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In the True SPIRIT of Bah, Humbuggery...

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Forum Name: THE SPIRIT
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Topic: In the True SPIRIT of Bah, Humbuggery...
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: In the True SPIRIT of Bah, Humbuggery...
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 2:18am

ALTHOUGH SOME of OUR FORUM MEMBERS* HAVE DEFENDED THIS as BEING QUIRKY and ORIGINAL, the ONE/TWO PUNCH of TERRIBLE REVIEWS and TINY BOX OFFICE ALL BUT DEMAND THAT WE INCLUDE http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=329&PN=1 - as OUR FINAL FORUM of 2008...

HANDING the DIRECTING REINS OVER to http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0588340/ - (WHICH ACTUALLY HAD MORE LAUGHS THAN http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=249 - ) THIS FINAL LIONSGATE RELEASE of 2008 PROVED to BE the LAST BIG DUD of the YEAR -- WITH BOTH http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3361&PN=1&TPN=1 - and http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3359&PN=1 - at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_spirit/ - .

ALTHOUGH IT FLOPPED TOO LATE to MAKE OUR NOMINATING BALLOT, WE THOUGHT ITS UNDER ACHIEVEMENTS EARNED IT a PLACE on OUR FORUM.

OKAY, dEd GRIMLEY*, NOW YOU CAN SET ABOUT DEFENDING IT...

JACKSON: "This won't be any more painful than 

reading the reviews -- or checking out your numbers 

over at B.O. MoJo..." 





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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 2:53am
Oh well, at least this is one listed movie that we know won't be "winning" anything.


Posted By: Headbanger14
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 8:43am

I saw Sin City and thought it was alright, And 300 was pretty cool. But when I saw the trailer for this beast, I just thought it looked like stupid junk.

It's a shame I had no interest in going to any movies this past month, because all the movies at my local theater were stupid, unoriginal and, like...Twilight.

 



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Posted By: sportsartist24
Date Posted: December 29 2008 at 9:15am
Sin city and 300 were both decent. This one looks like a dumb film. It seems like Frank Miller didn't do a decent job directing on his own. He probably should have had someone else do it.

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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 4:13am

You pretty much hit the only two words I could use to defend it -- It certainly wasn't for everyone. I think the way they set about making it look like another comic-book noir movie, and then it turned out to be an action/comedy, made it fail to deliver the movie people expected to see from the marketing of it. I certainly didn't see its failure coming. But even with all that, it WAS something different... More of a manic action/comedy -- something like Lethal Weapon.

Actually, there is ONE other thing I could use to defend it: Eva Mendes' "dropping her towel scene" was a better in the movie than in the trailer...

 



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 11:28am

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Actually, there is ONE other thing I could use to defend it: Eva Mendes' "dropping her towel scene" was a better in the movie than in the trailer...

Yes, it's a sad thing when the best excuse to see a movie is for you to see the naked rear of your favorite actress on a 50 feet screen, and it's NOT a porno. 



Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 11:34am

True...

But it was s-o-o-o-o-o much nicer than I thought it'd be.

Originally posted by Michaels

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Actually, there is ONE other thing I could use to defend it: Eva Mendes' "dropping her towel scene" was a better in the movie than in the trailer...

Yes, it's a sad thing when the best excuse to see a movie is for you to see the naked rear of your favorite actress on a 50 feet screen, and it's NOT a porno. 




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Posted By: wetbandit82
Date Posted: January 06 2009 at 2:20pm
There was an article on Cartoon Brew last month pointing out how, in the early 80s when feature animation was in its absolute doldrums, a couple of renegade animators tried to do The Spirit as a feature, but couldn't get the financial backing for the project.  More than a few of them--including a number of subsequent Disney legends such as John Lassiter and John Musker--feel they could have substantially changed the course of animation had they been given a chance with it--certainly it could have been more entertaining than this. 


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 2:18pm
The creators of this film go through a lot of red tape to make the film look like a comic book...and they got  for it.


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 9:15am

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

The creators of this film go through a lot of red tape to make the film look like a comic book...and they got  for it.

I put most of the blame on the shoulders of first-time director (or at least first time solo, since he co-directed "Sin City") Frank Miller. Since he also wrote the screenplay, so he's most at fault for the flat dialog and the actor's wooden preformances, just like George Lucas did in the Star Wars prequels.



Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:35pm

Saw this on youtube and thought you guys might want to see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xI2_Up1d4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xI2_Up1d4



Posted By: Kate
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 11:55am
Can I be the first female to point out that the Spirit himself was just as hot as the women around him? I mean... DAMN.  

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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 5:13pm
Not only the first, but you can also probably be the last. How bout THAT?


Posted By: Kate
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 10:51am
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Not only the first, but you can also probably be the last. How bout THAT?


What, guys get to talk about the sexy ladies, but girls don't get to talk about the single sexy man?


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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 11:45am
lol Re-reading, that came out a bit harsh perhaps, sorry.


Posted By: Kate
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by dEd Grimley

lol Re-reading, that came out a bit harsh perhaps, sorry.


Haha it's all good, no worries.


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Posted By: BrassKnuckle
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 11:03am
I enjoyed this film. This was good, quality, Adam-West-Batman brand cheese. I fail to see why everyone tried to take it so seriously. I want a cold bottle of Aquafina the next time I see this.

My father couldn't get over seeing Samuel L Jackson in a nazi uniform. The history buff in him popped a fuse when he saw that.


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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by BrassKnuckle

I enjoyed this film. This was good, quality, Adam-West-Batman brand cheese. I fail to see why everyone tried to take it so seriously. I want a cold bottle of Aquafina the next time I see this. My father couldn't get over seeing Samuel L Jackson in a nazi uniform. The history buff in him popped a fuse when he saw that.


I couldn't believe how funny I found that.


Posted By: BrassKnuckle
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 4:13am

What was funny? The fact that I liked it; the reference to the  blatant Aquafina bottle seen in the father/daughter talk; or that my father went nuts when he saw SLJ in a Nazi uniform?

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by BrassKnuckle

I enjoyed this film. This was good, quality, Adam-West-Batman brand cheese. I fail to see why everyone tried to take it so seriously. I want a cold bottle of Aquafina the next time I see this. My father couldn't get over seeing Samuel L Jackson in a nazi uniform. The history buff in him popped a fuse when he saw that.


I couldn't believe how funny I found that.





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Posted By: tdickensheets
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

ALTHOUGH SOME of OUR FORUM MEMBERS* HAVE DEFENDED THIS as BEING QUIRKY and ORIGINAL, the ONE/TWO PUNCH of TERRIBLE REVIEWS and TINY BOX OFFICE ALL BUT DEMAND THAT WE INCLUDE http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=329&PN=1 - THE SPIRIT as OUR FINAL FORUM of 2008...

HANDING the DIRECTING REINS OVER to http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0588340/ - the WRITER of 300 (WHICH WAS ACTUALLY HAD MORE LAUGHS THAN http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=249 - MEET THE SPARTANS ) THIS FINAL LIONSGATE RELEASE of 2008 PROVED to BE the LAST BIG DUD of the YEAR -- WITH BOTH http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3361&PN=1&TPN=1 - BAD B.O. and http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3359&PN=1 - ROTTEN REVIEWS at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_spirit/ - ROTTEN TOMATOES .

ALTHOUGH IT FLOPPED TOO LATE to MAKE OUR NOMINATING BALLOT, WE THOUGHT ITS UNDER ACHIEVEMENTS EARNED IT a PLACE on OUR FORUM.

OKAY, dEd GRIMLEY*, NOW YOU CAN SET ABOUT DEFENDING IT...

"This won't be any more painful than reading the reviews -- or checking out your numbers over at B.O. MoJo..."

"I have to kill you! I didn't get a oscar!!"



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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 11:22am
Frank Miller should stay away from movies.Yes,it was as stunning as SIN CITY.But directing isn't just about visuals.It's also about correcting the errors of the script and this one ended up with a confusing narrative,which actually isn't that big of a deal in comics because you can just go back a page if you miss or misunderstood something.Directing it's also about telling the cast how to act,and he clearly doesn't know how to do it.My main proof is Gabriel Match constantly changing his voice.As for the lame reactions...well maybe that was on purpose...since this is a satire.There are a lot of other obvious errors in the movie(like no one realizing THE SPIRIT's identity with that mask)that mean that Miller,if he wants to be in the business,stick to cinematography.

