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Early Discussion of EXPENDABLES...

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Category: 31st Annual RAZZIE® Award Nominees & "WINNERS"
Forum Name: THE EXPENDABLES
Forum Discription: Nominated for WORST DIRECTOR / Sylvester Stallone
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Topic: Early Discussion of EXPENDABLES...
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Early Discussion of EXPENDABLES...
Date Posted: March 22 2010 at 10:43am
Until you see all their names stacked one atop another like so many wrecked careers in a junkyard, you may not believe this many lousy actors could be lined up for a single film. But here's a http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_expendables/pictures/13.php#highlighted_picture - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_expendables/pictures/13.php#highlighted_picture - ® Dream Team Movie of All Time: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_expendables/pictures/13.php#highlighted_picture -

All we can say is...WOW!


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Ye Olde Head RAZZberry



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 22 2010 at 11:34am
Wow indeed! I have a feeling this movie is going to break all the records set by the likes of "Battlefield Earth," "Showgirls" and "I Know Who Killed Me." You might even need to create 10 more catagories just to give MORE awards to this movie! 

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: PopcornAvenger
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 6:21am
Eh, I don't see Awnold in there. Too busy governing, I guess.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb, though, and bet that this movie won't be as bad as it certainly has the potential to be  . . . and since when has Rourke been considered a lousy actor?  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: FYI, Ah-Nuld apparently has a brief "cameo" in EXPENDABLES -- And http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000620/ - )...  


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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 9:36am
Here's http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14296365/the_expendables/videos/expendables_trlr_040110.html - to check out the just-released http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14296365/the_expendables/videos/expendables_trlr_040110.html - for what looks like one of 2010's RAZZIE® Essentials: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14296365/the_expendables/videos/expendables_trlr_040110.html - , whose cast includes almost every RAZZIE® "winning" Worst Actor from our first two decades -- As well as the RAZZIE-Ready dialogue exchange: 

"What's wrong with this picture?"  

"EVERYTHING!" 


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14296365/the_expendables/videos/expendables_trlr_040110.html -


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 1:27pm
Well, that's gotta be a shoo-in for a Razzie sweep! 

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 8:11pm
This includes "guest appearances" by Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with so many action movie co-stars, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/ - the list is eye-popping.   

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Yes, this movie almost looks like it was MADE for the purpose of sweeping http://razzies.com/join.asp - !


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 8:27pm
I'm sure it's being looked at as the shoo-in to sweep next year's awards!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Balboa6
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 5:49pm
Of course. Because it's not an independent art house film filled with overly sentimental, self indulgent pseudo-intellectual characters preaching about their political ideologies, it's just so terrible! Believe it or not, action films are not always shallow--in fact I'd say most are not-- they merely sometimes have simplistic plots and are straight forward, but that in no way renders the stories meaningless or sub-par. This will be a fantastic movie with a strong story and a fast paced plot, but of course the painfully ignorant fools who CHOOSE to rag on anything Stallone does will bash this film, but it doesn't matter what the man does. He could act in a film directed by Clint Eastwood and co-star alongside the hottest A-list actors in the business and people would still bitch and moan. 

Either way, The Razzies are a joke and I have yet to hear or read any explanations behind their negativity toward Stallone that make the slightest bit of sense. All my life I have been a fan and I have yet to come across one thing you and your awards have said that doesn't include lies, exaggerations, and generalizations. 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Okay, here's a generalization that ought to really get you going: 93% of everything Stallone has ever done (as an actor, writer and director) has centered on mindless violence, monosyllabic dialogue and an extreme emphasis on explosions over actual exposition or believable characters... 

Also, has it occurred to you that if anyone but yourself and a handful of other rabid action movie fans agreed with you about Stallone's career and our attitude toward him, the media and general public would have lost interest in us years ago? Instead, traffic to our site jumped about 3400% when "winners" of this year's http://www.razzies.com/history/09release.asp - ® were announced in early March of this year...  



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Posted By: Balboa6
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 5:57pm
LOL! Wow, you people are truly delusional. You really believe The Razzies have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skulls, people: The Razzies are a joke and your so called "opinions" are uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting valid arguments. Give it up already. You're done.  Nobody takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to rag on Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life. 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Exactly where did you get the idea that the RAZZIES® want to be taken seriously?!?!? We've never suggested we took our awards (or ourselves) with even a modicum of seriousness. In other words, yes, the RAZZIES® ARE a joke...DUH!  

If you come at us with no understanding of that basic fact, then I would argue that anything and everything you have to say is invalid and irrelevant...


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 6:19pm
Okay. #1 We MIGHT respect Stallone if he did star in an Eastwood-directed movie alongside a bunch of A-list stars. At least then he wouldn't be writing or directing the movie, which he has proven he's not good at (outside of Rocky/Rambo). And he would have the rest of the cast to carry him throughout the movie, rather than being around a bunch of other action stars whose acting skills are either equal to, or less than, his own.
 
