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A GOOD Horror Movie? In 2009?!?!?

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Forum Name: ZOMBIELAND
Forum Discription: In a Year Full of Shitty Horror Remakes and Rip-Offs, FINALLY Something That Looks Entertaining and Marginally ORIGINAL!
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Topic: A GOOD Horror Movie? In 2009?!?!?
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: A GOOD Horror Movie? In 2009?!?!?
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 3:38am

BEFORE MOVIEWIZEGUY GOES BALLISTIC ON US -- THIS WEAK, WE'RE ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTING WHAT LOOKS LIKE a GOOD MOVIE for a CHANGE...

IN a YEAR CLUTTERED with the CORPSES of CRAPPY HORROR MOVIE REMAKES, RIP-OFFS and "RE-IMAGININGS," http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=388 - ZOMBIELAND STANDS OUT LIKE...WELL, a ZOMBIE at an AFTERNOON WEDDING.

WITH PROMOs THAT ACTUALLY ELICIT LAUGHING OUT LOUD in FRONT of YOUR TV, a PERFORMANCE from http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Woody+Harrelson&btnG=Search+Razzies.com&domains=razzies.com&sitesearch=razzies.com - 1993 WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR "WINNER" http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000437/ - WOODY HARRELSON THAT MAY REVIVE HIS LONG DORMANT CAREER, a SCRIPT and DIRECTOR WITH a SIMILARLY WICKED SENSE of HUMOR to the ONE THAT MADE http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shaun_of_the_dead/ - SHAUN OF THE DEAD ONE of OUR BERRY FAVORITE MOVIES of the LAST 10 YEARS, and REVIEWS ANY LIVING DEAD MOVIE WOULD KILL for, ZOMBIELAND LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD BE a BOX OFFICE WINNER...   

BUT WILL IT BE?  WITH AUDIENCES INURED by the WITLESS GARBAGE and MINDLESS GORE HOLLYWOOD's BEEN PUMPING OUT LIKE SO MANY BLOOD SAUSAGES THIS YEAR, WILL MALL RAT MOVIE-GOERS (TINSEL TOWN's TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC) EVEN RECOGNIZE a WORTHY MOVIE WHEN IT COMES ALONG??   

TO OFFER YOUR THEORIES as to the LIKELY FATE of ZOMBIELAND, LOG-ON and WEIGH IN BELOW...

Will the same clowns who've shown up for every sh*tty horror movie that's come out so far this year buy tickets for this one?!?



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 3:51am

Ah, now see, if MWG claims that he watches slasher movies just to laugh at the cliches, than this is the movie for him, because it's all about poking fun at the cliches. I mean, if you claim that horror movies make you laugh, why pay money to see the cliches? Instead, you should be paying money to see the parody movies that make fun of the cliches.

But I have a theory. MWG mentioned he saw "Scream" at age 7. I think that is very important because I think the earlier in life you watch horror and slasher movies, the less put off you are by violence. Heck, I'll go as far as to say some people who see it too young might end up turned on by the violence. Believe me, I have read forums posts about people who thought the organ removal scene from that movie "Turitas" was "sexy". Freaks!

Me, I remember the scene from "Raider Of The Lost Ark" where the bad guys' faces melting off scared me. Now that I'm much older, I don't find gore in movies as funny or scary, just uncalled for and all about shock value.



Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 5:55am
I'm sure the "clowns" will show up in droves and eagerly hand over their 10 bucks for an 81 minute movie. Undoubtedly they'll leave satisfied, although it is interesting that all the early reviews for this film are positive but all are coming from sources generally favorable to this type of film. It'll find its audience, but count me out.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 9:44am

Well, I don't actually go to theaters to see slashers. I wait until they get cheap on DVD.

Originally posted by Michaels

Ah, now see, if MWG claims that he watches slasher movies just to laugh at the cliches, than this is the movie for him, because it's all about poking fun at the cliches. I mean, if you claim that horror movies make you laugh, why pay money to see the cliches? Instead, you should be paying money to see the parody movies that make fun of the cliches.


Parents of kids these days watched "The Exorcist," "Poltergeist," and "Jaws" when they were young. I don't see the difference. And no, even though I was terrified of Chucky and Nightmare on Elm St., I was still wincing at the organ removal scene in "Turistas." And the death scenes in "The Happening" also caused me to turn my head back.

