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Topic: DISCUSSION of DRIVE and BE ANGRY in 3-D
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: DISCUSSION of DRIVE and BE ANGRY in 3-D
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 3:04pm
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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 10:00pm
This is what I'm talking about when it comes to overpaid celebrities. Cage is in millions of dollars worth of debt because of his wasteful spending over the past few years, so now he has to agree to whatever project comes across his desk. As a result, his career is taking a nose dive, as he stars in one piece of s*** to another. Is this the kind of behavior our society should reward? I think not.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 11:02pm
Dear dear. What with this and 'Season of the Witch', 2011 is not gonna be a good year for Nicolas Cage (I think this year will probably be the 'John Travolta moment' of his career).

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Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 11:51pm
When I saw the first trailer for this on Jack Ass 3D, I thought it was for Ghost Rider 2, then I realized it was about something far worse. In that little trailer all I saw was bad acting, stupid-sounding plot, lame action scenes, and a movie title that's sure to give Cowboys and Aliens a run for their money as the dumbest movie title of the year. And if that's not enough, just look at his picture from the movie ads... he looks like he smells like sh*t!


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 2:20am
Haha... i just KNEW this was going to be terrible!  

The funny part is that this is the second film this year were Nic Cage has to fight "The Devil."

Oh, and HeadRAZZ, are you aware that Uwe Boll is busy making his own In The Name Of The King 2?

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Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 9:36am

I once came across a clip for this movie that looked like it was a scene straight out of an Allstate commercial ( http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi413506073/ - LINK ).  The movie itself looks like 'Ghost Rider' meets 'The Fast and the Furious'.  If it accomplishes anything, it will live up to its name and drive critics angry (or at least insane).



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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 9:44am

Mr. Burn, do you think society should actually punish Nicolas Cage for his behavior of spending beyond his means and desperately taking any movie presented to him? Or should society simply ignore him?



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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 10:59am
Which one? LOL  

Originally posted by Film Reel Redemption

I think this year will probably be the 'John Travolta moment' of his career.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 11:13am
We're all used to seeing Nicolas Cage fail with his movies, but now we have to sit and just watch Billy Burke, William Fichtner and David Morse go through it with him? 
 
If Amber Heard wants to try acting, fine. But I don't really want to see her half-naked for half the movie (I mean, I do, but it is a cheap device).  
 
Co-writer/Director Patrick Lussier has only written teen slasher films so far. And Todd Farmer has mostly just edited movies.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 12:18pm
No, I don't think Cage should be "punished," but I do think his agent needs to do his job better and actually get his client GOOD material worth working on. Cage, on the other hand, needs to have his bank accounts frozen before he goes off buying more islands.  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Mr. Burn, do you think society should actually punish Nicolas Cage for his behavior of spending beyond his means and desperately taking any movie presented to him? Or should society simply ignore him?


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by Vits

If Amber Heard wants to try acting,fine.But I don't want to see her half-naked half the movie.I mean I do,but it's a cheap technique.
She's just one of the many young actresses out there who are hired just for their looks and they are always willing to show some skin, if that's what it will take to become famous. She doesn't want to be an actress, she wants to be a star.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 3:05pm
It's funny that you should say what you did, Burn, because WE reward people who do that!  

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

This is what I'm talking about when it comes to overpaid celebrities. Cage is in millions of dollars worth of debt because of his wasteful spending over the past few years, so now he has to agree to whatever project comes across his desk. As a result, his career is taking a nose dive, as he stars in one piece of s*** to another. Is this the kind of behavior our society should reward? I think not.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 6:06pm
If you consider giving someone a gold spray painted razz-berry that declares them the worst of their profession a "reward", then I guess we do.  

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

It's funny that you should say what you did, Burn, because WE reward people who do that!  


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 7:12pm
Then we'd best make sure someone else doesn't come in and beat him to the punch! By the way, do any of you have anything to say about the 3D elements?

