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Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits!

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Forum Name: SKYLINE
Forum Discription: Look! Up in the Sky! It's a None-Too-Convincing Alien Invasion!!
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Topic: Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits!
Posted By: GTAHater767
Subject: Guess the Sky DUZ Have Limits!
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 3:04pm
NOTE from HEAD RAZZberry: COOL! WHEN WE LEFT for OUR EXTENDED VETERAN'S DAY WEEKEND, WE HAD NOTHING CHOSEN as OUR WORST of the WEAK, SINCE NO REVIEWS WERE AVAILABLE YET on SKYLINE, and UNSTOPPABLE and MORNING GLORY LOOKED UNLIKELY to GET TRULY NASTY REVIEWS. IN OUR ABSENCE, FORUM MEMBERS TOOK UP the FLAG and BEGAN THIS FORUM. 

WE'RE SO BERRY PROUD of OUR BAND of MERRY RAZZERS...OH, and ENJOY!  

WE MAY NEVER FORGET
INDEPENDENCE DAY. IT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF 1996'S WORST TREND IN FILM: BLOCKS BUSTED WITH BAD SCREENPLAYS. IT SET POPULAR CULTURE FOR A FEW YEARS TO COME, AND GOT OK REVIEWS CONSIDERING ITS BIG NAME.
 
OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE 3RD WORST TREND WAS WASTED TALENT IN BAD PERFORMANCES BY ENSEMBLE CASTS. A FEW MOVIES FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR, LIKE STANDING OVATION, WERE THE POLAR OPPOSITE, STARRING MASSIVE NO-NAME CASTS.
 
GREG AND COLIN STROUSE, THE BROTHERS OF ALIEN VS PREDATOR INFAMY, HAVE NOW DIRECTED THIS WANNABE INDEPENDENCE DAY SUCCESSOR, BUT IT SPORTS AN ABYSMAL 15% AT ROTTEN TOMATOES AND 27% AT METACRITIC.
 
NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO AIRSTRIKE THIS PITIFUL BLEU RIP-OFF A NEW OZONE HOLE!
 
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WATCHING SKYLINE GAVE ME A BAD CASE OF THE UGLIES!


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 8:10pm
Considering how bad "AVP 2" was, I'm surprised this brother duo managed to get another movie of their's greenlit. But, like Kevin Smith once said, "In Hollywood, you fail UPWARDS".

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 8:15pm
I mentioned this in another thread, but this film was made for the bargain basement price of $10 million, and may just barely make it back. After a $4 million opening day, bad word of mouth will probably sink it quickly enough that it will be out there on DVD for you to give to all the people you don't like for Christmas.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:06pm
They managed to get it greenlit because they greenlit it themselves. It was independently produced with a minuscule budget of $10 million. Shocked


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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 5:25am

Let's go through the 'Usual Sci-fi film like this' checklist:

Bad script - check
Characters we don't give a s*** about - check
Overuse of CGI which they think we're gonna be impressed by even though were not - DOUBLE CHECK
 
In which case... come to the Razzie forum Skyline, we've got candy (eye candy that is).


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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 6:08am
Good thing I didn't see it. I only paid money for Unstoppable instead. Now that movie has a good cast, good script, and a good plot.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:36am
"A minuscule budget of $10 million"?? Ah, that explains it then. No wonder, considering it looks like a bad Sy-Fy Channel movie with some decent SFX and make-up.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 5:39pm
I Stumbled out of the theater this morning after seeing SKYLINE. Truly a world class RAZZIE contender. The audience I was with at the Grove were actually goofing on the film a la MST3K and they cheered for the aliens. Most of the film was shot indoors, the script was just plain awful and they kept running up and down the staircases of their condo. You actually wind up HATING the main characters, the film just plods on and on and on to the point you want to go to the box office and demand your money back and a rebate for the diet soda you drank. And believe me, when you walked to the bathroom during the film and you came back, you didn't miss anything! This deserves MULTIPLE RAZZIE NOMINATIONS!


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 6:33pm
Oh yeah, if the crowd goes into MST3K mode (like I did with "Devil"), you definitely have a Razzie contender on your hands!