But I have a theory. MWG mentioned he saw "Scream" at age 7. I think that is very important because I think the earlier in life you watch horror and slasher movies, the less put off you are by violence. Heck, I'll go as far as to say some people who see it too young might end up turned on by the violence. Believe me, I have read forums posts about people who thought the organ removal scene from that movie "Turitas" was "sexy". Freaks!


 



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Posted By: tomsmo35
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 10:58am
I watched the trailer when it first came out and The one liners that Woody Harrelson delivers were really funny.


Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 12:59pm
I get the feeling that this movie has less to do with zombies than most zombie movies. I'll let you all know after I see it on Thursday.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 1:09pm
I searched up the running time because I thought the 81 minutes thing was a joke. Well, apparently, it isn't. I find this extremely underwhelming, feeling the same way with "The Final Destination" 82 minute running time. I'd expected 100 minutes at least.


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 4:03pm

Wow, if there is one thing that truly amazes me about MWG, it's how he can turn any thread into a discussion about what movies he likes. If there was ever a "horror" movie that could provoke laughs from its death scenes, it's "The Happening". Now those were deaths that were so stupid, you had to laugh! Come on, the quickest way to kill yourself is to turn on a lawn mower, lie down and WAIT for it to turn around and run you over? Or better yet, feed yourself to a lion, who will rip your arms off ... which they don't do in real life (they always go for the back of the neck and kill their prey with a vice grip before eating).

As for the running time, Kevin Smith once said all comedies are best when they are 90 minutes or under, otherwise the movie will drag on for too long without laughs.

 



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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 4:51pm
To be fair, I'm going to assume it should probably get to the 90 minute mark, but it's fairly close.

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 1:18am

Perhaps one of these days you'll get around to the realization that I make every effort to make my posts factually accurate. That doesn't mean that occasionally I do not make mistakes (to which I readily admit on discovery) or receive errant information. But checking on running times for films is a rather straightforward proposition. 

Originally posted by moviewizguy

I searched up the running time because I thought the 81 minutes thing was a joke. Well, apparently, it isn't. I find this extremely underwhelming, feeling the same way with "The Final Destination" 82 minute running time. I'd expected 100 minutes at least.



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 01 2009 at 2:29pm

Oh, oh, riiiight. So the exception to the rule to laugh during a death scene is when the death scene is lame! Oh, I get it now! Someone stabbing themselves on the neck, crushing their head through the windows, shooting a bullet in their heads, hanging themselves, and jumping off buildings are so very lame! Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?! *cough*Hypocrite*cough*

You know, the people in my audience were wincing and turning back their heads during those scenes. Yeah, they're totally "stupid." I know quite a few people that jumped during the lawn mower death when the blood spewed out. 

Originally posted by Michaels

If there was ever a "horror" movie that could provoke laughs from its death scenes, it's "The Happening". Now those were deaths that were so stupid, you had to laugh! Come on, the quickest way to kill yourself is to turn on a lawn mower, lie down and WAIT for it to turn around and run you over? Or better yet, feed yourself to a lion, who will rip your arms off ... which they don't do in real life (they always go for the back of the neck and kill their prey with a vice grip before eating).



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 01 2009 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Perhaps one of these days you'll get around to the realization that I make every effort to make my posts factually accurate. That doesn't mean that occasionally I do not make mistakes (to which I readily admit on discovery) or receive errant information. But checking on running times for films is a rather straightforward proposition. 


Ok, first of all, you don't have to get so negative and rude all of the time. I just thought, through rationalizing, that the film would be longer than 80 minutes. Jeez.


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 01 2009 at 3:31pm

Originally posted by moviewizguy


Oh, oh, riiiight. So the exception to the rule to laugh during a death scene is when the death scene is lame! Oh, I get it now! Someone stabbing themselves on the neck, crushing their head through the windows, shooting a bullet in their heads, hanging themselves, and jumping off buildings are so very lame! Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?! *cough*Hypocrite*cough*

You know, the people in my audience were wincing and turning back their heads during those scenes. Yeah, they're totally "stupid." I know quite a few people that jumped during the lawn mower death when the blood spewed out.

*cough*Was talking about the over the top, stupid deaths, not the "normal" deaths of stabbing and shooting, as you can clearly see in the original post.*cough.