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Posted By: Movie Man
Date Posted: February 18 2011 at 8:38am
I hate to break this negative posting streak, but this movie ACtUALLY might have a chance to be on the "so bad, it's to good" genre.We'll see what the reviews are when this rolls in.


Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: February 18 2011 at 8:46am
I do not think the razzie people believe such a thing exsists

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Worst Supporting Actor: Brendan Fraser/Gimme Shelter and The Nut Job




Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 18 2011 at 11:01am
"So bad, it's good" still means it's bad. Many people thought "Showgirls" was "so bad, it's good", but that didn't stop it from sweeping the 1995 Razzies. 

Originally posted by Movie Man

I hate to break this negative posting streak, but this movie ACtUALLY might have a chance to be on the "so bad, it's to good" genre. We'll see what the reviews are when this rolls in.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 9:44pm
There are now 8 reviews at Rotten Tomatoes, 5 of them positive. We probably should've added a forum for Hall Pass instead.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 10:23am
Now, now, GTAHater, don't pull a MWG. Just because the first 8 reviews are positive, that doesn't mean the next 92 won't be negative.!  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

There are now 8 reviews at Rotten Tomatoes, 5 of them positive. We probably should've added a forum for Hall Pass instead.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: tomsmo35
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 11:17am

I saw on Rotten Tomtoes.com that Drive Angry 3-D got 64% where as Hall Pass is around 25%



Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 12:08pm
So I go to Drive Angry's RT page, and what do I read:

With his recent glut of increasingly low-rent cinematic forays...combined with the blatantly obvious fact that he's only making them to stave off bankruptcy, Nicolas Cage may have subjected himself to a whole new subgenre of filmmaking - Cagesploitation.

The greatest analysis yet of Cage's current career. I am probably going to use the term "Cagesploitation" more often.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 1:00pm
Yeah, as bad as "Drive Angry" looks, "Hall Pass" looks equally stupid, and its title is misleading too (sounds like a teen sex comedy).  

Originally posted by tomsmo35

I saw on Rotten Tomtoes.com that Drive Angry 3-D got 64% where as Hall Pass is around 25%


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 11:29am
Hehe, Cagesploitation! I like that!  

Originally posted by Vheid

So i went to Drive Angry's RT page, and what do i read:

With his recent glut of increasingly low-rent cinematic forays...combined with the blatantly obvious fact that he's only making them to stave off bankruptcy, Nicolas Cage may have subjected himself to a whole new subgenre of filmmaking - Cagesploitation.

The greatest analyses of Cage his current career. I am probably going to use the term "Cagesploitation" more often.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 12:19pm
Come on, RT reviews! Sink lower! Sink lower!!! Who keeps writing all these positive reviews?! :Frustrated:
 
If tomorrow there's no forum for Hall Pass, I'll add one myself. The Farrelly brothers have botched that one up!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 1:01pm
The concensus seems to be that this movie is just "average," and that it delivers the action it promises, but it feels more like a B-movie. 
 
However, the main reason this got a forum was to see if Nicolas Cage would get Razzie-nominated, and considering he has 2 more movies coming out this year, he still could be.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 1:02pm

Both Metacritic and R.T. gave it 50%,and Roger Ebert gave it 2 stars(20%).

Edit:I forgot Ebert uses the 4 stars system.So he also gave it 50%.


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 2:56pm
The #s are low enough for being Razzie worthy, my opinion.  

Originally posted by Vits

Both Metacritic and R.T. gave it 50%,and Roger Ebert gave it 2 stars(20%).


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 2:56pm
Cage could be Razzie-nominated? More like he's a shoo-in!  

Originally posted by Vits

 
However,the main reason this got a forum was to see if Nicolas Cage would get nominated,and considering he has 2 more movies coming out,he could be.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Berrynoia
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 3:03pm
The reviews have dropped down to 49%, which isn't that bad (and considering Cage's "movies since I went bankrupt" record, an improvement).

