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Category: FORUMS on 2009 RELEASES
Forum Name: WHAT ARE 2009's FIVE WORST PREQUELS, REMAKES, RIP-OFFS and SEQUELS?
Forum Discription: Put Yer 2-Cents in As 2 EXACTLY What We Ought 2 Nominate in This Berry Crowded Category!
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Topic: Help Us Narrow a Way-2-Wide Field!
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Help Us Narrow a Way-2-Wide Field!
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 6:28am

AS DECEMBER GOES FLYNG BY, WE ARE GETTING DOWN to the PROVERBIAL GRITTY-NITTY -- THAT TIME of YEAR WHEN WE NEED to NARROW the FIELD of CONTENDERS in PREPARATION for COMPOSING THIS YEAR's http://razzies.com/join.asp - RAZZIE

IN FACT, THERE ARE SO MANY CONTENDERS, WE WERE UNABLE to LIST THEM in a SINGLE POSTING (SEE CONTINUATIONS BELOW)... 

 



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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 6:44am

CONTINUATION #1... 

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=339"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=353"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=381">  



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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 6:58am

CONTINUATION #2...

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=345"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=360"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=352">

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=400 - LINK for TRANSYLMANIA DISCUSSION  

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=360 - LINK for MY LIFE in RUINS DISCUSSION  

...STARTING to SEE WHAT WE MEANT ABOUT TOO MANY CONTENDERS?? 



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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 9:55am

CONTINUATION #3... 

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=399"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=392&PN=1 "> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=377&PN=1">

 



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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 10:21am

CONTINUATION #4... 

http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=341"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=398&PN=1"> http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=384 ">

...NOW, the HARD PART -- EVENTUALLY WINNOWING DOWN THIS BERRY LONG LIST to a MERE FIVE CONTENDERS.

YOUR FEEDBACK, PLEASE...



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 10:59am

I don't know if I can limit it to just five, but here's what I'd consider keeping:

Alvin and the Chipmunks 2, Dragonball Evolution, The Final Destination, Friday the 13th, Transylmania (obviously) Old Dogs and
Pink Panther 2 (did it really come out this year?).

The others, I don't really think are "bad." 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Why am I not surprised that you consider most of the choices "not bad"?? 

And, BTW, http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pinkpanther2.htm - PINK PANTHER 2 was one of 2009's early/obvious RAZZIE® contenders -- It was released last February...


 



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 11:33am

Well, I can't get the list down to only five, but the top contenders on my list (which also happen to be my top contenders for Worst Picture, too) are:

"Transformers 2," "GI Joe," "Dragonball Evolution," "Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li," "Friday The 13th: Part Remake" and "Fame."


 



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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 1:52pm

I'll toss in my top 7:

Stink Panther 2: WHY STEVE, WHY?????

AAAAALVIN!!!!!!!!!

Land of the Lost: The TV series was lame...did ANYONE out there ask for a movie? NO!

Transylmania: As I noted in another forum, no matter how good this movie might have been, there is NO audience for it. It deserves a Razzing just for the stupidity of making it.

G.I. Joe: A full length film, and he didn't even bang Barbie...Razz it!

Old Dogs: let's teach it a new trick...accepting a Razzie!

Fame!: We'll remake this same film fooorever! Watch it go down in a flame! (feel free to use that one in the opening number )

 



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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 3:14pm

Here are my nominees:

Hannah Montana: The Movie
Old Dogs
Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li
Transylmania
The Twilight Saga: New Moon



Posted By: ThatGuy
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 3:15pm
Transylmania is currently at 0.0 on Rotten Tomatoes.
0 for 15 so far.
And the reviews are pretty funny.


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 3:22pm
Welcome to the board, ThatGuy. The guess here is that the reviews for Transylmania will all be considerably funnier than the movie. With only 15 reviews in, it is hard to say whether or not it will fall in our range, but I'm thinking it is definitely worthy or our consideration.