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 8:37pm
BTW, that isn't vaporization that is being depicted in that scene.  Those little black spots are people being sucked up into the spacecraft. 


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 8:48pm
The trailers spoke of vanishing into thin air or something like that. I never heard any trailers explicitly mention spacecraft abduction.

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 9:43pm
You know, I'm never quite sure what to do when you tell someone the truth, and they blow you off for whatever is in their head.
 
If you won't believe me, please go check it out.  It's the Internet.  The plot is out there already. 

Originally posted by GTAHater767

The trailers spoke of vanishing into thin air or something like that. I never heard any trailers explicitly mention spacecraft abduction.
 


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 9:59pm
I deleted the caption. I'm really bad at those.

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by GTAHater767

I deleted the caption. I'm really bad at those.
 
Here you go, just copy and paste:
 
/movies/movie-photos/skyline.2/?photo=c86151b1-8201-4f04-ac5e-c047fa610f43&gallery=23923">©Rogue Pictures
 
WATCHING SKYLINE GAVE ME A BAD CASE OF THE UGLIES!
 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:23pm
The picture above is a surgeon general! "Watching this movie will result in loss of vision, and you really don't want this movie to be the last thing you ever see!"

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 8:33am
Alert!Alert!A sequel is in pre-production...despite the bad box office results.

Please listen to the words of this critic,which I tend to trust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9VYqx4Emc

He thinks it's the 2nd worst movie of the year after http://www.razzies.com/forum/the-last-airbender_forum446.html - .


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 9:31am
HA, told you! Did I call it or what? See, all movies have to do these days is break even and the word sequel is then thrown around! Hell, "Green Lantern" is still in post-production and WB has already greenlit TWO sequels! 

Originally posted by Vits

 Alert!Alert!A sequel is in pre-production...despite the bad box office results.


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Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 11:07am
Er, dude. You better take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMKXi5RarcM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMKXi5RarcM
Originally posted by Vits

Alert!Alert!A sequel is in pre-production...despite the bad box office results.

Please listen to the words of this critic,which I tend to trust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9VYqx4Emc

He thinks it's the 2nd worst movie of the year after http://www.razzies.com/forum/the-last-airbender_forum446.html - - - THE LAST AIRBENDER .


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 1:18pm
He apologized months ago.Now his reviews are original.

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 7:00pm
This is really kind of disappointing because I was actually kind of pulling for this movie. It would have been fun to see a movie made on a shoestring budget that blew away the big budget extravaganzas that end up being  disappointments. I planned on seeing it, but when the early reviews started beating it up, I didn't want to throw my money away. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that I am going to have to end up watching it either on PPV or one of the second run theaters. This one just might end up pulling some nominations.

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 7:20pm
There's no way I could react to the news that there will be a sequel without creating a
 
SPOILER
 
. . . but with that spoiler alert, I must ask, how can there be a sequel to this movie, considering how it ended (and I'm not just talking about using storyboards along with the end credits because they obviously ran out of money to film the final fight scene properly).
 


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 2:35pm
In science fiction, nothing is ever final. I don't know how the movie ended, but in an invasion scenario, another wave of invaders can always arrive. But the reality in ANY alien invasion, should such a thing be possible and actually occur, is that we would be toast in about 10 minutes. Any survivors would find themselves living on reservations and working in casinos inside of a week.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 5:33pm
Yes, because aliens would travel lightyears away just to have us humans run their casinos for them! Oh lord, I think I just gave Hollywood an idea for a new movie!  

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

In science fiction, nothing is ever final. I don't know how the movie ended, but in an invasion scenario, another wave of invaders can always arrive. But the reality in ANY alien invasion, should such a thing be possible and actually occur, is that we would be toast in about 10 minutes. Any survivors would find themselves living on reservations and working in casinos inside of a week.


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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 5:58pm
Well, just a Wink reference to the last time white skinned Europeans "discovered" and ultimately invaded a place where there were already about 10 million people leading happy, productive lives. Ultimately it became our solution, and now we are whining about "illegal" aliens, rather ignoring the fact that there has never been a wave of immigration in our nation's history that has done anything but make us stronger.
 