Still, some of those reviews support the notion that this movie is camp material.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 3:23pm
Just to clarify: When did "camp" became "cult"?  



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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 5:42pm
Usually "camp" becomes "cult" about 5-20 years after a movie has been out on VHS/DVD, and people "discover" its awfulness. For example: "Troll 2."

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 7:15pm
But not in my opinion. We're guaranteed bigger fish to fry than one with middling reviews; I think this would waste a nomination if it weren't bundled with Season of the Witch for Nicolas Cage as Worst Actor.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 7:48pm
Fine, fine, Cage only then...  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

But not in my opinion. We're guaranteed bigger fish to fry than one with middling reviews; I think this would waste a nomination if it weren't bundled with Season of the Witchfor Nicolas Cage as Worst Actor.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 8:33am
I thought that "camp" was bad but "cult" is good. Is that true?

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Posted By: billingsley
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:14pm
Is it okay to name Nick Cage as "Least Bankable Star of 2011"? Season of the Witch was already a flop, and now, according to box office mojo, for Friday the 25th, Drive Angry came in at 9th place with just 1.6 million even with increased 3D revenue.  



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Worst Picture, Director & Script: Twilight
Actor: Nick Cage
Actress: K Stew
S. Actor: Ken Jeong
S. Actress: David Spade
Couple: Sandler and Sandler
Sequel: Hangover II
Ensemble: New Year's Eve cast


Posted By: billingsley
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:16pm
Drive Angry may have had 64% favorable,  but that was when it only had 15 reviews or so. Now it has many more reviews, and is below 50% at R.T.


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Worst Picture, Director & Script: Twilight
Actor: Nick Cage
Actress: K Stew
S. Actor: Ken Jeong
S. Actress: David Spade
Couple: Sandler and Sandler
Sequel: Hangover II
Ensemble: New Year's Eve cast


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:28pm
No, Cage should not yet be named Least Bankable Star of 2011, because he's only been in 2 movies, and the year has just started... 


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 5:22pm
Actually, a "star" is considered "bankable" depending on how much money the said star's movies make in return, NOT how many movies they star in during any one year. There are character actors who appear in 5 to 10 movies in one year, but that doesn't make them :stars" or "bankable."  



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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Freakshowmonkey
Date Posted: February 27 2011 at 7:59am
You know, I looked at the "snarly/gnarly" pic on the main forum link and I thought "Gee...If you pan that picture down a little bit, I bet he's stuffing Steve Buscemi into a wood chipper."
 
Gaear Grimsrud, I'm telling ya!


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 27 2011 at 9:29am
"Camp" usually does mean "bad," but in a cheesy, humorous, so-bad-it's-good kind of way. "Cult" just means that a movie grew a fan base over time...or that one man's trash is another man's treasure.

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 27 2011 at 11:16am
BHB asked if Cage was The Least Bankable Star of 2011. We can't know that until the year is over. As for how "bankable" Cage is in general: 
 
Lifetime Gross Total(48):$2,127,550,496 
Average:$44,323,969 
Opening Gross Average(35):$14,609,674 


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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: February 27 2011 at 11:44am
Exactly. Like last year, between "Shutter Island" and "Inception", Leonardo Decaprio was 2010's most bankable star. I highly doubt Cage's movies will gross enough to call him one of the 10 most bankable stars of 2011.


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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 7:00am
If Nicolas Cage wins next year's Worst Actor Razzie (if he's still fresh on voters' minds and been nominated), what do you think he'll do?
 
Do you think he will:
 
a) Do what Tom Green, Halle Berry, Sandra Bullock and various others have done before him and attend the ceremony to collect his Razzie in person (as well as bring along his Best Actor Oscar from 1995). 
 
or:
 
b) Do what everyone else nominated does and boycote the ceremony.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 11:38am
Film Reel, I am asuming that he won't show up.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 1:15pm
If we only have those choices...Well,we all know his financial situation.He's clearly aware when he makes this movies that they won't be masterpieces.The same can be said about Berry,Bullock and Green.A lot of people make bad movies and still think they're good.But admitting you made a bad movie doesn't mean you'll accept the Razzie.Some people don't accept not because they don't think they deserve it,but because they don't take the Razzies seriously.