I give this 5/10.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 2:55pm
Yeah, mind you when Miller did "Sin City", he had not one, but TWO directors helping him. On his own, he had no clue what he was doing, and this movie exposed that.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 4:03pm
Specially since the shooting was done just by Robert Rodriguez(except one scene shot by Quentin Tarantino).Rodriguez and Miller are credited as directors for mostly doing the supervising aspect.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by Vits

Specially since the shooting was done just by Robert Rodriguez(except one scene shot by Quentin Tarantino).Rodriguez and Miller are credited as directors for mostly doing the supervising aspect.
Yeah, they say working on a movie set in person is one way to quickly learn about the film making process. Miller must have not been paying much attention, because he clearly didn't learn anything.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 7:48am
Originally posted by Vits

There are a lot of other obvious errors in the movie(like no one realizing THE SPIRIT's identity with that mask)that mean that Miller,if he wants to be in the business,stick to cinematography.

Actually,he could also dedicate to Production and Costume Design,Art Direction,etc.And yes,I know those movies were shot in green screen.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by Vits

Actually,he could also dedicate to Production and Costume Design,Art Direction,etc.And yes,I know those movies were shot in green screen.
The problem with all green screen, actors can only use their imaginations for so long. Eventually, they NEED props and sets and backgrounds and other actors to work off of.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: June 28 2013 at 10:02pm
Before I start my review of the worst super hero movie of the last couple years*, I'm going to do a little history on the director of this film, Frank Miller. This information is definitely not blatantly stolen from Miller's Wikipedia page. Definitely not. He started out writing for The Twilight Zone comic book, before briefly going over to DC and, eventually, Marvel as an artist. While drawing an issue of Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man, the issue featured Daredevil, who was going through bad sales at the time. Miller took a liking to Daredevil and asked Marvel editor-in-chief Jim Shooter to give him a chance with the character. Miller drew ten issues before becoming the writer. He introduced Elektra in his first issue as writer. One of the more notable story arcs on his Daredevil run was the Born Again arc, where the Kingpin finds out Daredevil's secret identity and systematically ruins his life. As great as his time at Marvel was, it can't compare to his time back at DC afterwards. His magnum opus is The Dark Knight Returns, a tale of an aging Batman and a world gone completely mad. Along with Watchmen (which came out the same year), TDKR revolutionized the comic industry. He followed it up with the great prequel Batman: Year One and adult-oriented work like the Sin City stories and 300. And then 9/11 happened and he went to sh*t. Miller lived 4 miles away from the World Trade Center when it happened and it affected his writing. For the worse. Much like Dennis Miller and David Zucker, 9/11 turned Frank Miller into a right-wing hack. His first comic afterwards (The Dark Knight Strikes Back) is one of the most Godawful pieces of crap in comic history. It's an unbearably dumb story told with some of the ugliest art (by Miller) you'll ever see. He followed that up with All-Star Batman And Robin, which is mostly known for this:
With all that backstory out of the way, let's get to the review.

One thing well is its approach to the origin story. And by that, I mean it mostly skims over it. Most comic book movie origin stories are boring and take too much time up. The Spirit, on the other hand, realizes that and just skips over it. One scene that I liked was when The Spirit is being interviewed and stops a robbery during the middle of it. It's a funny little scene and it's the only scene that feels like something Will Eisner would write. And Gabriel Macht gives a decent performance as the title character.

The acting in the film is mostly crap. Scarlet Johansson and Eva Mendes give crappy performance as femme fatales. Louis Lombardi is crappy as the Octopus' cloned minions.

Samuel L. Jackson is impressively bad as the Octopus. This is easily his worst performance. His nadir is the weird scene where and Johansson are dressed up like Nazis and melt a kitten. Terrible in a small role is future Castle star Stana Katic as an annoying rookie. But as terrible as most of the actors are, the main problem in the film is Miller. Specificly, the fact that the film feels more like Sin City 2 than The Spirit. Now, it's important that films aren't just carbon copies of the source material, but considering how Miller said that he wanted to pay tribute to Eisner, it's baffling that this is the end result. Except for that brief scene mentioned in the first paragraph, the film feels nothing like The Spirit. It feels more like The Tick than The Spirit.

As bad as All-Star Batman And Robin was, I actually like it more than The Dark Knight Strikes Back. The art (by Jim Lee) is gorgeous and the comic is hilarious bad instead of unreadable bad like TDKSB. Grade: F

Next-up: Star Trek: Insurrection!

*Seriously, it almost makes Green Lantern look good.

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