I remember back in the 70's and 80's when we were in a national uproar about a wave of immigration from Vietnam and other parts of Asia. It was going to bring us economic doom, according to many, particularly on the political right. As it turned out, not only did the first wave turn out to be hard working and industrious, but their offspring hit the books and saved us from becoming a scientific and engineering third world nation.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 6:12pm
Yeah, I understand what you mean, saturnwatcher. But I doubt an actual alien invasion will be the same as with the Europeans and Native American Indians. As even Stephen Hawking noted, aliens will probably be more advanced than us in every way. The chance encounter with them would be more like the way we humans look at "lower" lifeforms, animals. What do we do with animals? We either put them in zoos or circuses, we make them our pets, or we kill them for sport and eat them. I think that description is more what aliens would have in mind for us if they ever made themselves known.

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 6:25pm
This is probably going to lead to a way off topic discussion, but there are a few worthy points of consideration: 1. They might and probably would recognize us as an intelligence but..2. It might not make all that much difference. Obviously there would be an enormous difference is technological capabilities and we can't necessarily assume that they would be guided by "moral" principles that would be of any use or benefit to us. I also suspect that they would be hip to the concept of encryption, so attempting to introduce a virus into their computer system, ala Independence Day would likely be pretty unsuccessful. Yes, if invasion was their intent, we'd be S.O.L. There was a really good Calvin and Hobbes cartoon about that one Sunday back in the early 90's

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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 6:31pm
The link to the above cartoon is here, it is 4th down on the page. Obviously it is really a commentary on the way we are managing our own planet:
 
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/calvinhobbes.htm - http://progressiveboink.com/archive/calvinhobbes.htm


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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 7:42pm
SPOILER
 
Why are we discussing invasions when this movie is about planetary genocide via abduction followed by organ harvesting, as in our brains?
 
Just wondering. . . .
 
 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 8:31pm
To trick you into giving away the plot of the movie. 

Success!  

Originally posted by cvcjr13

SPOILER
 
Why are we discussing invasions when this movie is about planetary genocide via abduction followed by organ harvesting, as in our brains?
 
Just wondering. . . .




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Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:39pm
I have to second Saturn, i also was really hoping that this movie would at least be decent. It had all the makings of a great underdog effort. You had two directors that had a bad experience working inside the Hollywood system (Fox) and wanted to make their own movie by their rules and on their terms. They then put up their money and give the middle finger to Hollywood, that's a story i think we can all respect here.

However then they had to screw it up and make the movie so i wouldn't like it, oh well i can respect their intentions, but its a shame to see that their efforts will likely give them a razzie nod, and rightly so. Looks like I'll have to wait for Battle: LA 

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

This is really kind of disappointing because I was actually kind of pulling for this movie. It would have been fun to see a movie made on a shoestring budget that blew away the big budget extravaganzas that end up being  disappointments. I planned on seeing it, but when the early reviews started beating it up, I didn't want to throw my money away. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that I am going to have to end up watching it either on PPV or one of the second run theaters. This one just might end up pulling some nominations.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:53pm
Yeah, but that's what happens when the movie is written by guys whose motion picture experience is in make-up and visual effects, not writing. It's nice for someone with passion for the movies to go out and give it their best, but if they aren't any good at their craft, bad things will happen. Look no further than Ed Wood for proof of that. The man loved movies and wanted a career in making them, but he didn't have an ounce of talent or know-how to guide him to a long and successful career. Yeah, the filmmakers of this movie might get a sequel or two out of this one movie, but I don't see them getting much respect for the overall quality of their films.  

Originally posted by Mayhem5185

 
I have to second Saturn, i also was really hoping that this movie would at least be decent. It had all the makings of a great underdog effort. You had two directors that had a bad experience working inside the Hollywood system (Fox) and wanted to make their own movie by their rules and on their terms. They then put up their money and give the middle finger to Hollywood, that's a story i think we can all respect here.

However then they had to screw it up and make the movie so i wouldn't like it, oh well i can respect their intentions, but its a shame to see that their efforts will likely give them a razzie nod, and rightly so.


