEIN BROTHERS TRIED to SELL IT to the HIGHEST BIDDER, RATHER THAN GET STUCK RELEASING IT...

SOUNDS LIKE a RAZZIE® CONTENDER to US. BUT THEN, SITTING THRU IT LEFT US BARELY http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=239 - AWAKE ...

Who'd Have Ever Guessed Lil Darth Vader Would Wind Up Married to Sue Storm??



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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 5:43am

Alba is a shoo in get a Razzie nomination this year, since she's been in three movies that have gotten Razzie attention: FF2/Silver Surfer, Good Luck Chuck, and Awake. As I mentioned earlier this year, this is quite a year for Alba in terms of her number of movies, and it will probably be quite a year for her in terms of Razzies as well.

Alba is also starring in a remake of The Eye, which has been pushed back to next year. And she is currently filming the sure-to-be-lame Mike Meyers comedy The Love Guru...

 



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 9:46am
This looks interesting. Heard okay things to very bad things for this movie. Joblo had a 0/10 and a 2.5/4...which one to agree with?


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 2:26pm
One review said that he expected Hayden to "complain about Obi-Wan and the other Jedi holding him back". He, also, wonders if "revered romance writer George Lucas was brought in to pen the love scenes".

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 3:39pm

I have to wonder, what are Terrence Howard and Lena Olin doing in this movie?  I gotta wonder if this is another Oscar Baiter gone wrong.

 



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 3:25am
Ok, so reading from the reviews, people didn't like it was "this would never happen!" types of movies. People whom actually liked it was people who had suspended their beliefs (like joblo, comingsoon, and Richard Roeper) actually thought it was okay and decent. They went along with it and thought it was okay.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 4:16am

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Ok, so reading from the reviews, people didn't like it was "this would never happen!" types of movies.

SPOILER

So, you wouldn't have a problem going along with a premise that three surgeons are bought off by the wife to kill the husband during a heart surgery, and he not only survives, but is anesthetically aware during the surgery to the point where he overhears the murder plot?

The worst point is, if three surgeons wanted to kill their patient during surgery, the patient would be dead.  Any other outcome would not be easy to go along with.

Mind you, I woke up during angioplasty.  I tried twice to sit up and see the monitor, and they kept putting me back down.  Then I woke up again, and they were transferring me to another room because the room where they were performing the surgery lost power.  I thought I dreamed the whole thing because I was flying higher than a kite.  But after the procedure, one of the nurses mentioned something, and I blurted out, "It really did happen?"  I later apologized to my cardiologist for sitting up during the procedure, not that I was in my right frame of mind at the time. 

So, I don't have any problem believing what happened to Christensen's character, having experienced something akin to that, although I obviously wasn't paralyzed nor fully aware.  I just have a problem with the premise.  It would take some pretty convincing acting AND a solid, acceptable plot twist to keep me engaged.  And from the reviews I read, Christensen and Alba are not convincing.

 



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 4:20am

Terrance Howard is in this? First August Rush, now this!? OY! I always liked Lena Olin...shame about her being in this, too.

 



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 10:46am

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0005024/ - Terrence Howard has appeared in four movies that I know of this year, and the best one of the bunch has been The Brave One.  I liked that movie, but I know most people didn't.  I'm not sure what's happening here, because after Crash, Ray, Hustle & Flow and Four Brothers, it doesn't appear he's been picking them very well.  I still like his acting, but I'd like it better if he was in something better than Pride, August Rush or Awake.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000565/ - Lena Olin was tremendous in The Unbearable Lightness of Being.  After reading several reviews of Awake, she's apparently the main reason to watch this film.

Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Terrance Howard is in this? First August Rush, now this!? OY! I always liked Lena Olin...shame about her being in this, too.



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 11:06am
The critics are indeed singling out Christensen and Alba. One critic said if the leads had been played by better actors it'd be a great movie, as it is, he just thought it was "ok". I tried defending Christensen when I was younger for his work in Attack of The Clones. After watching Revenge of the Sith and rewatching Attack of the clones, yeah, he pretty much deserved the pounding he took from critics and razzie voters alike. As for the lovely Miss Alba, she should be leading the campaign for Robert Rodriguez to make Sin City 2 ASAP. That was the only film I've seen her in that I'd describe as "good".