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Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 4:13pm
I'm tempted to vote All, but yea, that's not what we're looking for, huh?

Chipmunks 2
Dragon Ball
GI Joe
Ghosts of Girlfriends Past
Transylmania
Old Dogs
Pink Panther 2
Street Fighter
and DEFINITELY Trannies 2

Tough work keeping it under 10 nominees

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Posted By: JoeBoyden
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 4:57pm

Here's my top five:

 

Transylmania

The Twilight Saga: New Moon

The Pink Panther Part 2

Saw VI

Law Abiding Citizen

 

Dishonorable Mentions: Friday the 13th, Halloween 2



Posted By: RoadDogXVIII
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 7:50pm
Here's my personal top 5 sh*t films. I didn't see them, but I know they should get mentioned:

The Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience
sh*tty music keeps getting pushed down in our throats on a daily basis. Here are the three examples. How the hell are guys with pubic hair-like hairstyles and very effeminate voices considered hot? I guess I'm not a 12-year-old girl.

The Twilight Saga: New Moon
What happens when the vampire lore becomes reduced to nothing but porn for 12-year-old girls who can't spell for sh*t, and furthers the stereotype that middle- to lower-class people are not HAWT? The only good thing about it? That hypnotic single from Death Cab for Cutie. That doesn't belong on the soundtrack.

Hannah Montana: The Movie
Like the Jonas Brothers, another example how the music industry has gone to the dogs. Let's not forget the star got her knickers in a twist because Radiohead wouldn't talk to her, and she threatened to end them. Let's not forget that when she encountered the Queen of England, her disgusting boobs were almost exposed. Makes you wonder where common sense went.

Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel
You don't have to be Einstein to predict this film to be a bomb. The jokes are juvenile and obvious, Zachary Levi from Chuck got hypnotized into this mess and, worst of all, three amazingly talented comic actresses (Anna Faris, Amy Poehler, and Christina Applegate) seem to be erasing any good will I had towards them.

Fame
What happens when you take the original dance film and pander it to the High School Musical crowd. You get this.


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Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 10:52am
Do you think we can split the category into two like you did a couple of years ago?

Worst Remake/Ripoff

Dance Flick
G. I. Blow
Fame
Land of the Lost
Miss March

Worst Sequel/Prequel

Chipmunks Squeakuel
New Moon
Pink Panther 2
Transylmania (aka Dorm Daze 3)
Street Fighter: Legend of Chun Li

Now, Miss March is not among those on the list, but I believe that it can be considered a ripoff of the J. Geils Band song Centerfold.

Wikipedia Descriptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_march
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centerfold_%28song%29

Miss March: Eugene Bell ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Cregger" title="Zach Cregger - Zach Cregger ) wakes from a four year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma" title="Coma - coma to find that his high school sweetheart has gone on to become a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy" title="Playboy - Playboy Playmate.

Centerfold: The song is about a man who is shocked to discover that his
high school crush appeared in a centerfold spread for a male-oriented magazine.

Sound similar?  I think so.


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Posted By: movieman
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 11:26am
I haven't seen enough to make a top 5, but here are 3 that are absolute
musts.
Trannies Two
Halloween 2
GI Joe


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 3:47pm

Ah, but your three might be the only choices we need! 

Originally posted by movieman

I haven't seen enough to make a top 5, but here are 3 that are absolute
musts.
Trannies Two
Halloween 2
GI Joe





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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)


Posted By: Headbanger14
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 5:55pm

My nominations:

Twilight Saga: New Moon

Transformers 2

Transylmania

THE Final Destination   

Dragonball Evolution

AND The Slowness off the Razzie Forums -- LOL! Just kidding! (but seriously, this Forum is really slow ...)

 



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Posted By: tomsmo35
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 6:06pm

For Worst REMAKE, RIP-OFF or SEQUEL my picks are:

Friday The 13th

Halloween 2

Twilight: New Moon

The Final Destination

Transformers 2

Street Fighter 2

 



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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 6:11pm
We need five.  One action film, one drama, one comedy, one romance, and one horror flick (or any combination of those genres).