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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 3:00pm
I have to confess a great deal of ignorance with regard to the overall plot, but "planetary genocide" is essentially a form of invasion. There are two possibilities: 1. The aliens come, land, pop the hatch and say, "Take me to your leader, we want to be friends." or 2. They come and attempt to wipe us out (or manipulate our existance) to their benefit -- both of which amount to invasion, more or less.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 5:07pm
That would sum up EVERY alien movie since the early '50s!  



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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 7:35pm
Except that "invasion" implies they are occupying.  As far as I can tell, the aliens just want our brains.  And that MAYBE they don't like our water (signs of Signs, anybody?).
 


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 10:02pm
But cvcjr, it makes perfect logic and common sense for aliens to invade a planet that is 70% covered by their only weakness... 

Oh, no, wait...it doesn't.  


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:04am
I know you don't want me to defend a Shyamalan movie here...and I won't. The flaw of SIGNS was trying too hard to mix horror with science fiction. Sci-Fi kinda requires explanations for certain things, while Horror doesn't. The deal about the aliens wasn't explained because that's how M. Night's idol Hitchcock did it.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 4:33pm
I'm not hating on the movie, and yes I know Hitchcok would use the "McGiffen device" in which certain plot points are not fully explained because the audiences wouldn't care, just as long as it's made to look important. However, there is a world of difference between not fully explaining something and a complete lack in common sense -- like why the hell would aliens invade a planet covered in water when their only weakness is water?!



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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 5:18pm

If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.



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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 6:42pm
Or even Close Encounters of the Third Kind.  

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.



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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 7:08pm
Two words describe this MESSTERPIECE...

BLUE CHEESE!


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 8:10pm
Because it's stinky like old cheese, and most of the time, the screen is lit up in blue light?  




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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 5:03pm
Well, Burn, it DID show up a week before a blue moon Wink


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 5:37pm
Oh my, that joke was so painful, I'm surprised it wasn't in the movie itself!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 7:50pm
District 9 still ranks among the most unpleasant and disappointing experiences I have ever had in a movie theater. The original Day the Earth Stands Still is a classic, Men in Black is over-rated.

 I'm not sure any of these 3 movies would make my top ten in the "alien encounters" genre.  

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

If you wanna see a good movie involving aliens, see District 9, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), or Men in Black.



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 8:13pm
For the child in you, how about "E.T." Or the movie that started the "group-of-people-being-killed-off=one-by-one-by-a-monster" cliche, "Alien."  

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

District 9 still ranks among the most unpleasant and disappointing experiences I have ever had in a movie theater. The original Day the Earth Stands Still is a classic, Men in Black is overrated. I'm not sure any of these movies would make my top ten in the "alien encounters" genre.
 


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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 8:30pm
"The movie that started the "group of people being killed off one by one by a monster" cliche??

Alien was 1979 --  Texas Chain Saw Massacre was 1974.
 
I'm guessing we can go back further.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:00pm
Well, the formula might have been used before, but I give "Alien" credit for cementing it as a successful device that has been copied and pasted ever since for over 30 years.  

Originally posted by cvcjr13

"The movie that started the "group of people being killed off one by one by a monster" cliche??

Alien was 1979 --  Texas Chain Saw Massacre was 1974.
 
I'm guessing we can go back further.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 8:01am
Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts. 
 
After Texas Chain Saw Massacre came out, we suddenly had Black Christmas (1974), then Halloween (1978), and Friday the 13th (1980) owed more to TCSM than Alien.  It was a successful formula starting with TCSM
 
They were so successful (with the sole exception of BC (but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes over the past eight years (including BC).  That leaves Alien the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.
 


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:30am
Originally posted by cvcjr13

Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts. 
 
After Texas Chain Saw Massacre came out, we suddenly had Black Christmas (1974), then Halloween (1978), and Friday the 13th (1980) owed more to TCSM than Alien.  It was a successful formula starting with TCSM
 
They were so successful (with the sole exception of BC (but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes over the past eight years (including BC).  That leaves Alien the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.
But I look at "Alien" as THEE most successful of all those movies, since it was a studio movie that then spawned into other mediums like video games and comics, and those other movies were just indie flicks that got lucky. And I didn't mean just inspiring horror movies, but sci-fi movies as well, like "Pitch Black". "Halloween" I give credit to all the cliches of the purist person lives in the end while all the teens who have sex, drink alcohol and do drugs get killed off and that the murder has to have a certain look and weapon of choice. However, "Alien" is far from unscathed. The third and fourth movies sucked, as did the "Alien vs. Predator" movies, and there's been rumors of a remake in the works.


