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YO, HO...HEAVE HO??!?!?

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Forum Name: PIRATES of the CAROB-BEAN #4
Forum Discription: Dizz-Knee Goes Another Round on the High Seas...
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4266
Printed Date: October 24 2014 at 11:24pm


Topic: YO, HO...HEAVE HO??!?!?
Posted By: cvcjr13
Subject: YO, HO...HEAVE HO??!?!?
Date Posted: March 21 2010 at 3:05am
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1634348/story.jhtml - MTV News announces that Penelope Cruz will be Johnny Depp's love interest in PotC4.  She'll play the daughter of Blackbeard, Captain Jack's nemesis.  Geoffrey Rush will be back, too.  

My question is, will it be as bad as At World's End...or will it be even worse? 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I found http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pirates_of_the_caribbean_3/ -  to be one of the most headache-inducing, impossible-to-follow, soul-numbing movie-going experiences of the last decade. So the prospect of a 4th installment fills me with both dread...and anticipation!  




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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 21 2010 at 6:24am
Well so long as the visual effects aren't as bloated and overused and they don't keep mentioned "the rum is gone" every five seconds, it could be better than "AWE".

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 8:16am
I was convinced On Stranger Tides wouldn't be released until 2011. At World's End, I thought was fair. Not great, not as bad as the RAZZIES say, but somewhere between average and decent.

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: March 24 2010 at 4:40pm
I haven't even been on the ride four times in my life...why would I want to see 4 movies?

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 24 2010 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I haven't even been on the ride four times in my life...why would I want to see 4 movies?
Actually, I think around the time of the second or third movie, they changed the ride so that it follows Jack Sparrow and a story that's closer to what's in the movies. So I guess you'll have to take the ride for a 5th time, saturnwatcher.
 
But yeah, I don't know how you could get four movies out of a 15 minute ride with no storyline outside of a dog holding the keys to a jail cell and voices saying "dead men tell no tales".


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: ziesha
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 3:56am
Originally posted by cvcjr13

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1634348/story.jhtml - MTV News announces that Penelope Cruz will be Johnny Depp's love interest in PotC4.  She'll play the daughter of Blackbeard, Captain Jack's nemesis.  Geoffrey Rush will be back, too.  

My question is, will it be as bad as At World's End...or will it be even worse? 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I found http://www.razzies.com/forum/pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-at-wits-end_forum197.html - -


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 12:08am
WOW... horrible teaser (first video).

The trailer (second video) is better but it also isn't really good.

Rob Marshall (director of Chicago/Nine) seems to be directing, strange choice.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 10:20pm
Like I said, I saw the trailers, and I'm not impressed. They are using the same jokes that got old by the end of the first movie.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 5:31am
The new trailer is kinda good. I mean I can't wait, call me crazy, but I didn't like At World's End, that much.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 8:28am
Originally posted by Grounder the Critic

The new trailer is kinda good. I mean I can't wait, call me crazy, but I didn't like At World's End, that much.
You CRAZY! I kid, I kid. I understand it looks to be a fun and entertaining movie, I'm just saying it won't be a great movie by any means.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: krios03grad
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 11:44pm
Why does everybody make such a big deal of Johnny Depp anyway? I liked the background layout of Alice in Wonderland but I just hated the storyline and the way the characters looked! Kind of pre-gayish don't you think and very confusing? The last good movie I saw with him in it was Edward Scissorhands! I don't mind that this movie gets 2 or 3 Razzies!


Posted By: Kphilly
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 5:53am
I know POTC at the worlds end was pretty sh*tty but I am still looking forward to watching the new one, just because of Johnny Depp.


Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 2:58pm
I can't join the hate bandwagon for Pirates Four...well at least not yet.  I liked the movies, despite the latter's flaws, and need to wait and see if this new one will work out or truly nuke the fridge like Indy 4 did.

The IMDB users give At World's End a 7.0, which is lower than the other two PotC films, but still respectable.

And don't get started with my father.  He is an addict.  He frequently says "Thank you, Jack" in common situations, to the point it gets on my nerves, and "Aye, That be True" among other things.  Yeah, he's obsessed.  He probably will want to pay to see "On Stranger Tides" on an IMAX screen.

I also am aware of the hate.  I remember the Simpsons episode "Apocalypse Cow" having Bart driving a combine harvester.  He drives over straw, making bales of straw.  He drives over water, making bales of water (which splash out). He drives over manure, and makes bales of "Pirates of the Caribbean 3" DVDs.

Still, I will keep watch, from RT and IMDB.  I want to see how this plays out.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 3:06pm

Berrynoia, You know that the IMDB-rating is worthless, mostly because the film hasn't been officially released yet and a lot of fans of the series probably gave it a ten without even seeing the movie yet.

But i'll probebly see this one on the big screen just like i did with the previous Pirates-films.



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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 4:08pm
All I have to say is that "Pirates 5" is already in the works. Can't anyone wait to see if the movie is a success first? I think it was said best before elsewhere on the forum, every studio wants its "James Bond" series that lasts for 50 years!

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 2:32pm

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pirates_of_the_caribbean_on_stranger_tides/ - At 55% on Rotten Tomatoes at the moment...



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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 3:09pm
So we should wait until May 20 before upgrading this to an official forum. I can't say if the reviews will descend, but as usual, if they do... *falters*

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 5:50am
Originally posted by GTAHater767

So we should wait until May 20 before upgrading this to an official forum. I can't say if the reviews will descend, but as usual, if they do... *falters*


The question is should this be upgraded to an official forum? It currently seems to be in the 60's on RT, It will probably descent to the low 50's or somewere in the 40's. Is that bad enough to give it a forum?


