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Topic: FORUM DISCUSSION of THE RITE...
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: FORUM DISCUSSION of THE RITE...
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 8:08am
THE DEVIL YOU SAY?  HERE's WHERE to SAY IT!  




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Posted By: #1-Film Freak!!
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 8:27am
I am one of those perverse people who found the original Exorcist hilariously funny...   

So naturally, I can't wait to see what looks like an even more guffaw-ful knock-off of that film! 


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 9:46am

The Mechanic is still on my radar for its director. I hope that on January 28, both this and The Mechanic get negative reviews so you can add a forum for The Mechanic as well. The director of The Mechanic, Simon West, also directed the #11 Worst Film of 2001, Lara Croft Tomb Raider.

By the way, all these exorcism films are getting on my nerves. I still haven't forgotten The Haunting of Molly Hartley (#27 on the Bottom 40 Films of 2008).


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 10:49am
So Material Girls 2: From Prada to Nada isn't on the Razzie radar?


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 11:12am
The problem with From Prada to Nada is its seemingly limited release. As cvcjr13 and I have done several times, you could add a forum for it if it bombs with critics.

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 11:18am
This would simply be the best "bad" movie of the year, if these two had an intense creepy staring contest in it.






Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 11:51am
Maybe, but i'll probably won't go through so much trouble. Let's just say for example that it bombs with critics. Wouldn't that automatically cause a discussion on this forum about the film which would bring it eventually on the Razzie radar. If not, to bad. I atleast mentioned it it once (or twice) to make people kind of aware of it. Which is good enough for me.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 5:14pm
Just to clarify: Which movie do you think will be worse? This or FROM PRADA TO NADA? 

Never underestimate the power of a movie that seems so bad it's good --It may actually be good!  

This seems good to me. I'm not one of those people who think a movie with a great actor can't suck. But I am partial about Anthony Hopkins. Anyway, the trailer seemed pretty chilling to me. I just hope it isn't too similar to http://www.razzies.com/forum/angels-demons_forum355.html - ANGELS & DEMONS . 



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 23 2011 at 8:37pm
I think this is worse, because as HeadRazz said, it's a once-great Oscar winning actor, just going from paycheck to paycheck.  

Originally posted by Vits

Just to clarify: Which movie do you think will be worse? This or FROM PRADA TO NADA?


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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:17am
I actually saw a trailer for 'The Rite' when I went to see '127 Hours', and I sat there after the trailer thinking 'we've got one!'.
 
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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 9:04am
Vits, I think From Prada to Nada looks slightly worse than The Rite but they both look awfull.

I am growing kind of tired with the medias obsesion with spoiled rich girls (everything from My Super Sweet 16 to Paris Hilton). It's NOT fun to look at rich girls getting everything they want it's extremely anoying.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 11:52am
Don't get me wrong, spoiled rich girls being humbled movies need to go away, but Anthony Hopkins, this man has talent and clout in Hollywood, and yet he seems to be like Nic Cage and will accept whatever screenplay is put in front of him. It's just sad to see him going from paycheck to paycheck, not caring about his performances. That is why "The Rite" is much worse.

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:31pm
BHB -- Shouldn't you have said "That is why i feel that "The Rite" will be much worse."?  

Or, after you've seen both, "
That is why i feel that "The Rite" is much worse." 

I prefer having a discussion/conversation with someone where the other person isn't stating his opinion as fact (I didn't do that, so why should you?). Could you please try to not do that, because it kind of feels like you're forcing your opinion on us all.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 12:56pm
But will PRADA be a satire about the subject of spoiled rich girls, or about that subject itself?  

Originally posted by Vheid

I am growing kind of tired with the medias obsesion with spoiled rich girls (everything from My Super Sweet 16 to Paris Hilton). It's NOT fun to look at rich girls getting everything they want it's extremely anoying.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 1:07pm
Vits, It probably will not be. It's being marketed as Jane Austen with a latino-twist. And even if it were a satire, i still have to look at obnoxious spoiled behavior for the entire running of that movie.

Anyway what do YOU think will be worse From Prad to Nada or The Rite, oh and If you think that they both look good, just say it. I won't judge you for it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 3:06pm
Now that I know it won't be a satire I choose FROM PRADA TO NADA.It's very hard for me to get scared but I feel THE RITE will do it.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 6:32pm
Actually, my statement was edited from what it originally was.
 