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 1:01pm
A remake in the works? Forget prequels and sequels, if Hollywood can only catch our attention by announcing remakes and rip-offs, I'd say they're incurable.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 5:29pm
Originally posted by GTAHater767

A remake in the works? Forget prequels and sequels, if Hollywood can only catch our attention by announcing remakes and rip-offs, I'd say they're incurable.
I would just like it for them to leave their best movies alone. Stop milking them once they go wrong. Stop remaking, rebooting, whatever. Once the series is no longer successful, end it!

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Originally posted by cvcjr13

Maybe you'd better change that viewpoint to fit the facts. 
 
After Texas Chain Saw Massacre came out, we suddenly had Black Christmas (1974), then Halloween (1978), and Friday the 13th (1980) owed more to TCSM than Alien.  It was a successful formula starting with TCSM
 
They were so successful (with the sole exception of BC (but that apparently became a cult favorite) that they all had terrible remakes over the past eight years (including BC).  That leaves Alien the only one that was both successful and, so far, unscathed.
But I look at "Alien" as THEE most successful of all those movies, since it was a studio movie that then spawned into other mediums like video games and comics, and those other movies were just indie flicks that got lucky. And I didn't mean just inspiring horror movies, but sci-fi movies as well, like "Pitch Black". "Halloween" I give credit to all the cliches of the purist person lives in the end while all the teens who have sex, drink alcohol and do drugs get killed off and that the murder has to have a certain look and weapon of choice. However, "Alien" is far from unscathed. The third and fourth movies sucked, as did the "Alien vs. Predator" movies, and there's been rumors of a remake in the works.
 
But now you're changing the argument.
 
Face it, TCSM was the first, and it was wildly successful.
 
Halloween was a John Carpenter film.  I wouldn't classify John Carpenter films as lucky indie projects.  And it spawned several sequels.
 
Friday the 13th spawned even more sequels, most of which were successful (no, Friday the 13th VII: Jason Takes Manhattan was not one of the successful ones) and it was a Paramount production, not an indie production.
 
I will allow you this: of all of them Alien was the better film, and its first sequel, Aliens, was even better.
 
But don't go saying Alien started it all, or that it was the only successful one, or that it was the source of all these monsters-kill-everyone-one-by-one movies.  Alien picked up on a well-established theme and did it well.
 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by cvcjr13

But now you're changing the argument.
 
Face it, TCSM was the first, and it was wildly successful.
 
Halloween was a John Carpenter film.  I wouldn't classify John Carpenter films as lucky indie projects.  And it spawned several sequels.
 
Friday the 13th spawned even more sequels, most of which were successful (no, Friday the 13th VII: Jason Takes Manhattan was not one of the successful ones) and it was a Paramount production, not an indie production.
 
I will allow you this: of all of them Alien was the better film, and its first sequel, Aliens, was even better.
 
But don't go saying Alien started it all, or that it was the only successful one, or that it was the source of all these monsters-kill-everyone-one-by-one movies.  Alien picked up on a well-established theme and did it well.
Well, 1. Half of those horror movies, I haven't seen or didn't knwo they started in the 70s. 2. "Alien", for some reason, is the first movie that jumps into people's minds whenever someone mentions "monster killing people off one by one". Granted, it wasn't the first movie to do that theme, but it seems to be the one that sticks with people the most. 


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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 7:03am
Hey, at one time, most people thought the world was flat, too, but it's still round.  Look to the facts, not just to what people may think or feel.
 
Besides, TCSM, Halloween and Friday the 13th were extremely successful and are hardly unknown, even for those who weren't even born when they came out who haven't saw them yet.
 
If I had to pick between the three to suggest one, I'd pick Halloween, hands down.  Carpenter perfected jump scares with that one, and it's a lot better than Rob Zombie's remake.
 