And #2. If you don't like the Razzies, then simply DON'T POST HERE. Nothing you say will change our opinion of Stallone, and you're just setting yourself up to be knocked down.  


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by Balboa6

LOL! Wow, you people are truly delusional. You really believe The Razzies have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skulls, people: The Razzies are a joke and your so called "opinions" are uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting valid arguments. Give it up already. You're done.  Nobody takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to rag on Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life. 
Are the Razzies a creditable award? Not really. They are pretty much on par with all the other public vote awards (People's/Kids'/Teens' Choice, MTV Movie Awards, etc.). The main difference is that the Razzies are the ONLY public vote award show that tells it like it is. They razz Hollywood for being full of unwatchable, talentless s***, rather than celebrate their lackluster product like the other award shows do.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 10:40pm

This film is not guaranteed to sweep the Razzies because it's competing against other baddies like The Bounty Hunter, Sex and the City 2, The Karate Kid, and The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.



Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 18 2010 at 10:10am
Ah, but look at the track record of anything starring Stallone and the Razzies! He attracts Razzies like a moth to a flame... 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: And I just saw in the L.A. Times that Stallone also is directing it. As yer Founder and Head RAZZberry, I gotta disagree with BHB -- EXPENDABLES looks to be about as Surefire a http://www.razzies.com/forum/sked-for-31st-razzies-83rd-oscars_topic876.html - http://www.razzies.com/forum/sked-for-31st-razzies-83rd-oscars_topic876.html - http://www.razzies.com/forum/sked-for-31st-razzies-83rd-oscars_topic876.html -


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: April 20 2010 at 9:09pm
Balboa, I am reaching the point where I truly feel sorry for you. Evidently, you don't read many of the posts here...even those of them that have been directed specifically to you. 

I'm pretty sure that I have told YOU very directly in the past that, in point of fact, NONE of us take this very seriously. In fact -- and I'm sure I can offer this observation with the full agreement of Head Razz -- this entire enterprise has been tongue-in-cheek from day one.  

Originally posted by Balboa6

LOL! Wow, you people are truly delusional. You really believe The Razzies have credibility, don't you?


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Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 11:40am

Do you really want to risk your popularity by committing your biggest cliche and not saving the awards for something worse?



Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 11:49am
I really doubt there will be anything worse than this movie, short of a last minute Uwe Boll or Seltzerberg production.     

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Do you really want to risk your popularity by committing your biggest cliche and not saving the awards for something worse?





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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 6:09pm
Head Razz, this clip looks like "The B-Team" Wink


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 11:16am
More like "The Z-Team"!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: -1
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 5:15am
Wow, Balboa6 -- you are truly delusional. You really believe these guys have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skull, person: Most of this cast is a joke and your so-called "opinion" is uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting a valid argument. Give it up already. You're done. Nobody here takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to worship Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life.Wink
 
 
The worst part is, this post is filled with valid criticisms of Balboa6 and they are all copied directly from him -- See below!LOL  

Originally posted by Balboa6

LOL! Wow, you people are truly delusional. You really believe The Razzies have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skulls, people: The Razzies are a joke and your so called "opinions" are uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting valid arguments. Give it up already. You're done.  Nobody takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to rag on Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life. 





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One push is all you need.....


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 11:33am
First off, -1, welcome to the forum. Now, Balboa6, here, he's nothing to get worked up about. He just shows up every now and then, usually around the time the Razzie nods and winners are annouced, proclaiming what a great actor Stallone. We don't take him at all seriously, and neither should you. Otherwise, enjoy the forum. 
 
Originally posted by -1

Wow, Balboa6 -- you are truly delusional. You really believe these guys have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skull, person: Most of this cast is a joke and your so-called "opinion" is uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting a valid argument. Give it up already. You're done. Nobody here takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to worship Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life.Wink


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: -1
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 1:28am
Don't worry, I was just having fun. I know not to take him seriously. Wink

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One push is all you need.....


Posted By: ziesha
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 1:32am
hey this is very strange that you don't like the expendables movie, in fact i really love it  especially its cast and crew ! 


Posted By: ziesha
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 1:37am
hey this is very strange that you don't like the expendables movie, in fact i really love it  especially its cast and crew ! 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 3:42pm
The cast and crew is the reason why we hate Expendables, because they're almost all past Razzie nominees and/or "winners."