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 11:40am
I say no. I was afraid of sounding like moviewizguy by saying this shouldn't be upgraded. I tend to look more at the reviews, while many others also focus on who the movies star and what the films remind them of. Personally, I like when movies with negative reviews are given the highest priority, because then the list of bad movies nominated come the following winter really are the worst the film industry has to offer.

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 2:04pm
The reason why this movie would be Razzie worthy is because of descending quality of the series in the past. The original movie was great, with a developed story, likable characters, and clever dialogue, but then the sequels were painful because all they did was rely on rehashing scenes and lines from the first movie ... and also using a metric-ton of CGI. If they were already falling back on the original movie by the time of the FIRST sequel, what are they going to do with this THIRD sequel? Plus, there's the ever haunting "curse of the fourth installment of the movie series", usually resulting with the worst installment of the series, ie. "Batman & Robin", "Star Wars: Phantom Menace", "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", "Indiana Jones 4", etc. In my opinion, this movie is worthy of its own forum. The worst that can happen is that we're proven wrong, it'll be among the 1 out of 10 times that the Razzies are wrong in choosing a Worst Movie of the Weak. 

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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 3:51pm
That's fine until it gets nominated without deserving it simply because the voters knew its name. Drive Angry 3D was one thing. Less than half as many people knew about it. I still remember At World's End, Book of Secrets, and Transformers 1 (I only dislike Revenge of the Fallen). There were many worse movies released in 2007 that deserved nominations, including Alvin & the Chipmunks, Georgia Rule, Delta Farce, Resident Evil: Extinction, The Seeker: The Dark is Rising, The Comebacks, and even Saw IV. For all I know, On Stranger Tides, Scream 4, and Drive Angry 3D could rob a deserving movie like Just Go With It or Red Riding Hood of a nomination, and it wouldn't reflect the worst the film industry had to offer this year.

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 4:10pm
You're jumping a little ahead of us, GTAHater. I only said "On Stranger Tides" should get its own forum ... not that it should be a shoe-in for Worst Picture (although maybe Worst Sequel).

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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by Michaels

Plus, there's the ever haunting "curse of the fourth installment of the movie series", usually resulting with the worst installment of the series, ie. "Batman & Robin", "Star Wars: Phantom Menace", "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", "Indiana Jones 4", etc.
The original STAR WARS trilogy and the prequel trilogy are often considered separate series.The same with the X-MEN trilogy and the ORIGINS movies.But yeah,you're right.


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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Vits

The original STAR WARS trilogy and the prequel trilogy are often considered separate series.The same with the X-MEN trilogy and the ORIGINS movies.But yeah,you're right.
First of all, as much as I would like to cosider them separate series, the truth of the matter is that they are prequels, and they are part of the chronological events of the overall series, unlike reboots like Nolan's Batman movies or the upcoming Spider-Man reboot. Secondly, based on the order that they were filmed and released, they are the fourth installments of the series. And finally ... they just plan sucked!

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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 5:29pm
For May 1, 2009, how angry were you that Ghosts of Girlfriends Past got a forum here instead of Origins: Wolverine?
 
And on jumping ahead, if the reviews are below 15% approval, it's a shoe-in for something. For movies whose names everyone knows, if they get below 30% approval, it's usually a shoe-in for something, and if it gets a forum here, that 30% jumps to about 50%. Which is why I'm hoping On Stranger Tides won't get a forum here under current circumstances.


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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 9:08pm
I wasn't at all angry at the "Ghosts Of Girlfriends' Past" over "Origins: Wolverine" thing, mostly because I saw "GOGP" as just another rehashing of "A Christmas Carol", and we all know how much Hollywood LOVES public domain material (they can rehash it every ten years ... or every 6 months!). I'll take a bad comic book movie over Hollywood reaching into it's bag of public domain tricks for the millionth time. For example: this year, I'd gladly see "X-Men: First Class" over the 10 billionth adaptation of "The Three Musketeers", but that's just me.
 
As for RT, I don't care if 50% is considered "fresh", as far as I'm concerned, anything at 50% or below is up for Razzie grabs!


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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 9:38pm
Why 50% instead of 35%? There are enough movies below 35% to take up all the nominations every year. If you would want a movie with 46% (merely below average) to get nominations, especially in lieu of a movie with maybe 26% (putting it generously), why? I'm asking because I've always been confused about that.

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by GTAHater767

Why 50% instead of 35%? There are enough movies below 35% to take up all the nominations every year. If you would want a movie with 46% (merely below average) to get nominations, especially in lieu of a movie with maybe 26% (putting it generously), why? I'm asking because I've always been confused about that.
I don't know. I just see 50% as not good or bad, it's the half way point. So anything below 50% should be considered bad, in my opinion.

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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 11:07am
GTAhater, It has now dropped to 40%, If it were to near the 35% (by having something like 36/37%) would you agree with it getting a forum?

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Posted By: Michaels
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by Vheid

GTAhater, It has now dropped to 40%, If it were to near the 35% (by having something like 36/37%) would you agree with it getting a forum?
It has a little over 40 reviews so far, almost 30 saying it's rotten. If this trend keeps up, I think it's safe to say that it's one of ours.

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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)



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