I seriously don't know why everyone gets so upset by how I word my messages. If you know that it's just my opinion, what does it matter if it comes across like it's a fact. I mean, what person doesn't live their life thinking that their personal opinions are facts? If you don't agree with what I say, then simply state why you disagree and that's all there is to it.  

Originally posted by Vheid

BHB -- Shouldn't you have said "That is why i feel that "The Rite" will be much worse."?  

Or, after you've seen both, "
That is why i feel that "The Rite" is much worse." 

I prefer having a discussion/conversation with someone where the other person isn't stating his opinion as fact (I didn't do that, so why should you?). Could you please try to not do that, because it kind of feels like you're forcing your opinion on us all.


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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 25 2011 at 8:19pm
I too am growing kind of tired with the medias obsesion with spoiled rich girls  Remember these classic quotes? "If you don't RSVP for Hell on Earth 2006, then you're a loooooserrrrr!!!"  "Get out of the way, Hitler! You're ruining my entrance! GAAWWLL!!!" "Acura cake?! But I wanted a Ferrari!" "It's not about them! IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEE!!!!!"
 
Meanwhile, The Rite and The Mechanic are both getting "average" reviews from critics. You could be right about From Prada to Nada.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 3:25am
Burn, No, i wouldn't KNOW that you meant it as an opinion. I would ASUME you meant it as an opinion. The problem with stating opinions as facts is that you leave no room for the other persons arguments. I feel that the discussion then has a much more aggressive tone to it. The difference for me is that when two people are arguing while stating there opininions they have a discussion and when two people are arguing while stating there opinions as facts they have a fight. I personally believe this is because when someone questions something that for instance i see as a fact, he questions (or in my personal believe at that moment "attacks") something that i KNOW, which of course leads to a angrier response by me. When someone questions something i see as an opinion, he questions something i THINK, which makes me able to defend my thoughts in a much calmer and thought out matter. I asume if you approached opinions as opinions you would not only give others more room for a discussion, you would also give yourself more room for a discussion.

So is it really so hard to adjust the wording in your posts?

I am sorry that it took so long to respond. I am not a native English speaker, so i needed some time to formulate my thoughts on the subject.

GTAhater, We won't know for sure untill more reviews show up. As for South Park, i havn't seen the show in a while mainly because i got a bit tired of it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 5:10am
Well sorry, Vheid, if my wording offended you.

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 11:09am
The Rite is at 17% now on RT
The Mechanic at 63% and i guess it will remain somewere near that rating (probably not a razzie contender)
From Prada To Nada has no reviews yet and it probably won't get any untill the weekend starts (meaning not screened for critics)


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 4:44pm
Chances are none of those movies will make it to the final nods for next year.

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 5:18pm
I know that, Burn. But let me have my fun at predicting the worst excuse for a movie this week.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 11:12am
Okay, but "Rite" having its own forum while those other two movies don't is a tell-tale sign it's the clear winner.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 7:11pm

I was disgusted by the grotesque scenes in the trailer and I don't think my eyes can take much more of it.  RT's critical consensus says that the film's weak points are its 'dawdling pace', 'lack of chills', and 'Colin O'Donoghue's tentative performance'.  What's interesting is that six of RT's Top Critics gave it a favorable review.  Maybe they saw something I don't?



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 7:57pm
That is why I think that some critics could very well be paid off by the strudios to give their movies good reviews...  

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

What's interesting is that six of RT's Top Critics gave it a favorable review.  Maybe they see something I don't.


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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: January 27 2011 at 8:20pm
I'm not so sure that's the case.  One of them was Roger Ebert.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 6:03am
Don't know if you care, but I ran a poll about who's the people's favorite critic. These were the results: 
1)Peter Travers 7%  
2)Gene Siskel 7%  
3)Richard Roeper 10% 
4)Roger Ebert 32% 
5)Leonard Maltin 42%  


Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

'Colin O'Donoghue's tentative performance'.

What does that mean?
 



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 8:45am
Just because he's the most famous critic in America, that doesn't mean Ebert is the perfect critic. 

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

I'm not so sure that's the case.  One of them was Roger Ebert.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 8:46am
Really, Leonard Maltin of all people? Well, he does have one of the largest annual catalogs of every movie he has ever seen, so that would be a movie buff's dream.  

Originally posted by Vits

Don't know if you care, but I made a poll about who's the people's favorite critic.These were the results:
1)Peter Travers 7%.
2)Gene Siskel 7%.
3)Richard Roeper 10%.
4)Roger Ebert 32%.
5)Leonard Malkin 42%.