Now, laying in front of a lawn mower and waiting for it to run you over, sorry, but I can't take that seriously. And although I didn't  laugh out loud, I did roll my eyes and shake my head during that scene. Sure, the blood coming out is distrubing, but by then you don't care because logic takes away from the scene. I really don't get this thing about you and this movie. You keep posting how it was suppose to be a "B movie" all along and shouldn't be taken seriously, and yet you take it seriously.

As for the looking up the time thing, come on man, we all know you were just looking for ANY excuse to bring up "FD" for the millionth time.



Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: October 01 2009 at 4:45pm
Saw it, highly recommend it. It's very much not a horror movie, although there is plenty of violence and gore. It DOES work very well as a comedy, and it really doesn't take itself very seriously, which is especially apparent during a particular sequence featuring a (at least to me) surprise cameo that really gives you a sense of what they're actually going for in this film. Some of the self-awareness is a detriment to the overall quality of the movie, but it really wouldn't work otherwise.
You've gotta give credit to Shaun of the Dead, but this movie is by NO means derivative of it.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 02 2009 at 10:09am
Originally posted by Michaels

As for the looking up the time thing, come on man, we all know you were just looking for ANY excuse to bring up "FD" for the millionth time.

What are you talking about? I didn't bring anything up about FD. Perhaps the things you're saying is the catalyst for me doing so but if you can refrain from saying things that are related to the FD series, then there a pretty good chance I won't bring it up.


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 02 2009 at 1:17pm
Ah, dude, you compared the movie time length of "FD" to that of "Zombieland". I do consider that reaching for any excuse just to talk about "FD".


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 12:33pm

Oh, yes, I did. So what? I picked the most recent movie with that short of a length. I could have picked "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" but that movie is 90 minutes and this movie is around 80 minutes, which is why I picked TFD, which had a running time of 81 minutes. I hardly call that as an excuse for anything, if at all trying to bring a discussion about the FD franchise. See, if you wouldn't have said that and complained like you always do, we wouldn't be arguing about whether or not I tried to bring FD into the discussion for the past 5 posts. 


Originally posted by Michaels

Ah, dude, you compared the movie time length of "FD" to that of "Zombieland". I do consider that reaching for any excuse just to talk about "FD".



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 2:05pm

MWG and "FD" aside, a friend of mine saw "Zombieland" and said he was happy that it went beyond his expectations and that it was one of the few times he left the theater feeling as if he didn't waste his money. He said it was like "Superbad" meets "Shaun of the Dead", and it was funny as hell. But a warning to saturnwatcher, he also said it was gory.



Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 2:12pm
Ok. Getting back on topic, I just saw the movie today and I enjoyed it very much. It was funny and has an endearing quality to it. I enjoyed every second of it! 8/10


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 2:55pm

 To the credit of the people who made this movie, the trailers provided adequate warning to those of us who aren't comfortable with that kind of imagery. It is always pleasing to hear when a movie is entertaining those who choose to see it, and equally pleasing when the makers of the movie recognize that it will not appeal to certain audiences, and they are honest enough to steer us away. 

Originally posted by Michaels

MWG and "FD" aside, a friend of mine saw "Zombieland" and said he was happy that it went beyond his expectations and that it was one of the few times he left the theater feeling as if he didn't waste his money. He said it was like "Superbad" meets "Shaun of the Dead", and it was funny as hell. But a warning to saturnwatcher, he also said it was gory.



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 3:13am
Yeah, it's crazy, right? A H-Wood movie that is actually good, and is mindful of who its target audience is. That's unheard of these days!

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Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 11:33am

Also saw the movie. I thought there should have been even more over-the-top zombie violence, being as this is somewhat of a satire of zombie movies. I thought the "zombie survival rules" were a little over-stated at times, but still, it was a hilarious movie.

H-wood should make more of these type of horror films, instead of crap like Final Destination or Saw sequels.

By the way, anyone else agree that the best part of the movie was the cameo? 



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 2:35pm
By the way, anyone else agree that the best part of the movie was the cameo? 

I do. I laughed out loud and the part when s/he said about a regret, I laughed out so loud. And when they recreated that scene from that movie, that was pretty funny. I'm trying to not give anything away but I really enjoyed it! My brother, who saw it with me, didn't find it funny. My mom didn't get any of it, since she didn't know who the person was. But the rest of the audience was laughing.