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 1:56pm
Robert Rodriguez is busy screwing around with that "Barbarella" remake. Screw "Barbarella", make "Sin City 2" already. You can cast Rose in there.

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Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 1:35am
Is this a Gayden Crystalmeth I see on this picture? Do I see THAT name mentioned in connection with a new film? 

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 4:11am

He's the protagonist.  You're supposed to hope he survives the surgery, and gives his wife and doctor their comeuppance.

Maybe this movie needs to be put to sleep?   

Originally posted by Queen_of_Toad

Is this a Gayden Crystalmeth I see on this picture? Do I see THAT name mentioned in connection with a new film? 

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 5:43am

I don't know why, but I hated "The Brave One". Don't know why, just do.    

Originally posted by cvcjr13

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0005024/ - Terrence Howard has appeared in four movies that I know of this year, and the best one of the bunch has been The Brave One.  I liked that movie, but I know most people didn't.  I'm not sure what's happening here, because after Crash, Ray, Hustle & Flow and Four Brothers, it doesn't appear he's been picking them very well.  I still like his acting, but I'd like it better if he was in something better than Pride, August Rush or Awake.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000565/ - Lena Olin was tremendous in The Unbearable Lightness of Being.  After reading several reviews of Awake, she's apparently the main reason to watch this film.

Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Terrance Howard is in this? First August Rush, now this!? OY! I always liked Lena Olin...shame about her being in this, too.

                                                                                               

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 3:37pm

You'll find more company hating it that I will liking it. 

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter


                                                                                                I don't know why, but I hated "The Brave One". Don't know why, just do.

 

 



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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 2:54am

I doubt anyone would see this just to watch Lena Olin, unless the person was obsessed with her...   

Originally posted by cvcjr13

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000565/ - Lena Olin was tremendous in The Unbearable Lightness of Being.  After reading several reviews of Awake, she's apparently the main reason to watch this film.




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Posted By: jb razz
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 2:58am

Or maybe both of them have made a very bad movie choice? Many talented actors do that, you know... 

Originally posted by cvcjr13

I have to wonder, what are Terrence Howard and Lena
Olin doing in this movie?  I gotta wonder if this is another Oscar Baiter gone
wrong.



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 8:24am
Everyone makes mistakes. Although, to be far, this isn't the worst film with the best cast. That belongs to "Evening". Not just because "Evening" had a better cast, but "Evening" was, proplably, worse. I haven't seen this yet.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:01pm

Cool! Roger Ebert actually liked this movie: Here's a http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071130/REVIEWS/71130001/1023 - LINK to read his review. Yes, he suspended his disbelief, and says it doesn't matter if it's perposterous...the movie actually works. 

 



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Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 11:58am

My major problem with this film would be that I, as an audience, am supposed to hope that Gayden survives.

What were the producers thinking??? 

Originally posted by cvcjr13

So, you wouldn't have a problem going along with a premise that three surgeons are bought off by the wife to kill the husband during a heart surgery, and he not only survives, but is anesthetically aware during the surgery to the point where he overhears the murder plot?

The worst point is, if three surgeons wanted to kill their patient during surgery, the patient would be dead.  Any other outcome would not be easy to go along with.

Mind you, I woke up during angioplasty.  I tried twice to sit up and see the monitor, and they kept putting me back down.  Then I woke up again, and they were transferring me to another room because the room where they were performing the surgery lost power.  I thought I dreamed the whole thing because I was flying higher than a kite.  But after the procedure, one of the nurses mentioned something, and I blurted out, "It really did happen?"  I later apologized to my cardiologist for sitting up during the procedure, not that I was in my right frame of mind at the time. 

So, I don't have any problem believing what happened to Christensen's character, having experienced something akin to that, although I obviously wasn't paralyzed nor fully aware.  I just have a problem with the premise.  It would take some pretty convincing acting AND a solid, acceptable plot twist to keep me engaged.  And from the reviews I read, Christensen and Alba are not convincing.





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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 12:33pm

Queen of Toad, I'm just gonna wing it and guess that your favorite part of "Revenge Of The Sith" was when Gayden Christianf*g got dismembered, then lit on fire?!? 

