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Even MovieWiz Guy Won't Defend This One!!

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Forum Name: MY SOUL TO TAKE
Forum Discription: Another "BOO in the Night" Horror Flick...in 3-D Yet!
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Topic: Even MovieWiz Guy Won't Defend This One!!
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Even MovieWiz Guy Won't Defend This One!!
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 5:32pm
LIKE SO MANY BUCKETS of BLOOD DUMPED on MOVIE-GOER's HEADS for HALLOWEEN SEASON, EVERY FRIDAY THIS OCTOBER BRINGS ONE (OR MORE!) LOUSY HORROR MOVIES, MANY of THEM SHAMELESSLY PIGGY-BACKING (OR IS THAT PIGGY-BLADDER-FULL-of-BLOOD-BACKING?) on the CURRENT, SOON-to-DIE-of-OVER-EXPOSURE 3-D CRAZE. 

FOR the SECOND FRIDAY of OCTOBER, IT's http://www.razzies.com/forum/my-soul-to-take_forum462.html%20 -
WITH EVEN MOVIE-WIZ-GUY SAYING IT LOOKS DUMB, THIS ONE LOOKS DOOMED...



GIRL: "Turn off the TV!  TURN OFF THE TV!!!" 

GUY: "But I can't believe the critics said THAT about 
our movie!"  



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Ye Olde Head RAZZberry



Replies:
Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 5:54pm
Haha. A thread dedicated to me? THANKS. Embarrassed


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 7:02pm
I completely overlooked this one.  How can Wes Craven, a legend in horror films, make something terrible?
 
Speaking of terrible, what Samuel Bayer and Wesley Strick did to Craven's NoES franchise comes to DVD Tuesday.  If you want a good horror film, get 'Splice' instead.


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 7:50pm
I really want to see Splice. I avoided it in theaters, knowing audiences would laugh through it, especially in the third act because it isn't your normal horror film. I tend to avoid horror films in theaters because of people trying to act funny and popping jokes throughout. It annoys me.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 8:21pm
Anyone wonder why I hate going to horror movies?Because they attract the dumbest, rudest, and most annoying audiences in the world.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 8:23pm
I would suggest that a new Razzie category be listed, "Movies So Bad, Not Even moviewizguy Approves Of Them" ... but it would be a very short list!  

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Haha. A thread dedicated to me? THANKS. Embarrassed 


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 11:07pm
It's 6 days until your US release date and not a single review in yet. But I guess we've gotta 'give 'em time' (there'll possibly be a review of it in my Empire Magazine).  
 
This topic also gives me an idea for a potential new Razzie category:  
  
'Worst Attempt at a Career Revival'  


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 6:48am
All of the young men in this film are in their early 20's, but they just look under 18. The problem as I see it is... Wes Craven should've gotten his fill of dream-tied killers with the Nightmare on Elm Street series.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 7:46am
BHB: I always thought that The Twilight Saga attracted the 'dumbest, rudest, and most annoying' audience in the world.  

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Anyone wonder why I hate going to horror movies?Because they attract the dumbest, rudest, and most annoying audiences in the world.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 11:34am
Dumb, maybe. Annoying, sure. But rudest? No. 

No one is ruder than a teenager in a theater during a horror movie (or, a teenager during ANY movie for that matter!)...  


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 12:22pm
How can Wes Craven make something terrible? It depends on what you see. NEW NIGHTMARE was more creative than the original NIGHTMARE, but less scary -- and with awful effects. SCREAM was a little more funny than scary. And RED EYE...well,I'm probably the only one here who didn't like it. 
 
Originally posted by Film Reel Redemption

This topic also gives me an idea for a potential new Razzie category:  'Worst Attempt at a Career Revival'
 
I think Razzie categories should be more about the movies than the people who make them. But it could exist...after all, I'm sure you all remember http://www.razzies.com/forum/2005-razzie-nominees-winners_topic668.html - "Most Tiresome Tabloid Targets" ! Anyway,I wouldn't say his career is "dead."


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 1:43pm
How can Wes Craven make something terrible? Because he's no longer in touch with what scares people any more.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 5:30pm
What do you mean? The last movie Craven directed was RED EYE, which had good reviews (I still don't know why). He has written and/or produced some bad movies after that, but scaring people is a little more related to the directing. 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: For those who care, here's http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1149496-1149496-red_eye/ - to read reviews on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421239/ - ...  




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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 9:59pm
My point was, if you don't know what scares people, you can't make a good horror movie. Thus, Craven goes back to the well and does the usual teenagers-dying-one-by-one thing, like he does here. Meanwhile, "Paranormal Activity," a super low budget movie about such basic human fears as what happens when we sleep, was a run-away success. 

So, my suggestion to Mister Craven: Less cliches, less blood-and-guts, more scares based on what people actually fear...


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 2:01pm
For the third time, what makes you say Craven doesn't know how to scare? I know that during his career, he has made bad movies, but if the last movie he directed was the best only good thriller of 2005, his career isn't dead!  


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 2:38pm
Is Craven's career really not dead? When was his last run-away hit? This movie seems like a desperate attempt to get back on top of the genre, but it looks more another epic fail. If he was more in touch with what scares people, their simple, most basic fears, he would mske a good horror movie -- and not the paint-by-numbers crap he made here. Knowing what your audiences wants (or needs) does help in making a good or bad movie...  