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Balboa6
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 5:06pm
The difference is those things don't apply to me. The reason others here have said they don't take me seriously is because I question them. I actually say something instead of acting like a mindless zombie and going with the flow, just accepting whatever criticism they decide to spew. 99.9% of the criticism is absolutely unwarranted. I'm sorry, but anyone who has even the slightest inkling that Stallone is even close to being the worst actor of all time has obviously been leading an extraordinarily sheltered life. I mean you can actually sit there, being absolutely honest and tell me with 100% sincerity that out of all of the truly horrid actors and films that exist, Stallone is the person you think of as being #1--even close to the top??? Really think about it. People consistently pigeonhole him, regardless of the fact that he actually has done a number of different types of films.  The fact of the matter is, most people can't seem to tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Most people, particularly those who run this site, for some reason can't wrap their minds around the fact that Rocky Balboa is a fictional character. Every single thing about him--the way he talks and his vocabulary, his body language, the way he carries himself, every little nuance is the result of a performance--A PERFORMANCE. In other words, it is not real. Does that compute? People think Stallone IS Rocky Balboa and that's about as absurd as saying Al Pacino IS Tony Montana. He has played a wide variety of characters, but people here don't pay attention. People always miss the point, but then turn around and give something like Scott Pilgrim V.S. The World praise. It's ludicrous. Opinions are one thing, but when people start blowing things way out of proportion, misunderstanding what something actually is, fabricating things, generalizing, etc, yes I am going to say something. Yeah, I pop up here once in a while, as opposed to every hour on the hour, because I don't LIVE on this f**king forum, unlike some of the people here. Just don't expect to not be called out when you're publicly bashing or painting a negative picture of someone which involves falsehoods.

Originally posted by -1

Wow, Balboa6 -- you are truly delusional. You really believe these guys have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skull, person: Most of this cast is a joke and your so-called "opinion" is uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting a valid argument. Give it up already. You're done. Nobody here takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to worship Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life.Wink
 
 
The worst part is, this post is filled with valid criticisms of Balboa6 and they are all copied directly from him -- See below!LOL  

Originally posted by Balboa6

LOL! Wow, you people are truly delusional. You really believe The Razzies have credibility, don't you? Get it through your thick skulls, people: The Razzies are a joke and your so called "opinions" are uninformed and based upon nothing more than exaggerated generalizations. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are incapable of presenting valid arguments. Give it up already. You're done.  Nobody takes you seriously. It's really sad. If you need so much attention and have to rag on Stallone for fabricated reasons in order to get it, you have a serious problem in life. 





Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 6:22pm
I for one, DO NOT think of Stallone as the worst actor ever. I think the Razzies making him a running gag has gotten tiresome and they should move on. HOWEVER, by no means is he a great actor either. As I have debated in other posts, Stallone is a pop culture icon for Rocky and Rambo, I'll give him credit for that. Sadly, the quality of the movies for both series went into downward spirals over the years. But as for him being in "different" movies, the problem is he plays the same TWO roles in those movies. He's either the lovable oaf like Rocky, or the bad-ass killing machine like Rambo. When he's not going "ah gee, ah shucks", he laying waste to everyone who gets within his line of vision. That is why he has been typecasted. Yes, "Rocky 1" was a good movie, however, did Stallone really need to milk it for FIVE more movies? Playing the same role SIX times is not going to help you NOT be typecasted. He has only himself to blame for that. As for "Scott Pilgrim", people praise it because it something they wanted: something new, something different, something fun. Yeah, Michael Cera plays the same character in every movie he plays in, but that movie had it's finger on the pulse of current day American pop culture of music, comic books, and video games, and that is why people related to it and liked it. As I have said before to other Stallone fans here, you may have your opinions of the man, some might be more for the love of the Rocky character than the love of Stallone's acting abilities, but you're not going to convince anyone here that Stallone should be considered one of the great actors of all time. Sorry, that's just not happening.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 2:04pm
I am very amused by one sentence in your post, Balboa 6. Sylvester Stallone isn't the worst actor ever, I admit, but really: "His vocabulary? Body language? Little nuance?" LOL Are we still talking about the same actor??  

I remember reading the autobiography of Rutger Hauer (a decent actor who picks bad roles). In one chapter he discribes how it was working on the set of Nighthawks with Billy Dee Williams and Stallone. It explains how Sly was a total control freak and it was his film from the start. He fired (and replaced) the first director of this film because he wouldn't give him total control of this movie. Hauer was playing an East-German terrorist and he excually wanted to do some research on how these people think, so that he could play the part with more NUANCE. Stallone wouldn't stand for it and simply wanted a movie in which he was the GOOD guy and big hero of the picture and Hauer was the BAD guy with no redeeming qualities (because a villian just couldn't have any depth).


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Posted By: Deepanshu
Date Posted: January 25 2011 at 8:02pm
You might even need to create 10 more catagories just to give MORE awards to this movie! 

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Posted By: Jennifar
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 11:08am
I have a feeling this movie is going to break all the records set by the likes of "Battlefield Earth," "Showgirls" and "I Know Who Killed Me."


Posted By: Jennifar
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 6:14am
I'm going to go out on a limb, though, and bet that this movie won't be as bad as it certainly has the potential to be  . . . and since when has Rourke been considered a lousy actor?  



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