 
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Well, 1. Half of those horror movies, I haven't seen or didn't knwo they started in the 70s. 2. "Alien", for some reason, is the first movie that jumps into people's minds whenever someone mentions "monster killing people off one by one". Granted, it wasn't the first movie to do that theme, but it seems to be the one that sticks with people the most. 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 23 2010 at 11:41am
Originally posted by cvcjr13

Hey, at one time, most people thought the world was flat, too, but it's still round.  Look to the facts, not just to what people may think or feel.
 
Besides, TCSM, Halloween and Friday the 13th were extremely successful and are hardly unknown, even for those who weren't even born when they came out who haven't saw them yet.
 
If I had to pick between the three to suggest one, I'd pick Halloween, hands down.  Carpenter perfected jump scares with that one, and it's a lot better than Rob Zombie's remake.
Okay, man, I get! "Alien" wasn't the first to use that theme! I'm just saying, from MY personal experience, it seems "Alien" is the first movie people think of when that theme is mentioned, even if it wasn't the first to use it. Mind you, I'm also saying "monster". If I were to say "serial killer", "TCSM" or "Halloween" would probably be the first to named instead.


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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 24 2010 at 11:04pm
You've seen supporting actress Brittany Daniels before.  She was in White Chicks and Little Man, playing a very dumb blond white woman.  She's still playing that role in this movie.
 
You may have seen supporting actor David Zayas before.  He played General Garza in The Expendables.
 
You may think you have seen lead actor Eric Balfour before, but no, you haven't, unless you're an avid fan of 24.
 
And you know you haven't seen lead actress Scottie Thompson before, and yes, Scottie is a she.
 
These actors, along with supporting actor Donald Faison and a number of others, find themselves trapped into reciting some of the worst dialog I have witnessed outside of a movie made for the SyFy channel.  The fact that this movie cost $10 million to make and shows it doesn't even come close to being as bad as the mind-numbingly bland dialog. 
 
Mind you, this doesn't excuse Balfour for confusing a difficult bowel movement with showing absolute fear and bewilderment.  Of course, he isn't the first male actor to make this mistake, but you'd think the word would have gotten around by now. . . .
 
I know, I usually start my reviews with the good things in this movie.  Okay, here they are.  Scottie Thompson performed surprisingly well considering the crappy dialog she was handed.  And the scene you see in the trailer where the alien machine smashes the car going out of the garage was pretty cool. 
 
That's it.
 
SPOILER
And I have no problem spoiling what's already spoiled.
 
Probably the only thing that's worse about this movie than the unimaginative dialog and the hokey special effects and production is that Balfour's Jarrod and Thompson's Elaine survive.  That is, if you can follow the little figurines (or are they drawings?) at the end of the movie, and see the alien who took Jarrod's brain and is now possessed by Jarrod carrying Elaine off to. . . where?  They're on an alien craft way on up in the sky.  Going back to the production, it comes to mind that the models behind the end credits were used because they ran out of money.  Why else would they forgo what would have been the best fight scene in the movie?
 
And, oh yes, Balfour's character's name is Jarrod.  That alien who took his brain should feel special.  He received the best.  His brain came from Jarrod's. . . .
 
So, back to the top.  Earth's humans are being harvested by alien spacecraft and machines using a blue light that makes you feel great and strong just before it sucks you up into the spacecraft.  Jarrod got way more than just a little taste of the blue light special, but before he started waltzing down that Kmart aisle to donate his brain to his favorite alien, he was tackled down by Faison's Terry.  This meant that Balfour had to endure the rest of the script.  And Terry was supposed to be Jarrod's friend. . . .
 
The exposure effected Jarrod, to where he is changing into something other than human.  Elaine is exposed later on, too.  However, either she didn't stare at the blue cooker long enough, or else that few-months-old kicker in her tummy took away all of mommy's baby blues. . . .
 
Everyone is expendable, and expended they are, and as a member of the audience, you can't wait for them to be expended.  When Zayas' hotel manager-cum-survivalist says that "this" can't go on forever, my response is, "I sure hope not!"  You'll hope not only is the Earth vanquished and all humanity has their brains popped in and out of aliens like alkaline batteries, but you'll alos hope a black hole opens up and sucks up all the aliens, too.  Skyline is that painfully bad.
 