 



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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 2:42pm
Or when Natalie Portman died.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 3:39pm

I think we could cover both scenes in the last 20 minutes of Sith.  I wonder if that's too long to post on YouTube? . . .



Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 1:40pm
Once again Wizguy, we all respect Roger Ebert, and he has given some great reviews, but he's not the be-all, end-all, as far as movie opinions are concerned. The man has admitted that one of his favorite actresses is Jennifer Lopez...........JENNIFER LOPEZ! Two and a half stars to Gigli, one star to Blue Velvet, oy.


Posted By: Queen_of_Toad
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Queen of Toad, I'm just gonna wing it and guess that your favorite part of "Revenge Of The Sith" was when Gayden Christianf*g got dismembered, then lit on fire?!? 

 


Nah. That was haydensucks' favourite moment.

Just a little off-topic here and I know I am going to get bashed here and some will say that I lose my legitimacy to ever attend this forum again, however, I liked "Revenge of the Sith". I liked the production design (or whatever you call it when it's CG), I liked the music and I thought that Evan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid did a good job. But some other elements were unforgivable, like bad monologues and some other things that don't need to be mentioned. But the movie itself was beautiful to look at. And, of course, I adore John Williams' music.

Back to topic again. Now, does Gayden suck badly or just suck this time?


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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 6:48am
 Ewan McGregor and Ian Mcdiarmid were both good in Revenge of The Sith, in my opinion also.


Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 4:06am

Roger Ebert is just one critic. Plus, Ebert gave "The Number 23" and "Redacted" positive reviews.    

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Cool! Roger Ebert actually liked this movie: Here's a http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071130/REVIEWS/71130001/1023 - LINK to read his review. Yes, he suspended his disbelief, and says it doesn't matter if it's preposterous...the movie actually works. 




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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:17am

Actually, Ebert never reviewed "The Number 23" (directed by my nemisis). Roeper did and, for some reason, liked it. 

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

Roger Ebert is just one critic. Plus, Ebert gave "The Number 23" and "Redacted" positive reviews.    

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Cool! Roger Ebert actually liked this movie: Here's a http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071130/REVIEWS/71130001/1023 - LINK to read his review. Yes, he suspended his disbelief, and says it doesn't matter if it's preposterous...the movie actually works. 




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Posted By: Mrs. Magnatech
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 8:24pm

Jessica Alba deserves some sort of special achievement prize for giving three Razzie-worthy performances in one year!

 



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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 1:46am
Don't worry, Mizz Alba will certainly be listed for her three "efforts" on our 2007 Nominating Ballot, which will be mailed December 28. You'll have to wait 'till January 21 to find out if she's made The Golden (RAZZIE®) Inner Circle, though! 

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Posted By: Sanndman228715
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 1:51pm

Well apparently, the lovely Miss Alba is pregnant, there goes her greatest "strength" as an "actress" (her body). Bloody hell, now it really is going to be a while before Sin City 2 gets made! 

Response from Head RAZZberry: Unless they replace Alba with any of the 237 blonde bimbos with whom she's arguably interchangeable...and/or re-write her character as being pregnant (which is unlikely with the WGA Strike looking like it might last 'till NEXT Christmas)! 

 



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 3:28am

The first "Sin City" didn't use any writers. Robert Rodriguez used the graphic novel as a template and adapted it all from there.



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 4:27am

HeadRAZZberry, how good is your memory?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike - The last time we had a writers' strike in 1988 (almost 20 years ago?!), the studios piled up a bunch of scripts just like they did with this one.  It lasted 22 months.  Did the Razzies have an unusal number of bad movies to mull through during the two years after that strike begun, 1989 and 1990?  And how did 1991, the year after the strike was over, compare?

 



Posted By: bruin_522
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 1:50pm
You know if haydensucks is here right now, he would definitely enjoy pwning Hayden right now, as we all would. Hayden Christensen, a Worst Actor RAZZIE nominee? I'm in right there.


Posted By: Racehorse
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 12:14pm
I actually paid money to see this movie in the theater.  Didn't have a problem with any of the actors.  Christensen and Alba did their job just fine.  I was a little disappointed in the script however.  I think that Joby Harold (Director and Script Writer) missed a lot of opportunities and it could have been a much much better movie. 