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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 1:11pm
This is being called Anthony Hopkins's 2nd worst movie ever after COMPANY MAN with Chris Rock. 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Apparently they've forgotten A CHANGE OF SEASONS, for which Hopkins was a Worst Actor nominee our berry first year, 1980. Here's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080515/awards -
Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Really, Leonard Maltin of all people? Well, he does have one of the largest annual catalogs of every movie he has ever seen, so that would be a movie buff's dream.
 

I didn't vote, by the way. My favorite critics are Brett Erlich & Ellen Fox. 



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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 4:55pm

Let me guess: Ben Affleck wasn't the first to make a movie called The Company Men, right?



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 5:10pm
I think Vits meant the movie "Bad Company" -- an action movie directed by a certain guy who ruined a movie series about a man who fights crime while dressed as a giant bat ....  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Let me guess: Ben Affleck wasn't the first to make a movie called The Company Men, right?


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: January 28 2011 at 5:30pm
That's the one. Sorry!  



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 8:56am
Originally posted by Vits

MEMENTO:"I have to believe that when I close my eyes, M. Night Shyamalan is still there".
A little off topic, but don't worry, Vits, M. Night Shyamalan is still out there. His talent, on the other hand, has been MIA for quite some time now though.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: April 09 2011 at 5:49pm
R.T. gave this 20%"Anthony Hopkins is as excellent as ever,but he's no match for the film's dawdling pace and lack of chills.Or Colin O'Donoghue's tentative performance in the leading role".

Roger Ebert gave this ***/****:"I found myself drawn in.It is sincere.It is not exploitative;a certain amount of screaming,frothing and thrashing comes with the territory".

Peter Travers gave it */****:"The film goes wrong in every way".




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Posted By: cathy29
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 10:46pm
I was excited to see The Rite, but when finally I was able to watch it, I was really disappointed. Many elements that were supposed to be there were just...missing.  

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 4:32pm
I just saw it and gave it 3/10.The review's coming soon,but in the mean time,my "For your consideration":
-Actor:Yes.But Colin,not Anthony.He's worse.
-Actress:There isn't.
-Supp. Actor:I guess Hopkins if there's no more space.
-Supp. Actress:Not Alice Braga.She improved from last year.I guess Marta Gastini(the italian girl who gets exorcised)who was about on the same level as Sir Tony.
-Ensemble:No.Read all of the above.
-Couple:MICHAEL doesn't spent enough time with ANGELICA to have a relationship relevant to the plot,and he doesn't spent enough time "The power of Christ compells you"-ing with FATHER LUCAS to be considered a duo.
-Director:Yes.
-Screenplay:No.The dialogue was cheesy,but they kept the story interesting despite not being new.
-Remake/Rip-off:No,'cuz...shocker...this isn't a rip-off of THE EXORCIST.
-Worst Excuse For Horror(if you bring it back):Read below.
-Picture:It depends.I haven't seen many 1 star movies this year so I put 2 stars movies in consideration in the mean time.
Originally posted by Vits

It's very hard for me to get scared but I feel THE RITE will do it.
My bad.
Originally posted by Vits

Colin O'Donoghue's tentative performance in the leading role".
I still don't know what that means.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 06 2011 at 2:20pm
I'D RATHER BE POSSESSED BY PAZUZU THAN BE SAVED BY HANNIBAL(**/*****):


Starring:Colin O'Donoghue and Anthony Hopkins as THE RITE performers.


No spoilers here.


So what is the problem with this movie?Not to sound anti-catholic,but I had problems with the idea.So a guy's who's about to become a priest is send to the other side of the world to risk his life only to basically be forced to believe in God?And in the Devil?Assuming that wasn't propaganda,the movie sees a fire and throws a glass of water at it and runs away without checking if the fire is still there.They seemed affraid of going deeper into the conflicts of MICHAEL loosing and re-gaining his faith,so they just threw in situations and expected us to make something out of it.By the end of the movie,it just feels like nothing really happened.

Director Mikael Hafstrom fails to create the right atmosphere,making this movie as scary as the cats surrounding FATHER LUCAS'S house.I do give it points for not being laughable as many expected.I actually laughed more with THE EXORCIST(don't get me wrong,I liked that one because it was 90% scary and 10% funny).