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Posted By: BurnHollywoodBurn
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 9:32pm
I'm pretty sure Cage would show up at the awards show, if only so he could take the award and pawn it off or sell it on eBay, because he needs all the money he can get!

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The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 10:37am
I just saw this. It kind of entertained me, even though it was nothing more than an over-the-top ultra-violent exploitation flick...  

    


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Posted By: qiuyinffy
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 7:43pm
I do not think people really believe this kind of looting actually exists...

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Posted By: lecrawford
Date Posted: May 28 2011 at 9:11am
What ever happens to Cage he will do to himself.  He don't need any help from us. :) 


Posted By: RockyBob
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 12:39am
It's really bad that people begin to love actors only after they've played cool roles.
But it doesn't meen that all their next roles will be epic as well. And here is one of the examples Confused


Posted By: tigers1904
Date Posted: June 08 2011 at 4:44am
Drive Angry is a brilliant movie!! 


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 2:00pm
I just saw it,but I won't review it.

It's a bad sign in a movie when Amber Heard*** gives the best performance(jokes aside,she was decent).I know,you all expect to know about Nicolas Cage*****.He's not really bad as he is uninspired.But considering he has 3 other movies this year,and because of his situation he's most likely going to be uninspired in those as well,so I wouldn't be totally against a nomination for him.But he can't be alone.His uninspiration is nothing compared to William Fichtner's* utter lack of desire to be in this movie.Charlotte Ross's** screentime was short,but it was enough to consider her.Despite his annoying as hell(no pun intended)accent,Billy Burke**** wasn't bad.

I got that the movie was made as a grindhouse explotation movie on purpose,which is why I enjoyed the action,but it got tedious after a while.It felt like they just discovered slow motion,so they couldn't come up with something cooler.The effects were bad,and the plot dragged on too much.I mean,why couldn't it last 70 minutes?

I give this 4/10.


For your consideration:
-Supp. Actor*/Actress**...yes.
-Picture,Actress***,Supp. Actor again****,Couple(the 2 leads)...no.
-Actor*****,Director,Screenplay and Misuse Of 3D(I saw it on 2D,but the things going to the screen was annoying)...maybe.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: August 10 2011 at 4:01pm
Time to review this: 
 
The good: 
 
William Fitchner: I know that some people here didn't like his performance, but, for me, he was the highlight of the movie. The scene where he plows done the police barricade was hilarious. 
 
Amber Heard: She gave a credible performance and she's hot as hell! 
 
The sex-scene shoot-out: I know that there's a similar scene in Shoot 'Em Up, but it's well-used here. This is probably the non-William Fitchner highlight. 
 
The bad:
 
Nicolas Cage: While he's better here than he was in Season Of The Witch, that's not saying much.
 
Billy Burke: While he's better here than he was in Red Riding Hood, that's not saying much.
 
The 3D: It's better than Pirates, but not as good as Trannies 3.
 
The ugly:
 
Nicolas Cage's hair: I couldn't think of anything really ugly about the movie, so I chose his hair. If we keep Worst Screen Couple, it should be "Nicolas Cage and EITHER his hellish hair-piece (Drive Angry) OR his trespassing toupee (Trespass) OR his wiccan wig (Season Of The Witch).
 
Not much to say to wrap it up. It's kind of fun to watch. Grade B-.
 
Next up: The Hangover Part II!


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Posted By: Ronken
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 6:42pm
This is what I'm talking about when it comes to overpaid celebrities


Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 5:15pm
I think Cage is a shoe-in for Worst Actor this year. He's just begging for it. The only real contender that can top him is Adam Sandler.

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