Although it got an RT rating of 17%, the RT users gave it a 64%.  My rating would be closer to the 64 than the 17.


Posted By: #1-Film Freak!!
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 4:54am

Are you kidding??  Alba and Christensen both stank, the movie was boring as Hell, and the plot was so improbable it was ridiculous.

You'd actually give this a 64%?  What would you consider to be a BAD movie, then??

 



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Posted By: Racehorse
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 2:42am

I reserve my "worst" ratings for movies like Super Babies Baby Genius 2, Corky  Romano, Son of the Mask, and Battlefield Earth.

Response from Head RAZZberry: Worthy worst choices -- 75% of 'em were either RAZZIE nominees or "winners." Only CORKY ROMANO managed to escape The Wrath of the RAZZIES...possibly because you're one of only 17 people who even saw it! 

 



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Posted By: Racehorse
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 2:02pm

Well then, I guess Chris Kattan owes me a beer. (and a refund)


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 02 2008 at 5:56am

Oh my God. The critics are STUPID! I've just finished this movie and I can tell you now, it's way better than many movies playing in theaters right now! This movie isn't about realism. It's about suspense and the movie delivers what it has.

And I don't know if people are drunk but the performances were really good! Stupid, stupid, stupid people! This movie was good! I know sometimes I like a bad movie but this movie was GOOD! If you can't appreciate to suspend your beliefs to watch a movie for entertainment, watch the news!

Sorry if I may overact but I will say this again: THIS WAS A GOOD THRILLER! OMFG. I'm starting to believe people hate movies because some actors they don't like are in it,



Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 02 2008 at 6:06am

And #1-Film Freak!!, did we even see the same movie?! Were you high when you saw the movie? HOW COULD IT BE BORING?! It was entertaining? Were you thinking you were watching a movie that was supposed to get some Oscar nominations? Aparantly you do by how negetive you are being to this movie.

I'm sorry. I just can't stop coplaining. A movie this good does NOT deserve to be trashed like this.



Posted By: hastymanic
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 5:38am
"Dear Hayden....I liked you better as Anakin Skywalker. And, I hated you as Anakin Skywalker. Sorry.....asleep! But, getting cut open and having your heart ripped out must have been just awful. Eh! Give  yourself credit for taking it in stride. Here's some advice.  Move to a small town in Iowa and start raising chickens. You'd probably get more acclaim at the county fair than you have in Hollywood!"

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Posted By: Headbanger14
Date Posted: May 10 2008 at 9:38am
If you get through the open heart surgery, this movie was crap. I didn't even get the plot with Jessica Alba, everything was screwed up. Worst movie I've seen this year.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 12:56pm
Really?For me it was the best drama of the year.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by Vits

Really?For me it was the best drama of the year.

Well, apparentally, you were one of the few people who saw it AND thought that.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 2:52pm
Come on!I know it was slow-paced,but so are many classic dramas(not that I think this is one).And it has a lot of cool twists.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by Vits

Come on!I know it was slow-paced,but so are many classic dramas(not that I think this is one).And it has a lot of cool twists.

And it also featured the actor who is universally viewed as the guy who ruined the Darth Vader characther and an actress who is universally viewed as being talentless except for providing T&A.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 3:18pm
Yeah,I thought H.C. deserved the Razzie,and I don't find anything special in J.A.'s actin',but this doesn't mean the movie's bad.

Originally posted by Headbanger14

I didn't even get the plot with Jessica Alba, everything was screwed up. Worst movie I've seen this year.

If you didn't get it,that means you didn't pay much attention to the movie,which means you're not really in position of judgin'.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 15 2010 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Vits


Originally posted by Headbanger14

I didn't even get the plot with Jessica Alba, everything was screwed up. Worst movie I've seen this year.

If you didn't get it,that means you didn't pay much attention to the movie,which means you're not really in position of judgin'.
Or the movie failed to unfold it's plot and story properly so you can't follow it.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 6:32am
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Or the movie failed to unfold it's plot and story properly so you can't follow it.