Posted By: Julianstark
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 12:20am
This category could be easily split into Prequel/Sequel
and Remake/Rip-off

G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra was one of the worst
films I've ever seen. I've also heard from a reliable
source that Dragonball Evolution and Street
Fighter
were terrible... of course, I didn't need
someone to tell me that, but I may break my "see the
movie first" policy in regards to that...

Then there's Alvin and the Chipmunks: The
Squeakquel
(or however that last word's spelled) that
will definitely make my list without me seeing it.

My ballot for this list will probably look like this:
1. G.I. Joe
2. Alvin and the Chipmunks 2: The Squeakquel
3. Saw VI
4. The Twilight Saga: New Moon
5. Hannah Montana: The Movie

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Posted By: Gregory
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 3:09am

Not easy to pick just five, but here they are:

The Twilight Saga: New Moon
Ghosts of Girlfriends Past 
Street Fighter: Legend of Chun Li 
Saw VI
Transformers 2

 



Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 5:01am

Originally posted by Headbanger14

And, The Slowness off the Razzie Forums -- LOL! Just kidding (but seriously, this Forum is really slow ...)


Yeah, no disrespect to the Forum itself or its contents, but there are times when I could eat dinner, shower, shave, brush my teeth and be in bed in the time it takes to look up certain threads and/or post replies to them.

As for us "needing" one comedy, one action, one drama, etc. we don't "need" anything other than just five choices. All these movies suck regardless of what their genres are. But by the looks of it, the final five are all going to be action movies .... and "New Moon." 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I, too, am often frustrated with how slowly certain functions of our Forum work. We are unsure what the problem is (we've been reassured it's not the volume of material itself) and are working to see what can be done to speed things up a notch...


 



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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 9:46am

Just out of curiosity, how many nods are gonna be under each category on the nominating ballot?  While you give me the answer I'll throw my Top 10 Signs You're Dealing with a Bad Film Adaptation:

10. The title ends in "Movie".
9. You look at the screenplay and say, "Seriously!?"
8. It's based on something http://www.cracked.com/photoshop_6_30-things-that-should-never-be-adapted-to-film/ - absurd .
7. A familiar name or face in the trailer makes the audience shudder.
6. There is no preset plot in whatever it's based on.
5. On opening night, it's met with jeers.
4. It's a victim of its own publicity campaign.
3. No one knows it's coming out, therefore it doesn't make much money.
2. It garners an RT rating of less than...I don't know...25%?
1. It's part of an annoying franchise that turns moviegoers into morons.



Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 2:54pm

Geez, Louise Miguel...just list your choices.

Meanwhile, I don't think Stink Panther 2 is getting nearly enough disrespect here. I know it came out last February and the pain has largely worn off by now, but I suggest (with all due respect to the misery it will create) another viewing by the voters. It may not win, but it should be a cinch on the nominating ballot and probably deserves a spot in the final 5 as well.



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Geez, Louise Miguel...just list your choices.


Yeah, seriously! I thought he dropped the tiresome cryptic messages routine.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 5:38pm
I thought I did on the first page.


Posted By: dEd Grimley
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 1:42am
I could be wrong, but I think he was just listing criteria.

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Posted By: movieman
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 5:47am
Say, why isn't Obessed on here? Wouldn't that qualify as a rip-off of
Fatal Attraction?


Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by movieman

Say, why isn't Obessed on here? Wouldn't that qualify as a rip-off of
Fatal Attraction?


He does have a good point right there.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 6:31am

Obsessed is such a horrible rip-off of previous movies (Fatal Attraction and The Hand That Rocks the Cradle) that it should be on this list.