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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 12:49pm
Since it won't be pre-screened(Razzie alert!), we'll have to settle for the 0% it's got now. If SCREAM 4 sucks as much as this, maybe then Craven's career will be dead.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 1:56pm
RE: SCREAM 4: We all know how great 4th installments of movie series are! Not including when it's been over 10 years since the last installment!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 2:27pm
Actually, they're planning a new trilogy with the same franchise, not rebooted. So instead of being a bad 4th movie(of which there are too many to list) it could be the equivalent of STAR WARS EPISODE I and TERMINATOR SALVATION.

Oh,oh!  


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 6:52pm
 Dead Imagine if Hollywood was as devoted to creating NEW movies as they are to rehashing old ones. Angry


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 5:15pm
This is at a measly 9% at RT (APPALLING!) I was a trifle disappointed with August and September, because only 6 movies got RAZZIE tags, and only 3 of those got bad reviews. But October looks to have a lot of fodder for our awards!  



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 8:26pm
Of course -- because October is the month of horror movies. Need I say more?  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

This is at a measly 9% at RT (APPALLING!) I was a trifle disappointed with August and September, because only 6 movies got RAZZIE tags, and only 3 of those got bad reviews. But October looks to have a lot of fodder for our awards!  


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 10:05pm
It's official.  This is the worst movie Wes Craven has made since 'Vampire in Brooklyn'.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 5:16am
Ha-ha! "Vampire In Brooklyn!" I almost forgot that movie was ever made. Although, that werewolf movie he made with Christina Ricci sucked, too. Craven's career may be dying at the same pace as M. Night's!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 7:54am
Some reviewers are calling this film "hilarious" in a so-bad-it's-good kind of way:

http://www.film-finder.com/movies/my_soul_to_take/?display=treview - LINK 1

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/lm/fc/28129-luke-film-conscience-my-soul-to-take - LINK 2 (VIDEO REVIEW)

Has Showgirls, met its horror movie match? Maybe!  




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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:16pm
I thought the movie "The Room" already took that honor?  

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

 
Has Showgirls, met its horror movie match? Maybe!  


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:52pm
Then why wasn't The Room nominated for any 2003 RAZZIES? 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: As stated atop our annual List of Eligible Releases ( http://www.razzies.com/forum/the-list-jan-1-april-16_topic4037.html - ) in order to qualify for RAZZIE® consideration, a film has to have played at least a one-week, regular admission theatrical engagement in either New York or Los Angeles during the calendar year for which it is "eligible" -- Needless to say, as a total fiasco upon its initial release (which apparently was so minimal the film was never even reviewed on R.T.) THE ROOM did not meet this standard. 

Having recently seen it on DVD, though, I must say THE ROOM certainly "ranks" way up there on the incompetence scale...  




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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 1:13pm
The Room probably had a very, very, very, VERY limited release? 

Plus, 2003, the year of "Gigli" and "From Justin To Kelly", hard to compete against that.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 4:11pm
Any mention of the movie From Justin to Kelly always makes me smile. I'd have loved to have been in the meeting room when that one was getting pitched. Either someone had some very compromising pictures of whoever was ultimately responsible for greenlighting the project, or that was a room full of VERY drunk people.  

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

The Room probably had a very, very, very, VERY limited release? 

Plus, 2003, the year of "Gigli" and "From Justin To Kelly", hard to compete against that.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 10:37pm
Actually, I think "someone having some very compromising pictures of whoever was ultimately responsible for greenlighting the project" or "pitching to a room full of VERY drunk people" is how 80% (or even 90%) of Hollywood movies get greenlit these days!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 5:38am
Speaking of horror directors trying to revive their careers, another familiar face emerges, with a new movie, into our presence.
 
And that face belongs to none other than 'Halloween' director John Carpenter attempting to break his 9 year directing hiatus with his upcoming Horror/Thriller 'The Ward' (which is currently at 20% on Rotten Tomatoes).  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Before he went totally off the mark with his overly-expensive, underly-whelming 1982 remake of http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19820101/REVIEWS/201010349/1023 - , Carpenter was actually one of my favorite low-budget movie-makers. My personal favorite among his early films is the goose-bump enducingly atmospheric original version of http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1007617-fog/ - , which I originally saw (in a bit of movie serendipity) at a drive-in...  




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You see in this filmmaking world there's two types of people my friend. Those with the knowledge of film and those who think they do but really don't.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 15 2010 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by Film Reel Redemption


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Before he went totally off the mark with his overly-expensive, underly-whelming 1982 remake of http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19820101/REVIEWS/201010349/1023 - , Carpenter was actually one of my favorite low-budget movie-makers. My personal favorite among his early films is the goose-bump enducingly atmospheric original version of http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1007617-fog/ - , which I originally saw (in a bit of movie serendipity) at a drive-in...  
HeadRazz LIKES a John Carpenter movie!? I would have never guessed!


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 10:49am
It's official: This is http://features.metacritic.com/features/2010/films-directed-by-wes-craven/ -




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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 7:08pm
Probably why he's going back to the well with "Scream 4". If all else fails, rehash something that was popular 10+ year ago, that's the true motto of Hollywood!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: mikeslough
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 4:57am
I really want to see Splice. I like to see these kind of movies in theaters, I think it's very interesting when people see a horror movie in a theater, and react as a group.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 12:09pm
Well, it's too late to see Splice in theaters, so your only choice is a rental.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.



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