Honestly, that's a really dumb thing to think. I've seen the film and personally loved it. It has the classic Hitchcockian feel and I thought the twists in the film were revealed really well. But whether you liked the movie or not, it was clear what was going on and only those who didn't even bother to pay attention in the first place would be the ones to not get it because everything was explained rather blatantly. All in all, I think this is one of the few rare thrillers that actually work with good performances by two stars who are rather criticized. Plus, the film managed to tie everything together and to not cheat the audience. This film wasn't screened to the critics so some of the critics, notably Roger Ebert and Richard Roeper, went out and paid to see it on their own and posted positive reviews for the film. If they have still been together on At the Movies, this film would have gotten a "Surprising 2 thumbs up!" I just think this is a really underrated thriller.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 6:54am
Except for the "Good performances" part,ev'rythin'he said was true.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 10:57am
Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Or the movie failed to unfold it's plot and story properly so you can't follow it.

Honestly, that's a really dumb thing to think. I've seen the film and personally loved it. It has the classic Hitchcockian feel and I thought the twists in the film were revealed really well. But whether you liked the movie or not, it was clear what was going on and only those who didn't even bother to pay attention in the first place would be the ones to not get it because everything was explained rather blatantly. All in all, I think this is one of the few rare thrillers that actually work with good performances by two stars who are rather criticized. Plus, the film managed to tie everything together and to not cheat the audience. This film wasn't screened to the critics so some of the critics, notably Roger Ebert and Richard Roeper, went out and paid to see it on their own and posted positive reviews for the film. If they have still been together on At the Movies, this film would have gotten a "Surprising 2 thumbs up!" I just think this is a really underrated thriller.
Not true, a TRULY bad movie fails to get it's plot across. But the big STOP sign was the choice in cast, because as "good" as the performances were, the two leads are looked down upon by critics and audiences, which was the kiss of death and it will never be respected.
 
And of course, what a surprise, quoting Ebert once again. Because if he says it's good, it MUST be.Confused Again, I respect the man's opinion, but just because he says he liked the movie, doesn't mean that we should not pay attention to the other 99.9% of critics who say the movie sucks.


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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Not true, a TRULY bad movie fails to get it's plot across. But the big STOP sign was the choice in cast, because as "good" as the performances were, the two leads are looked down upon by critics and audiences, which was the kiss of death and it will never be respected.

Which is kinda sad, because if an actor who is usually looked down upon finally stars in a good movie with a genuinely good performance, then what happens? It's not really fair. I think people are blinded by their hatred of these two actors that that's the reason why this film got negative reviews. I'll admit I defend some movies that people don't like because I understand their complaints but I really think if Alfred Hitchcock himself were alive today, he would enjoy this film.
 
And of course, what a surprise, quoting Ebert once again. Because if he says it's good, it MUST be.Confused Again, I respect the man's opinion, but just because he says he liked the movie, doesn't mean that we should not pay attention to the other 99.9% of critics who say the movie sucks.

Well, Roger Ebert is actually a well-respected critic and the fact that he doesn't hate these two actors just proves his un-bias-ness. Wink


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Not true, a TRULY bad movie fails to get it's plot across. But the big STOP sign was the choice in cast, because as "good" as the performances were, the two leads are looked down upon by critics and audiences, which was the kiss of death and it will never be respected.

Which is kinda sad, because if an actor who is usually looked down upon finally stars in a good movie with a genuinely good performance, then what happens? It's not really fair. I think people are blinded by their hatred of these two actors that that's the reason why this film got negative reviews. I'll admit I defend some movies that people don't like because I understand their complaints but I really think if Alfred Hitchcock himself were alive today, he would enjoy this film.
 
Moviewizguy,you don't know Hitchcock's taste.I know what it's like to defend bad movies for considerin'them good,but the performances are another thing.I'm not sayin'H.C. and J.A. were Razzie worthy,but they weren't great.And what you say can't be truth.Look at PRECIOUS.The actors in that movie are anythin'but dramatic actors.We have a comedian who won the Oscar and two singers,one of which won a Razzie years ago and a few good acting awards this year.
 
B.H.B.,did you watch the movie?'Cuz all your comments are'bout general opinions,rather than your own.
 
Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

And of course, what a surprise, quoting Ebert once again. Because if he says it's good, it MUST be.Confused Again, I respect the man's opinion, but just because he says he liked the movie, doesn't mean that we should not pay attention to the other 99.9% of critics who say the movie sucks.