Since the first ballot contains 12 movies, here's the 12 I'd recommend:

Alvin & the Upchucks 2
Dragonball Evolution
Fame 2009
The Final Destination
Friday The 13th 2009
Land Of The Lost
Obsessed
Pink Panther 2
Saw VI
Street Fighter 2
Transformers 2
Transylmania

 



Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:40pm

Having said that, I join with the others to split the categories again.  There are three reasons for this. 

One, we have at least 12 contenders that are prequels/sequels and at least 19 contenders that are remakes/ripoffs, so you have enough to do it.  Let me demonstrate:

Prequels/Sequels:
Alvin & The Upchucks
Angels & Demons
Fast & Furious
The Final Destination
Halloween 2
Land of the Lost
Pink Panther 2
Saw VI
Street Figher: The Legend of Chun-Li
Transformers 2
Twilight: The New Moon
Underworld: Rise of the Lycans

Remakes/Ripoffs
A Christmas Carol
Dance Flick
(aka the Wayans Brothers Give Selzterberg a Year Off)
Dragonball Evolution
Fame 2009
Friday the 13th 2009
Ghosts of Girlfriends Past
GI: Joe
Hannah Montana: The Movie
A Haunting In Connecticut
Knowing
Last House On The Left
Law Abiding Citizen
Obsessed
Old Dogs
Sorority Row
Spread
The Stepfather
Transylmania
Whiteout

Two, you give more movies a chance to get the drumming they deserve.

Three, we have waaayyyy too many prequels/sequels/remakes/rip-offs coming up in 2010.  I haven't counted, but there may possibly be enough to split the category into three categories if [HA HA I said "IF"] those movies are bad enough.  So, by splitting the category early for 2009, you'll serve notice that for 2010, the Razzie members are paying attention and have their shredders on the ready.  We'll be telling the movie industry:  "You wanna do prequels/sequels/remakes/rip-offs some more?  Hey, we'll be more than happy to oblige. . . ."



Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 1:04pm
OH, I've GOT to put Pink Panther 2 above everything else, with Land of the Lost a
VERY distant second. 

I never recovered from Steve Martin's first desecration of Inspector Clouseau!

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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 12:28pm
Given only 5 titles, I'm hoping these nominees will be...

Fast & Furious
The Final Destination
Friday the 13th [remake]
The Pink Panther 2
Saw VI

PS. I must admit... I also thought it was better as Remake or Ripoff and Prequel or Sequel. I can't get my facts straight on why they were reunited for 2008.
 
RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: We combined them in 2008 to streamline our ceremony, which at an hour fifteen for 2007 was in danger of becoming overlong (kinda like All Those Other Award Shows we exist to make fun of). For 2009, we kept them combined because we have 3 special dis-honors for Worst Actor, Worst Actress and Worst Picture of the Decade and, again, wanted to keep our total show time under 90 minutes... 


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 3:11pm
You should've at least nominated http://www.razzies.com/forum/my-life-in-ruins_forum360.html - MY LIFE IN RUINS .

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by Vits

You should've at least nominated http://www.razzies.com/forum/my-life-in-ruins_forum360.html - MY LIFE IN RUINS .
It wasn't a remake, sequel, rip-off, or prequel of anything.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 8:19am
Then why is the poster at the beginnin'of the forum?

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 11:01am
Originally posted by Vits

Then why is the poster at the beginnin'of the forum?

I don't know. Nia trying to rip-off her "Big Fat Greek Wedding" success by playing the same charactor yet again?


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 11:52am
Well,I don't care what it is.The point is that it could've been nominated.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 2:06pm
The winner should've been http://www.razzies.com/forum/final-destination-3d_forum380.html - .

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by Vits

The winner should've been http://www.razzies.com/forum/final-destination-3d_forum380.html - - - THE FINAL DESTINATION .
Yeah, that movie was s***, but "Land Of The Lost" was a bigger failure at the box office, as well as being ripped apart by critics. Plus, I recall that HeadRazz was the deciding vote. It was a tie between "LOTL" and "Trannies 2".

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