Skyline is also often slow-paced and dreary.  For a supposed action movie, there were many times I'd actually laugh at how much nothing I was watching.  On top of the slow pacing,  they really didn't give us any likable characters, except Elaine maybe.  Why should we care about any of them?  I mean, they do dumb things like keep looking out windows when they know one look at the blue light makes them Kmart shoppers.  They keep going outside when they know the aliens will nab them, which isn't half as bad as watching them go round and round and up and down the 20 story hotel over and over.
 
Oh, and for HeadRAZZ, I must mention that the movie has a flashback right after the opening sequence.  It only has one, though.
 
Razzie suggestions:  Worst Picture, Worst Director (Greg & Colin Strause, a.k.a. "the Strause brothers" - special effects men who are responsible for Alien vs. Predator: The Requiem), Worst Screenplay, Worst Actor (Eric Balfour), Worst Supporting Actress (Brittany Daniel), Worst Supporting Actor (David Zayas), Worst Ensemble, Worst Couple - Eric Balfour's brain and his new alien body
 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 7:05am
LOL Kmart shopper hypno beam! LOL

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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 7:37am
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

LOL Kmart shopper hypno beam! LOL
 
I. . . MUST. . . BUY. . . SPECIAL. . . I. . . MUST. . . BUY. . . SPECIAL. . . I'LL. . . GIVE. . . MY. . . LEFT. . . BRAIN. . . FOR. . . IT. . . Nuke   Nuke   Nuke   Nuke   Nuke   Nuke   Nuke


Posted By: Razziedent Evil
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 2:35pm
Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by Razziedent Evil

Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...

When critics are saying your movie makes Saturday Night Sy-Fy Channel TV movies or movies from the "mockbuster" studio The Asylum look good by comparison, you have a BIG problem!


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Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Razziedent Evil

Saw this last week. This should SWEEP! Haven't watched a movie this bad in a long time. I mean seriously, it's like they were thinking "which lines will sound the worst on screen?" when writing the script. Yeah the effects were nice and all but the rest? Dear lord...
 
Actually, I talked with a game programmer after we watched the movie, and mentioned that it only cost $10 million.  His response was, "It showed."
 
So, the effects were "nice", but they were very dated.
 


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by cvcjr13

So, the effects were "nice", but they were very dated.

I'm a little more amazed that the movie was greenlit in the first place, rather than the fact it only cost $10 million to make. I mean, it was written by a bunch of guys who ONLY past experience in movies were in SFX and CGI!


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Posted By: TheMovieCritic
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 11:27am
This movie makes Independence Day look like a masterpiece compared to this terrible film and thats saying something.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 8:49am
Originally posted by TheMovieCritic

This movie makes Independence Day look like a masterpiece compared to this terrible film and thats saying something.

Yeah, when you can make the tissue paper thin plot and characters of "ID4" looks good, wow, you did something seriously wrong!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 12:17pm
I just saw it.

You know how you ask a little kid "What do you think would be a good idea for a movie?",and the they say one,and you say "But that's been done before"?That's how basic the plot is.And it's not like INDEPENDENCE DAY.They do copy the design of the UFO's(except they glow blue instead of orange)and it's fight against the army jets,and also a few times where they play patriotic music because they think they won.Is mostly WAR OF THE WORLDS.The characters just hide the whole movie and get attacked by the octopus-looking aliens* every couple of minutes.It also has signs of trying to be like a teen slasher flick(keep in mind these sometimes have college students,and the characters here could be in their early '20s).

Although the beginning introduces us to the characters,it's not enough to know who they really are.Not to mention that it was pointless because the characters weren't developed.

The effects are good enough to prevent this from being among the worst of the year,but that doesn't mean it's good.The dialogue is cheesy and the performances are bad.

Why couldn't they end it when JARROD & ELAINE are sent to the ship while their kissing?All they had to do was show the entire city/country/planet being invaded with a Michael Bay montage(they use one in the movie already)?It would've been tragic and honest,but everything that happens afterwards is unnecessary.Most people think it was a set-up for a sequel.For me,it was a set-up for a saga(at least 4 movies!).

I give it 3/10.

*Why do all movie aliens lately look like that?!


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