Well, Roger Ebert is actually a well-respected critic and the fact that he doesn't hate these two actors just proves his un-bias-ness. Wink
 
Moviewizguy,it doesn't matter if he's the greatest critic of all times.We can't rely on 1 person's opinion.A movie's quality it's defined by the majority's thoughts.
 
B.H.B.,the movie may have 20 or 30% good reviews,but that's far from 0.1% like you say.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 17 2010 at 2:46pm
I just re-watched this, and I give it 9/10. 

I take back what I said about the performances. Alba was mildly bad, but Christensen was a little above average, which is surprising considering his other performances. Although he wasn't as good as Howard and Olin.

There are a lot of errors in the movie. I've been through a lot of forums and stuff searching, and I agree with most them but I don't think they're enough to consider the movie bad. 

Right before I watched this I watched THE GOOD,THE BAD & THE UGLY(5/10). Now that's a movie that hardly keeps you awake.  

I'm still waiting for Joby Harold to do another movie!


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 17 2010 at 5:57pm
I don't understand why you admit the movie has errors and bad acting, but yet you still give it such high ratings? That's like Roger Ebert pointing out all the flaws of a Uwe Boll or Seltzerberg movie, but then giving it an A- anyway. 

As for "Good, Bad, Ugly," yeah, it might be long, but it's considered an instant classic, and a staple of the Western genre.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 9:41am
Because the errors aren't big enough. At least half the plot holes critics mention have an obvious explanation, but they didn't pay attention enough. Jessica Alba's was far from an awful performance, despite coming close. She deserved the nomination, but didn't deserve to "win" and I'm glad she didn't. As for "Worst Couple"...Well, she and Christensen don't make a good couple. The nomination with Dane Cook is alright, and but with Ioan Gruffud she has a lot of chemistry!

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 11:50am
Still, 9/10 -- that's supposed to be saved for only the best of the best, movies that will be remembered decades from now. The "Godfathers," the "Citizen Kanes," etc. This movie, is already forgotten, and it's from only 3 years ago. And Alba and Christian just plain suck -- they were only hired for their looks... 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 1:54pm
The best of the best deserves 10/10.

I know it doesn't look like much difference,but it is. I originally gave this a 10, but I realize the errors(on my own,then double-checked in forums) so I lowered the grade.  

I gave CITIZEN "KANE" a 7. 

Don't worry. I'll make sure I won't forget this. 


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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 3:50pm
Would you mind listing some inaccuracies?


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 3:52pm
The main one would have to be some medical innacuracies.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 9:53pm
How would you know? Did you personally experience "anesthesia awareness"? I would hate that feeling. However, I do remember an interview with a woman who went through anesthesia awareness, and said the film depicted it so realistically that it brought her to tears.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 12:37pm
1)MWG -- I don't know if you're "late to the party," but aparently it's you and I vs. Burn, not you vs. me, so calm down.

2)I meant things like how small the O.R. was(that's actually debatable) or the fact characters kept coming in and out of there like it's nothing, especially the anesthesiologist, who's supposed to be there all the time... 


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 2:51pm

You should also take into account that any movie made by Hollywood will be based on only a LITTLE bit of fact, but then overly dramatized for entertainment effect. And of course, MWG always has a soft spot for anything emotional, regradless if the overall product sucks. Still doesn't change the fact it's a bad movie that has already been forgotten.



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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 3:10pm
Wasn't this movie an "independent" production?

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 4:51pm
Just having a movie about people being awake during surgery isn't dramatic enough, there have to be twisty subplots and other elements thrown in.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 8:03pm
BHB: The below is not true. I don't like the Nicholas Sparks adaptations...at all. 

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

You should also take into account that any movie made by Hollywood will be based on only a LITTLE bit of fact, but then overly dramatized for entertainment effect. And of course, MWG always has a soft spot for anything emotional, regradless if the overall product sucks. Still doesn't change the fact it's a bad movie that has already been forgotten.



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 8:37pm
I wouldn't know, MWG, since you are often prone to overpraising movies for 

A). Being slightly entertaining on some level or 

B). Being emotional on some level.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 9:26am
MWG: Clap,clap,clap!  

Originally posted by moviewizguy

That's not true. I don't like the Nicholas Sparks adaptations...at all.


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