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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 4:43pm

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

H-wood should make these more of these types of horror films instead of crap like Final Destination or Saw sequels.

I knew that was going to rub you the wrong way. But he has a point, H-Wood needs to take a lesson from this movie. Zombie movies are coming out a dime a dozen these days, it was a genre ripe for parody and this movie delivered. Maybe now filmmakers will be forced to bring something new and fresh to the genre. As for "Final Destination" and "Saw", if there were ever two horror movies that need parodying, it's those two, because at this point they have become self-parody or have gone the way of beating a dead horse with a stick.



Posted By: babypook
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 6:57am

I had a great time watching Zombieland. I found it snide, hilarious, touching, scary; and that cameo by you-know-who was simply priceless!

What are the odds of him getting an Oscar nod, or any type of awards recognition? After all, with the attention paid to Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, and RDjr last year, why not?

 

Zombieland may not have been that original, but it exceeded my expectations. It was great fun.



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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 9:21am
Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

By the way, anyone else agree that the best part of the movie was the cameo? 


The cameo was awesome, and important for setting the tone of the movie - not serious.

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 12:31pm
ummm...the surprise cameo is the worst kept secret around, so feel free to discuss it at will. I haven't seen the movie, but I already know all about it...in fact, I read about it before the film was released

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 06 2009 at 9:03am
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

ummm...the surprise cameo is the worst kept secret around, so feel free to discuss it at will. I haven't seen the movie, but I already know all about it...in fact, I read about it before the film was released

I more or less did too. They had it on the cast list on IMDb like months before it was released and people on the boards were asking "Why is _________ listed as 'himself'?" But good thing I read that months ago. I forgot about it until the scene came up and I was like, "Oooooh." Good thing I didn't put the two and two together.


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 06 2009 at 3:31pm
Yeah, as for the cameo ... let me put it this way: when there's zombies in your amusement park, who ya gonna call?


Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: October 07 2009 at 7:00am
FRED DURST!

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: October 07 2009 at 2:10pm

Um, okay. Not my first choice. But hey, if that's whose hands you want to put your life in...



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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 7:13pm
I've considered this for my Top 40 Films of Double-O-Nine, but it isn't all guaranteed yet. The chances are 50/50, variant on what I read next week on or around February 2.

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: January 28 2010 at 7:17am
Originally posted by GTAHater767

I've considered this for my Top 40 Films of Double-O-Nine, but it isn't all guaranteed yet. The chances are 50/50, variant on what I read next week on or around February 2.
Why do you have to wait until the second month of the following year to decide if you liked a movie from last year?


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 28 2010 at 9:16am

By the time I decide on how good a film is compared with other good films, those other awards have already announced their nominations. By the time I know for sure, those other awards have already announced their winners.



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: January 28 2010 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by GTAHater767

By the time I decide on how good a film is compared with other good films, those other awards have already announced their nominations. By the time I know for sure, those other awards have already announced their winners.

Um, okay, if you say so.


Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: March 18 2010 at 6:55pm
Anyone else think that a sequel to this movie is unnecessary?

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/19038

 I don't think we can bring back Dr. Venkmen http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000490/ - from the dead.






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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: March 18 2010 at 7:03pm
Well, a sequel is usually unnecessary. Even Terminator 2 was unnecessary, but it turned out to be better than the first.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 18 2010 at 7:50pm
Well, let's see, it was a successful movie, so OF COURSE Hollywood MUST make a sequel, even if it's unnecessary! That's the law in Hollywoodland.

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Posted By: kakucis
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 7:06am
I have seen movie with Will Smith - I Am Legend and decided to watch this movie based on impressions about this. Same thing - Zombies and few people left in the world.

But this wasn't so dramatic with great plot and everything but Zomblieland has really great jokes so the movies are completely different but with the same idea. Both are great!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480249/ -



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Posted By: ronymark
Date Posted: May 23 2011 at 12:13am
My "Good Horror Movies of 2009" are below:  

1. Dead Girl  
2. Zombieland  
3. Surveillance  
4. End of the Line  
5. Pontypool  




Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 23 2011 at 12:30pm
I just saw it and gave it ****.

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Posted By: Lomexray
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 11:50pm
I recommend to you these moives: 

1.Last House on the Left (remake) 
2. House of the Devil  
3.Carriers  
4.Cold Prey  
5.Dead girl.  

These are my choices as best horror movies of 2009.






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