Speaking of the Devil(no pun intended)...Despite how bad this movie is,it's really unfair how it's been called a rip-off of THE EXORCIST just because the story is about an exorcist.Despite the slow pacing,the story is somewhat interesting because they don't try to clone that classic.At one point,FATHER LUCAS actually jokes saying "What did you expect?A turning head vomiting pea soup?".Yes,both movies have similarities but when a premise has been used so many times it starts to become another genre.A lot of alien invasion movies are similar,but is MONSTERS a rip-off of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL,CLOSE ENCOUNTERS,E.T. or INDEPENDENCE DAY?No,it actually rip-offs DISTRICT 9,CLOVERFIELD and STALKER.I've heard people say INDEPENDENCE DAY is ripped-off in SKYLINE which is ripped-off in BATTLE L.A.,when in fact SKYLINE rips-off WAR OF THE WORLDS and BATTLE L.A. rips-off BLACK HAWK DOWN and THE THING RED LINE.Wait...what was I talking about?Oh,yeah.Anyway,how can a movie about an exorcism be made in any other way than a horror movie where priest reads the bible at a possessed person who does supernatural things?And how can a movie about an alien invasion be made in any other way than aliens going to Earth and fight against humans?

Among the many bad things with people,there's one everyone admits with no problem,probably because it's not so serious.I'm talking about the celebrity fixation.If celebrities suffer a tragedy,we usually accompany them.If something simply bad happens to them,we enjoy it.A good example is watching a legendary actor like Hopkins getting close to destroying his career by agreeing to be in movies for the money.His performance,while disappointing,wasn't that bad.It's very strange though.He at least tried,even though he clearly signed on knowing it was going to be bad.And earlier this year,he chose YOU WILL MEET A TALL DARK STRANGER thinking it was going to be good,but he didn't try at all in that movie.

However,if you're an official voter for the Razzies,you should focus on O'Donoghue.He reminded me of 2 performances from this year:Alex Pettyfer in I AM NUMBER 4 and Adam Sandler in JUST GO WITH IT.You see,he's a pretty boy that makes you wonder where are they all coming from(probably from a modeling agency instead of an acting school)that keeps the same face the whole movie except when the script literally tells him to emote,but all we get is a change of face.So yeah,he's a combination of those 2 actors...he's worse than them together!

Alice Braga is very interesting in how she acts.Her sad puppy eyes(which I don't think are intentional)may prevent you from connecting with her.While she improved from her weak performance in REPO MEN months ago,she needs to be more careful when choosing a movie.Another person I have to mention is Marta Gastini,who I felt was on the same level as Hopkins(remember that' not a good thing).


Grades:D- in the U.S. and 3,0 in Chile.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: August 06 2011 at 2:37pm
Vits, you really seem to give almost all movies you review lately, a 3 out of 10-rating... Why's that?

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 06 2011 at 4:42pm
Are you sure?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/user/812172/ratings/?search=&sort=date-desc

The movies I comment here are Razzie contenders,so it's more likely I'll give them bad ratings.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: August 10 2011 at 7:38pm
I've been on a roll today. Well, here's the last review of the day. The first movie that I didn't like starting the review out so I'll be taking off the kiddie gloves.
 
The good:
 
Anthony Hopkins: While some have suggested him for Worst Actor or Supporting Actor, I don't think that he should be considered. Hopkins is credible as a priest who's slowly taken control of. Don't worry, there's someone to Razz in this movie. Also, the scene where he knocks out a little girl was hysterical.
 
Alice Braga: She's OK.
 
The imagery: The imagery of the movie had a lot of good scenes like the black horse with red-eyes.
 
The bad:
 
The scares: This movie is nearly devoid of scares. While not as scare-depleted as The Roommate, it still lacks scares. I don't think that the PG-13 hurt it; supernatrual horror movies can be PG-13 without sucking like the year's best horror movie Insidious shows.
 
The writing and directing: The screenplay is unremarkable and the direction bland. Not much more to say.
 
The ugly:
 
Colin O'Donaghue: I'm convinced that the only reason he was chosen because they thought he might bring in women.
 
The blatant Exorcist ripping-off: It's been established that my favorite horror movie is The Exorcist and I don't take it kindly when it gets ripped-off.
 
Wow, what a forgettable movie. It took a little under a half-hour just to remember what happened. Grade: C+
 
Next up: Battle: Los Angeles!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 11 2011 at 9:29am
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

The imagery of the movie had a lot of good scenes like the black horse with red-eyes.

Me and a lot of people said that.Then we remembered it was meant to be a donkey.You might wanna take it out from the good.


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